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quote: Originally posted by oeillade:
I suspect there is a lot of animosity to our boys and it is not all from Muslims.
"it is being so thick that you think that just belonging to a religion makes you share in the deeds of anyone else who follows that religion ie barking." so in summary, 3 muslim women(assuming british) who took it upon themselves to verbally abuse a soldier going about his business as a welfare officer in britian, in a hospital of all places, about other muslims in a far off land, are, in your own words, barking. I agree. Now these clearly unstable, aggresive and thoughtless women should be permanently banned from the hospital grounds, clearly as a security threat on the basis they are incapable of controlling themselves at the mere sight of this country's military uniform. |
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within the islamic tribal context to dishonour someone is the worst thing you can do and can lead to a 'death sentence'. so as these muslims were trying to 'dishonour' a british soldier what should, by their own code, be their sentence?
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quote: Originally posted by oeillade:
how do you explain that I, a non Muslim
This reminds me of the time you posted all about your hajj experiences on the Black and Asian History (as it was then) whilst denying being a muslim on the news forum! Classic. Ps - feel free to correct any spelling errors for me - I’ll consider you to be my unpaid volunteer/lackey. |
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quote: Originally posted by oeillade: quote: Originally posted by Ungubu:
it is blatantly obvious there are different laws and limits of tolerance for several groups.
in the case of muslims, they dont abide by any law they dont like and they have absolutely no tolerance of anyone outside of their "peaceful religion"
Ok then,sweetie pie, how do you explain that I, a non Muslim felt so strongly against the ludicrously stupid, unprovoked, baseless attack on Iraq that I would heckle US Soldiers......... heckling isn't that terrible an event you know.........it might be rude but there is no breaking of a law per se..... Isuspect the real problem is that these woman were Asian and our brave boy isn't... I suspect there is a lot of animosity to our boys and it is not all from Muslims.
Do you feel really big doing that, do you feel 'proud.' I bet it gives you a warm feeling inside. By the way I am against the War. |
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quote: Originally posted by The Horse: quote: Originally posted by oeillade:
how do you explain that I, a non Muslim
This reminds me of the time you posted all about your hajj experiences on the Black and Asian History (as it was then) whilst denying being a muslim on the news forum! Classic. Ps - feel free to correct any spelling errors for me - I’ll consider you to be my unpaid volunteer/lackey.
I'm terribly sorry Horse but you definitely have the wrong stable mate...... I never ever posted on the Black & Asian History nor have I been on the Hajj |
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quote: Originally posted by pwg: quote: Originally posted by oeillade:
I suspect there is a lot of animosity to our boys and it is not all from Muslims.
"it is being so thick that you think that just belonging to a religion makes you share in the deeds of anyone else who follows that religion ie barking." so in summary, 3 muslim women(assuming british) who took it upon themselves to verbally abuse a soldier going about his business as a welfare officer in britian, in a hospital of all places, about other muslims in a far off land, are, in your own words, barking. I agree. Now these clearly unstable, aggresive and thoughtless women should be permanently banned from the hospital grounds, clearly as a security threat on the basis they are incapable of controlling themselves at the mere sight of this country's military uniform.
Nope. They are not barking....... it would be wrong to think them part of a Terror organisation just for being Muslim.... that was what was being said...that would be barking They were abusing this guy cos they do not agree with what the British Army are doing to fellow humans or fellow Muslims if you wish in their case (!!!!) That is their choice not somebody else determining the link for them against their wishes on no evidence....... so I think your reasoning is faulty........don't make out that I think them barking and then "agree" with me when I don't think that. OK? |
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quote: Originally posted by thecentreground:
Do you feel really big doing that, do you feel 'proud.'
I bet it gives you a warm feeling inside.
By the way I am against the War.
I would not use your pejoratative/sneering terms to describe how I feel or felt about it. I'm glad I did it. (The scene was faintly comical.All these orrid American troops disembarking from an American coach with their kit. Unfortunately the exit was into the middle of the road such was their preparedness.........which even at the time made me think their forward planning might not be what was required for other lands....... |
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quote: Originally posted by oeillade:
They were abusing this guy cos they do not agree with what the British Army are doing to fellow humans or fellow Muslims if you wish in their case (!!!!)
and this CSM working in the UK is responsible for foreign policy and the deployment of troops worldwide is he? makes as much sense having a pop at him, as me nipping down the local mosque and yelling at muslims there about insurgents in iraq. I notice the MP in that area is Nulab, how about voting them out as a demonstration of their disatisfaction about the war instead of verbally abusing soldiers in a hospital. |
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sorry i'm still wondering about link from link the one about girl who was scared her dad would be cross if she dropped make up on the floor but it turned out to be termites |
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quote: and this CSM working in the UK is responsible for foreign policy and the deployment of troops worldwide is he?
Eh? I like the way you make such an absurd statement as if that is what I'm saying. Responsible for world wide deployment of troops.......... responsible for foreign policy!!!!!!!!!! No, it is because he is made of greengages and syrup........ Sorry, wrong thread.... No it is because he is part of the army and an integral part of the army and a fully robotic part of the army that has attacked Iraq/Afghanistan. Insofar as he is that he has a direct part in the much detested attack.Not responsible for it not the guru who designed it, not the guy who planned it, not the master of logistics, not the chief culprit but directly and personally involved in it...... If people did not tell him to his face they did not like what was going on he might be under the illusion it was a very very popular war and they were right behind it......... |
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quote: makes as much sense having a pop at him, as me nipping down the local mosque and yelling at muslims there about insurgents in iraq.
you think these two are equivalent...... those Muslims at the Mosque do not have any necessary link to what is happening in Iraq with any insurgents, do they? No? Good. This CSM has a direct link thru him being in the Army with what is going on in Iraq,doesn't he? Is it just me that sees it like that?  |
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quote: Originally posted by oeillade:
Insofar as he is that he has a direct part in the much detested attack.Not responsible for it not the guru who designed it, not the guy who planned it, not the master of logistics, not the chief culprit but directly and personally involved in it......
If people did not tell him to his face they did not like what was going on he might be under the illusion it was a very very popular war and they were right behind it.........
By that logic, these women had better hope that nobody from their mosque ever does something naughty. They are, after all, part of that organisation. |
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quote: Originally posted by oeillade: quote: and this CSM working in the UK is responsible for foreign policy and the deployment of troops worldwide is he?
Eh? I like the way you make such an absurd statement as if that is what I'm saying. Responsible for world wide deployment of troops.......... responsible for foreign policy!!!!!!!!!! No, it is because he is made of greengages and syrup........ Sorry, wrong thread.... No it is because he is part of the army and an integral part of the army and a fully robotic part of the army that has attacked Iraq/Afghanistan. Insofar as he is that he has a direct part in the much detested attack.Not responsible for it not the guru who designed it, not the guy who planned it, not the master of logistics, not the chief culprit but directly and personally involved in it...... If people did not tell him to his face they did not like what was going on he might be under the illusion it was a very very popular war and they were right behind it.........
You are one seriously deluded individual, do you honestly believe he needed these three harridans mouthing of to tell him that the war is not a popular gig. They were wrong to do so and if they had been given a dry slap across their faces, it would be no more than they deserved. |
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quote: a dry slap across their faces
I think you will find that is breaking the law |
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quote: Originally posted by oeillade: quote: a dry slap across their faces
I think you will find that is breaking the law
I think you'll find I wasn't questioning the legality of the action. |
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quote: Originally posted by pwg:
Then there should be no problem banning these women from the hospital.
I agree. If they were members of staff then they should be suspended for serious professional misconduct. If they were visitors, then the Hospital Manager can simply issue them with the appropriate notices banning them from the premises Don't worry about them. Three morons are simply not important enough. |
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you have confused a foreign policy loyal to a political party with a soldier whose loyalty is to the regiment. they are different. troops are a tool.
so in effect people who shout at soldiers are people who shout at spanners and not the person using them.how mad is that?
but then if ranters were logical they couldn't indulge themselves in their beloved emotionalism?
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quote: Originally posted by oeillade:
Eh? I like the way you make such an absurd statement as if that is what I'm saying.
That is exactly what you are saying. You dont like the goverments policy, so you shout at a soldier, crass stupidity imo. Much like what you showed to the US one. |
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When a dog is beaten with a stick the dog, having the comprehension of a dog, bites at the stick and not the man who is holding that stick.
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quote: Originally posted by oeillade:
I think we should try not to overblow this story.
Oh is this what you think is it, if you had any inckling of what it means to be British you would not make such an outlandish foreign statement. We the British people support our service people through thick and thin, without exception!!!!!  You have been clocked!!  |
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quote: Originally posted by The Horse:
Can anybody imagine the chest beating and wailing if a group of soldiers had surrounded a muslim woman and shouted abuse at her on her way to a mosque ?
Peace and Tolerance?
We are rapidly approaching a time where these people will no longer find their place amongst us! Why? Because the tolerant can not indefintitely tolerate the intollerant. Their time in the West is ticking down and everytime we hear this nonsense the clock goes faster!!! |
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quote: Originally posted by oeillade: quote: Originally posted by Ungubu:
it is blatantly obvious there are different laws and limits of tolerance for several groups.
in the case of muslims, they dont abide by any law they dont like and they have absolutely no tolerance of anyone outside of their "peaceful religion"
Ok then,sweetie pie, how do you explain that I, a non Muslim felt so strongly against the ludicrously stupid, unprovoked, baseless attack on Iraq that I would heckle US Soldiers.........
I can quite easily answer this!! Al-taquiya my friend... You know it, you know who you follow and we also know who you follow, Allah is the game!!! |
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