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Certainly one should get rid of the Thatcherite Brown. However isn't there anyone left wing standing. I would rather vote Brown than Nationalist.
 
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All I'll say is that the SNP have reversed a lot of the damage Thatcher did in Scotland at least, unlike New 'Labour' south of the border - so I know which I'd prefer in charge of my country.
 
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The SNP have managed to turn many things around inside of 1 year. Which leaves Labour trailing a good 10 years behind.

I live in Scotland, and always vote SNP - but unfortunately, I have to sit it out like everyone else, since I don't live in Glasgow, far less Glasgow East.

I'm looking forward to the result. A narrow win for Labour is still great news for the SNP....and obviously a win for SNP is the best thing that could happen all round.
 
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The SNP have managed to turn many things around inside of 1 year. Which leaves Labour trailing a good 10 years behind.

I live in Scotland, and always vote SNP - but unfortunately, I have to sit it out like everyone else, since I don't live in Glasgow, far less Glasgow East.

I'm looking forward to the result. A narrow win for Labour is still great news for the SNP....and obviously a win for SNP is the best thing that could happen all round.
Please enlighten us non Scots as to exactly what they have turned around. As all that I have seen is tinkering at the edges.
 
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Margaret Curran makes me mad with her 'I will do this' and 'I will do that'. What's she been doing for the last decade?! More dodgy stuff has come out about David Marshall's expenses and his daughter's property empire. I expect more will come out once Curran is safely at Westminster. John Mason hasn't been the strongest of candidates, but maybe there's still time for a shock result.
 
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Despite all the Labour propaganda, the SNP have introduced freezing the Council Tax relief for, cutting business rates to boost the economy and jobs, abolishing prescription charges and scrapping the graduate endowment to restore free education in Scotland.

They scrapped the tolls on the Forth and Tay bridges, delivered a new skills strategy and are funding 1000 more police officers in Scotland's communities.

If I think of any more I'll let you know C.L.A.D
 
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Margaret Curran makes me mad with her 'I will do this' and 'I will do that'. What's she been doing for the last decade?! More dodgy stuff has come out about David Marshall's expenses and his daughter's property empire. I expect more will come out once Curran is safely at Westminster. John Mason hasn't been the strongest of candidates, but maybe there's still time for a shock result.


Curran is a nightmare, isn't she? Did you see her on The Politics Show last Sunday, she managed to make herself look even more stupid than she really is - single-handedly!

I wondered why the further revelations about David Marshall's expenses scandal hadn't come out - and then I remembered the Scottish newspapers' fondness for NuLab Sick

I'll be on the edge of my seat tomorrow night, waiting for the count.
 
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Please enlighten us non Scots as to exactly what they have turned around. As all that I have seen is tinkering at the edges.


The biggest difference I see is a government who wants the best for Scotland. They've got rid of a lot of waste, established a concordat with local government, and are attempting to establish consensus politics within Scotland. People I know who work with them find them to be a lot more on the ball and organised than the last administration who were a shambles in comparison.

Sadly Scottish Labour are still controlled by London and are more concerned with keeping Gordon Brown in a job than doing what is best for Scotland. Until that changes, I think they'll remain firmly in opposition, and hopefully will work out their role soon - they've been so used to taking Scotland for granted that I thin they're still in shock over losing last year.
 
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I'll be on the edge of my seat tomorrow night, waiting for the count.


I might stay up to watch Politics Now tomorrow night. Margaret Curran is a harridan and doesn't seem to be thought of very highly in the East End. Her 'I've lived here all my life' when she lives in a huge house in Newlands can't have helped her either.

She's very good at saying what she'll do, but not so good at actually doing it. Suppose that means she'll be right at home in Westminster..
 
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I kinow she hasn't got a hope here, but I think the Conservative candidate has a nice personality and worth putting up where she has more of a chance.
 
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I kinow she hasn't got a hope here, but I think the Conservative candidate has a nice personality and worth putting up where she has more of a chance.


I liked her too, she wasn'r your "run of the mill" Tory Candidate. She didn't stand a chance with that harpie Curran shouting over her on the Politics Show.

Mind you, everyone looks good compared to Margaret Curran.
 
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Despite all the Labour propaganda, the SNP have introduced freezing the Council Tax relief for, cutting business rates to boost the economy and jobs, abolishing prescription charges and scrapping the graduate endowment to restore free education in Scotland.

They scrapped the tolls on the Forth and Tay bridges, delivered a new skills strategy and are funding 1000 more police officers in Scotland's communities.

If I think of any more I'll let you know C.L.A.D
Minor issues. What about deprivation, long term unemployment, child poverty, better medical services? The real substantive issues.
 
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Minor issues. What about deprivation, long term unemployment, child poverty, better medical services? The real substantive issues.[/QUOTE]

They have only been in Government for one year, give them time.

What kind of "better" medical Services would you like to see? the NHS still exists in Scotland, so there are no major changes that can be made there whilst Scotland still has to have leave from Westminster.

But I think that the SNP have made changes for the better, and in a very short time - which is more than Westminster have managed in 11 years, so most of Scotland is happy for now.
 
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And could you explain what you mean by deprivation and Child Poverty, and tell me what the Westminster Government has done to improve those issues in the last 11 years.

Or better still, what a Scottish led Labour Government did?
 
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I'm looking forward to the result. A narrow win for Labour is still great news for the SNP....and obviously a win for SNP is the best thing that could happen all round.


New Middle English Labour and their partners in the Conservative party are very strange when Curran stated that she wants to go to London's parliament, to fight the important issues for Glasgow's east enders.
Issues like law and Order,
Health,
Transport,
Jobs,
Justice,
Drug abuse,
Business and Industry,
Housing,
Education,
Economy,
Sport,
Tourism.

The one flaw in her cunning stunt is that all these issues which matter to the Labour voters are devolved to the Scottish Parliament which she has just quit.
Nose,
Snout,
Trough,
come to mind! Of course if she was to incredibly pose an unloose-able seat, she will be wanting to be chosen to lead the Scottish Labour party in Edinburgh the next day!
 
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All I'll say is that the SNP have reversed a lot of the damage Thatcher did in Scotland at least, unlike New 'Labour' south of the border - so I know which I'd prefer in charge of my country.


Have they ameliorated the defects of Capitalism?
 
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I'm looking forward to the result. A narrow win for Labour is still great news for the SNP....and obviously a win for SNP is the best thing that could happen all round.


New Middle English Labour and their partners in the Conservative party are very strange when Curran stated that she wants to go to London's parliament, to fight the important issues for Glasgow's east enders.
Issues like law and Order,
Health,
Transport,
Jobs,
Justice,
Drug abuse,
Business and Industry,
Housing,
Education,
Economy,
Sport,
Tourism.

The one flaw in her cunning stunt is that all these issues which matter to the Labour voters are devolved to the Scottish Parliament which she has just quit.
Nose,
Snout,
Trough,
come to mind! Of course if she was to incredibly pose an unloose-able seat, she will be wanting to be chosen to lead the Scottish Labour party in Edinburgh the next day!



Is that Margaret Curran's list or Zabbs' list?

If its a politician's list, its noteworthy for ignoring the issue that bothers most people.

The issue that dare not speak its name.

Nothing new here.
 
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New Middle English Labour and their partners in the Conservative party are very strange when Curran stated that she wants to go to London's parliament, to fight the important issues for Glasgow's east enders.
Issues like law and Order,
Health,
Transport,
Jobs,
Justice,
Drug abuse,
Business and Industry,
Housing,
Education,
Economy,
Sport,
Tourism.



No mention of Uncontrolled Immigration, and Economic Migrants? Scots have concerns about it too you know. If the current Scottish Parliament implement a new building programme [250 Council Houses at the moment] I will be writing to Alex Salmond to ask for some guarantees that those jobs will go to UK citizens - and not 80% of all new jobs going to Migrant Workers [as is the reported figure for 2006 - 7]in a Labour Government!
 
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All I'll say is that the SNP have reversed a lot of the damage Thatcher did in Scotland at least, unlike New 'Labour' south of the border - so I know which I'd prefer in charge of my country.


Have they ameliorated the defects of Capitalism?


In one year? Why is everyone so picky about a party that has managed to implement many of it's policies withing one year, and are working towards implementing them all.

Name me one Political Party that has done better after 5 years - or ten??!!

They are making the right decisions for Scotland.
 
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The SNP have managed to turn many things around inside of 1 year. Which leaves Labour trailing a good 10 years behind.

I live in Scotland, and always vote SNP - but unfortunately, I have to sit it out like everyone else, since I don't live in Glasgow, far less Glasgow East.

I'm looking forward to the result. A narrow win for Labour is still great news for the SNP....and obviously a win for SNP is the best thing that could happen all round.


How exactly have the SNP turned things around? Eventually they'll have to live withing their means but then I suppose they can just blame the Westminster parliament for not giving them enough money.
 
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How exactly have the SNP turned things around? Eventually they'll have to live withing their means but then I suppose they can just blame the Westminster parliament for not giving them enough money.


Scotland already lives WELL within its' means.

Unless you can provide me with some evidence to the contrary?
 
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I would encourage everyone everywhere to vote nationalist, it's the only way that you get to control your own country. Let's face it any land that is not your own will not exactly have your best interests at heart.
 
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The SNP have managed to turn many things around inside of 1 year. Which leaves Labour trailing a good 10 years behind.

I live in Scotland, and always vote SNP - but unfortunately, I have to sit it out like everyone else, since I don't live in Glasgow, far less Glasgow East.

I'm looking forward to the result. A narrow win for Labour is still great news for the SNP....and obviously a win for SNP is the best thing that could happen all round.


How exactly have the SNP turned things around? Eventually they'll have to live withing their means but then I suppose they can just blame the Westminster parliament for not giving them enough money.


How very apt you should quote Westminster as though it were some bastion of good housekeeping when it rewards/spend more on the people of London more per capita than any other part of the UK and that includes Scotland. But why let that get in the way of your prejudices eh?
 
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