Menzies Campbell said he'd back Gordon Brown over David Cameron

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If you vote blue you go green. Vote yellow go brown!

Menzies Campbell committed this political suicide at the Lib Dem party conference.

beecher

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Menzies Campbell committed this political suicide at the Lib Dem party conference.

Why is it political suicide? The LibDems work in coalition with labour in Scotland - why is it so strange to think they could do the same in Westminster?

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Originally posted by Daisydukew:
Menzies Campbell committed this political suicide at the Lib Dem party conference.

Why is it political suicide? The LibDems work in coalition with labour in Scotland - why is it so strange to think they could do the same in Westminster?

Agreed.

They are and have been for a long time nearer to Labour anyway.

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Originally posted by Daisydukew:
Menzies Campbell committed this political suicide at the Lib Dem party conference.

Why is it political suicide? The LibDems work in coalition with labour in Scotland - why is it so strange to think they could do the same in Westminster?

England don't want a Labour and Liberal Democrat coaltion.

Agreed.

They are and have been for a long time nearer to Labour anyway.

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England clearly doesn't want Gordon Brown over Cameron at the next election.

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England clearly doesn't want Gordon Brown over Cameron at the next election.

And Scotland and Wales do?

We'll all have a chance to express our opinions when we vote, but I'd say that yet another Labour or Tory government is the last thing any of us need.

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England clearly doesn't want Gordon Brown over Cameron at the next election.

And Scotland and Wales do?

We'll all have a chance to express our opinions when we vote, but I'd say that yet another Labour or Tory government is the last thing any of us need.

The Liberal Democrats would be worse than the two above and you know that.

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The Liberal Democrats would be worse than the two above and you know that.

That is your opinion, but the 6 million people who voted for them at the last general election presumably disagree.

I believe that both Labour and the Tories have become very arrogant and are too embedded in the establishment of this country.

We need a change.

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Ming has played a blinder, he knows that he doesn't have a hope of becoming PM himself, he knows that by associating Brown with the Lib Dems he may have damaged Brown's credibility thus making the Lib Dems in with a shout to be invited to form an alliance with either the Conservatives or Labour. Expect more tricks and mind games from the party with three names.

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The Liberal Democrats would be worse than the two above and you know that.

That is your opinion, but the 6 million people who voted for them at the last general election presumably disagree.

I believe that both Labour and the Tories have become very arrogant and are too embedded in the establishment of this country.

We need a change.

You know most people who voted Liberal don't believe in their policies and voted for them knowing they wouldn't win. You can't believe most people are soft on crime and support the euro.

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You know most people who voted Liberal don't believe in their policies and voted for them knowing they wouldn't win. You can't believe most people are soft on crime and support the euro.

"Most people" didn't vote LibDem. About 22% of those voting did.

I can easily believe 22% of people support the Euro.

As for being soft on crime, Labour's record isn't exactly great either, now is it?

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stanleyb

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Voting for the Libs is a waste of a vote .It`s not even a protest vote .

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Voting for the Libs is a waste of a vote .It`s not even a protest vote .

Are you saying that only votes for Labour or the Tories matter?

In which case we are not a democracy...

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stanleyb

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Voting for the Libs is a waste of a vote .It`s not even a protest vote .

Are you saying that only votes for Labour or the Tories matter?

In which case we are not a democracy...

No , i`m not . Tho it does seem that way .
The Libs are even more wishy-washy than the other 2 wasters .

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So out of interest stanley, who would you vote for?

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weefatshug

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I'm no sure Broon will be keen on a vote of confidence from Ming the Mirthless.Do'nt really see it benefitting him.

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The Lib Dems were in coalition with Labour in Wales from 1999 to 2003. For all the Fib Dems pronouncements on council tax, it was actually the Fib Dems who introduced council tax revaluation in Wales, causing average rises of over 30% in council tax.

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stanleyb

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So out of interest stanley, who would you vote for?

Not sure yet .

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fleeting glimpse

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this is all the fault of reading too many ann of green gables books - honest liberals battling on in the face on anonimity

however we have forgotten the one vital point

lib dem is not liberal

lib dem is de wolf in sheep clothing

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It would be unwise for Ming to rule anything in or out at this stage. I'm disappointed that he's leaning towards Brown, I'd expect him to keep his distance from both main parties.

I'm not sure that a coalition between two Scotsmen would go down at all well in England untless the West Lothian question were addressed first. Of course, if Labour ditch Brown there wouldn't be a problem.

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It would be unwise for Ming to rule anything in or out at this stage. I'm disappointed that he's leaning towards Brown, I'd expect him to keep his distance from both main parties.

I'm not sure that a coalition between two Scotsmen would go down at all well in England untless the West Lothian question were addressed first. Of course, if Labour ditch Brown there wouldn't be a problem.

I think you'll find any coalition between Labour and the Lib Dems would involve more than just "two Scotsmen".

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I think you'll find any coalition between Labour and the Lib Dems would involve more than just "two Scotsmen".

True enough, but the media tend to focus on leaders. In any case, neither man is absolutely certain to be leading his party into the next election.

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True enough, but the media tend to focus on leaders. In any case, neither man is absolutely certain to be leading his party into the next election.

I would probably be better for their parties if they don't because neither of them are good leaders, but I guess we'll have to wait and see.

I'd hate to think a party would be rejected because it had a Scottish leader though.

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Jeremy

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If you vote blue you go green. Vote yellow go brown!

Menzies Campbell committed this political suicide at the Lib Dem party conference.

That's not Political Suicide. Backing Mr "Icing Without a Cake" against a real politician would make Ming look stupid which he isn't.

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TrevGo

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It's always amused me, the animosity the LibDems bring out in many supporters of the old parties.

I didn't hear Campbell express a preference for Broon, but if he did he was daft. I would have thought any LibDem leader would have learnt their lesson rather than cosy up to Labour after the shafting Ashdown received from Bliar.
Campbell is hopeless, anyhow.

Whilst I no longer support them, I did spend many, many years active in the party and still believe they are less dogmatic, more open minded and free thinking than either of the other two dinosaurs.

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