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Incredible or incredulous?
This week Bear Grylls, Born Survivor took some flack from viewers who wonder if it’s really necessary for him to catch and eat live animals such as frogs, scorpions etc to survive, or whether it’s all staged to make good TV. It wouldn’t be the first or last show to set-up scenes to add to the drama.
What shows do you think are too good to be true?
Does it matter, say, if a show has all the appearances of being live, but is really pre-recorded?
In this post-phone scandal TV-world, should everything be whiter than white?
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Is there any truth in the rumour that one of his team dressed up in a grizzly bear costume and appeared outside Grylls's tent to make the mission appear more dangerous?
Originally posted by Fabienne: Is there any truth in the rumour that one of his team dressed up in a grizzly bear costume and appeared outside Grylls's tent to make the mission appear more dangerous?
Following allegations that the show deceived viewers into believing that he was really stranded in the wild when he wasn't, Channel 4 temporarily suspended the show. Discovery aired re-edited episodes designed to remove elements that were considered too planned, with a fresh voiceover, and has continued to broadcast the program.
An adviser to the Man vs. Wild/Born Survivor series had claimed that Grylls had been staying at a California motel between filming. Similarly, it was alleged that Grylls had stayed at a crew base-camp in the Costa Rican jungle while giving viewers the impression that he was alone. These allegations were confirmed by Channel 4, who argued that it wasn't a documentary, but a 'how-to' guide to survival, implying that 'faked' or re-shot scenes were acceptable in that context
Originally posted by Fabienne: Is there any truth in the rumour that one of his team dressed up in a grizzly bear costume and appeared outside Grylls's tent to make the mission appear more dangerous?
Yeah, the game was up when the bloke in the costume had a fight with someone over a tin of John West Salmon
I have become so cynical I think most of this type of show is staged!
It doesn't stop shows being entertaining (look at Top gear, where some features are certainly staged, but it remains excellent entertainment) but the TV companies should be up front about it.
I don't have a problem where staging is necessary - as long as we know what we're looking at is an artificial reconstruction.
BBC2's excellent Race To The Pole (in which a British team raced Norwegians in a reconstruction of the Scott v Amundsen race) is a case in point.
It was made clear they were actually in Greenland not Antarctica and that there was instant safety back-up if things got too dangerous. In fact, the producers pulled the Brits out of there when conditions started affecting them badly.
But pretending to "survive" - then going back to the motel at the end of the day - doesn't cut it. If you want real lessons in survival, watch Ray Mears. If you want fake, cheap thrills, watch Bear Grylls.
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that biting the head off the frog was disgusting. unnecessary and shouldn't be allowed for the sake of a pointless telly show, that i for one wont ever watch again
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Originally posted by Gypsie: that biting the head off the frog was disgusting. unnecessary and shouldn't be allowed for the sake of a pointless telly show, that i for one wont ever watch again
I don't watch I'm A Celebrity for the same reasons. In a real life and death situation, most of us might eat things we normally wouldn't. But we all know they aren't really having to survive anything - so why the unnecessary cruelty to all the critters they eat alive in the trials?
As someone once said: "If you've got nothing nice to say about anybody - come and sit by me."
Originally posted by Gypsie: that biting the head off the frog was disgusting. unnecessary and shouldn't be allowed for the sake of a pointless telly show, that i for one wont ever watch again
I don't watch I'm A Celebrity for the same reasons. In a real life and death situation, most of us might eat things we normally wouldn't. But we all know they aren't really having to survive anything - so why the unnecessary cruelty to all the critters they eat alive in the trials?
Would you know what to eat or what you could eat if it came down to a survival situation or where to look for said food and drink and what you needed to do to make the most of your meal ??
Originally posted by Gypsie: that biting the head off the frog was disgusting. unnecessary and shouldn't be allowed for the sake of a pointless telly show, that i for one wont ever watch again
I don't watch I'm A Celebrity for the same reasons. In a real life and death situation, most of us might eat things we normally wouldn't. But we all know they aren't really having to survive anything - so why the unnecessary cruelty to all the critters they eat alive in the trials?
Would you know what to eat or what you could eat if it came down to a survival situation or where to look for said food and drink and what you needed to do to make the most of your meal ??
Possibly not. But if it moved and I could catch it, I'd probably eat it. I'd kill it first though.
As someone once said: "If you've got nothing nice to say about anybody - come and sit by me."
Originally posted by Gypsie: that biting the head off the frog was disgusting. unnecessary and shouldn't be allowed for the sake of a pointless telly show, that i for one wont ever watch again
I don't watch I'm A Celebrity for the same reasons. In a real life and death situation, most of us might eat things we normally wouldn't. But we all know they aren't really having to survive anything - so why the unnecessary cruelty to all the critters they eat alive in the trials?
Would you know what to eat or what you could eat if it came down to a survival situation or where to look for said food and drink and what you needed to do to make the most of your meal ??
Possibly not. But if it moved and I could catch it, I'd probably eat it. I'd kill it first though.
Ah then you could lose part of the supplements that meal was going to give you depending on how you killed it.
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