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that is so inaccurate that it is laughable?

If you put the postcode of our house into upmystreet it brings up a profile of the area. Needless to say that the profile it suggests is extremely inaccurate - it suggests that our village is northern, poor, rough and hardly anyone works with a benefits culture. For a village in the commuter belt of the SE where there are no houses valued under 150K (and that is our one, currently the only 2 bed on the market in said village and the cheapest property by nearly 30K!) with a very very low unemployed rating, lots of business owners, commuters to london, ashford, brighton and tunbridge wells etc. and professionals. Well - I think you can see what I'm driving at.

Anyway - although we have had no shortage of viewings on the house, and several 2nd viewings, since xmas it hasn't moved to offer or sold... and on 3 occasions now 2nd viewers have told the agent that it is the up..... info that has put them off even though their own investigations don't bear that out..

Anyway - is there anything we can do? I supose not, sigh. I'm sure that there are other reasons it hasn't sold, the agent we are with potentially being one as they aren't exactly driving it anymore (sigh)

Thoughts?
 
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Purplefairy, I think a lot of people find this happens.

Just out of curiosity I checked our house's postcode on one of those sites that gives you flood information. As I thought, Warning!! this is on a flood plain!!!

no we aren't. we are half-way up a steep hill about 100 feet above the flood plain in the narrow river valley. but anyone checking up for themselves without visiting would never know this.


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Most people buy in an area that they already know to a lesser or greater extent so I find it hard to believe that the data on the website has deterred everyone. I think you need a fresh outlook - and preferably a new agent - to reinvigorate your sales campaign! Don't be despondant. Just one question though, when you say that the site says your village is 'northern' do you mean that it is implying that you are somewhere in the north of the country and they've completely muddled your south eastern postcode up with somewhere entirely unrelated?
 
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Oopss - no it says that the area type is northern. I think what they are implying by that is terraced housing, mining village etc. Gritty, grey, not much green. Urban is another word used in the descriptor.

I'm kind of stuck really - the site is covered in 'this is a generalisation' type comments in very very tiny writing. Guess I'm just pissed off that my house is still on the ruddy market. (this will make nearly 2 years in total as we had a sale fall through christmas 04 after which we took the house off the market for 6 months, and then another sale fail christmas 05 when our buyer was made redundant). As houses go this village takes a while to sell anyway as we are only 5 mins drive from a town (cross country) where housing stock is a *lot* cheaper. But this is a pretty rural village with a real mix of housing, a decent primary school, a vineyard, collection of shops etc. Actually a really nice place to live, but most people moving in are not local to start with... which is what seems to cause the issues when property sites start using very generalised 'marketing info'... Its just that we are really the only 2 bed on the market here atm, so in theory we should be home and dry... I did say in theory!!

Oh - and according to them we are on a flood plain as well... There has never been a flood in this area since records began the flood plain is down the valley 6 miles away and a few hundred foot.


Beginning to think that a change of agent is overdue *again* (but we are running out of options locally, lol, having changed each time things have gone uck!)... Which I think brings me to the other question I need to ask for which another thread is probably in order. At least I have a sense of humour about this or I'd be crying by now... unlike DP who is exhausted from a commute into deep north london everyday.
 
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i find it incredibly hard to believe that 3 people have commented on this websites findings. I find it easy to belive that the EA is talking from the wrong hole
 
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The trouble with generalisations, as a general rule, is just that. They are generalisations and really do need to be taken with a pinch of salt.

Where are you?
 
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Some of the comments they "generalise" about in the area I live;

These people are likely to take one main holiday a year, probably a packaged holiday to the Mediterranean or a camping or caravanning holiday in the UK.

Cheeky Buggers!

Most households have access to a car but usually a smaller, inexpensive model, possibly bought second hand.

Cheeky Buggers!

Formal educational qualifications are below average.

Cheeky Buggers!
 
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Originally posted by stateofplay:
Some of the comments they "generalise" about in the area I live;

These people are likely to take one main holiday a year, probably a packaged holiday to the Mediterranean or a camping or caravanning holiday in the UK.

Cheeky Buggers!

Most households have access to a car but usually a smaller, inexpensive model, possibly bought second hand.

Cheeky Buggers!

Formal educational qualifications are below average.

Cheeky Buggers!


These 'generalisations' must be right, look at my postcode's:

family income: high
interest in current affairs: very high
educated - to degree: very high
have satellite TV: low

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Originally posted by stateofplay:
Some of the comments they "generalise" about in the area I live;

These people are likely to take one main holiday a year, probably a packaged holiday to the Mediterranean or a camping or caravanning holiday in the UK.

Cheeky Buggers!

Most households have access to a car but usually a smaller, inexpensive model, possibly bought second hand.

Cheeky Buggers!

Formal educational qualifications are below average.

Cheeky Buggers!


LOL
 
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I USED TO LIVE Frown Eek Frown-

Often, many of the people who live in this sort of postcode will be low income larger families living in semis. These are known as type 44 in the ACORN classification and 3.04% of the UK’s population live in this type.

The Black Country and South Yorkshire are the main places for these communities, although they generally crop up in most urban areas. Towns such as Doncaster, Barnsley, Dudley, Wrexham, and Ballymoney are typical. Here is an overview of the likely preferences and features of your neighbourhood:

Family income Low
Interest in current affairs Low
Housing - with mortgage Medium
Educated - to degree Very low
Couples with children Medium
Have satellite TV Medium

These families tend to live in reasonably large council properties.

Incomes are well below average with nearly a third of families earning less than £10,000. Unemployment is higher than average. Work is typically routine, in a factory or some other manual occupation. Jobs reflect the general lack of educational qualifications.

Households tend to be families with a number of school age children. Over 10% are single parent families. Home to these families will often be a three bedroom semi-detached property rented from the local council or housing association.

The lottery, football pools and bingo may offer the hope of wealth. Since money is tight, the payment facilities offered by catalogue shopping are an attraction in these areas. People with a car will own a low value second hand vehicle.

Shopping may be done in Morrisons or Kwik Save, and holidays may well be to a caravan park or a camp site.

Few leisure activities seem affordable. Angling is popular and people will spend time listening to music or watching television. The newspaper is generally a tabloid.



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Often, many of the people who live in this sort of postcode will be well-off working families with mortgages. These are known as type 10 in the ACORN classification and 2.26% of the UK’s population live in this type.

Given the commuter nature of this type, it is often found in satellite towns around major conurbations, such as Northampton, Milton Keynes, Reading, Swindon and Crewe. Here is an overview of the likely preferences and features of your neighbourhood:

Family income High
Interest in current affairs Low
Housing - with mortgage Medium
Educated - to degree High
Couples with children Very high
Have satellite TV Very high

These are neighbourhoods of young well-off commuter families, with many pre-school and primary school children.

These families often live in relatively large detached houses and have a long time left on their mortgage. However they have good incomes, and feel able to afford such long term commitments. These individuals are likely to be in their 30s, and tend to be professionals and managers with company pensions and company health care. They drive to work in company cars.

These families are financially aware. Where possible they will have regular savings plans and invest in stocks and shares. A child savings plan may cater for the children’s future. The high level of remortaging may indicate confidence in their ability to repay high levels of borrowing. They have credit cards with high credit limits, but their spending is not high.

The Internet is a popular channel for financial services, with e-banking fairly common with these households. On-line activity is generally high whether shopping, booking leisure activity, playing games or the children’s education.

These are young active people, taking part in aerobics, playing golf, rugby and going skiing. For entertainment they own a DVD player, subscribe to satellite TV and go to the cinema.



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My fiance and I are moving to a postcode area which says "Educated - to degree Very low" - it's 5 minutes down the road from a university, so it must be all those undergraduate students dragging the numbers down! Anyway, we've both got Masters degree, so maybe we'll bump up the statistics a bit... Razz

It also says our future neighbours shop at Morrisons and Kwik Save - they must travel a long way to do that, cos there aren't either of those shops within 25 miles...
 
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I wish I had heard about it from the Estate agent - no, we've been told about it by people who have viewed :-(

Yep that's the one 44.... Well there is a Morrisons in the nearest town but there is a sainsburys rather closer and half the street seems to have recently switched from them and tescos home delivery to Ocado now they deliver here, lol. So although 'our road' is a mix of private and social housing (rented and keyworker part ownership) I don't think that the income averages are in any way accurate.

I did a bit more digging today and it seems that the nearest 'suburb' of said local town (3 miles accross the 'moor' as the land is known locally) is also given that category. Given that to get there directly you'd have a windy, narrow roaded and slightly precarious and long winded journey and its the opposite direction to the shops...

Ah well. Going to post my other question now :-)
 
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This is where I live:

Often, many of the people who live in this sort of postcode will be young, living in converted flats, in multi-ethnic areas. These are known as type 18 in the ACORN classification and 1.14% of the UK’s population live in this type.

Neighbourhoods fitting this profile are almost exclusively a London phenomenon, with high concentrations in most inner and outer London boroughs. Here is an overview of the likely preferences and features of your neighbourhood:
Family income High
Interest in current affairs Very high
Housing - with mortgage Low
Educated - to degree Very high
Couples with children Low
Have satellite TV Low

These young multi-ethnic communities are primarily found in London, with many living in houses which have been converted into flats.

Most people are in their twenties and thirties and there are only a few, very young children. The population is diverse. On the whole they are well qualified. Many are in professional and managerial jobs, with good incomes. Others have lower level qualifications and are likely to be office and clerical staff. There are also a significant number of students.

The majority of people are renting their homes privately. However, there is also a high proportion living in Housing Association property.

Public transport is by far the most popular method of travelling to work or study. Residents are also happy to walk, and only a minority see the need for a car. At this stage in their lives this type are not really thinking about investing their money. They will spend their spare money on travel, and will take long haul trips as well as European holidays.

They like exercise and sport, as well as more contemplative pursuits such as the theatre, the arts and self-improvement classes. They are also very interested in current affairs and read The Guardian and Independent as they commute to work.

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Certain parts of this are true. Most of the houses are privately rented, the area is multi-ethnic, public transport is popular, a fair proportion of the houses have been converted into flats and it's in London.

But this makes it sound like a trendy London area, filled with 20somethings who are yet to settle down and will eventually move to a up and coming area in order to buy.

The reality is that the majority of people who rent are first generation immigrants, often with poor English and who don't work or do menial jobs. Most of these people have children and the street is heaving with kids playing football and riding their bikes.

There is certainly an influx of Guardian reading, degree educated, managerial types. But this is the minority at present and we only live here because the property is cheap and the transport is great. And the majority of our money goes on the house, not holidays.

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These profiles seem to me to be very flimsy in terms of reality. They get a few facts, which are about completely different types of people in an area and meld them into one unrealistic profile. And then add a couple of fabrications for good measure.

The problem is that while my profile shows my area in a more positive lights than it is, yours does the opposite. And it makes me wonder if there isn't some hidden agenda?
 
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