I take it your all lost for words

Sarah, I can't see past your hair..........

The Salisbury house, I didn't like the way the kitchen was straight off the back of the living area like that, although nobody commented on it when they were viewing. Made it look like a bedsit downstairs.

The way the women said at the end ' well it is Salisbury and no one got any taste!
Love it!

Oh I know. I never cease to be amazed that these intelligent people with good careers can't see that they are not doing a house up to their taste, to make it different, when a basic renovation job without the ripping down of walls and moving bathrooms left, right and centre isn't the best route to profit.

I love Sarah's face at times, she's so tactful and subtle, yet sometimes you see just a glimmer of frustration and a definite forced action to stop herself from raising her eyebrows. Lol.

Well they did say partners, I presumed that meant life partners.

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Originally posted by RagleGumm:
That salisbury couple... they weren't a couple were they?

I kept saying that! They were sharing a bed tho! Why are the women on these programmes so stupid? If Beeny offered me advice on property development I'd listen.

I think they were....how do they keep finding these people who want to make a house look 'different'...and believe that buyers won't even need to go upstairs before buying it. I thought the bathroom looked a bit cramped to say the least. And the final finish on that bungalow....I'm surprised that the Beeny doesn't just shake them. And did anyone else spot the patient expression of the Salisbury woman as Sarah gave her really good advice - she might as well have said 'La,la,la I'm not listening'. Glass wall in a bathroom?

Come on guys - it's a scripted TV show everyone knows that. It's a sweetheart deal. They act stupid and channel 4 pays for the renovation work.



lee

are you sure they're acting.....

hi guys i saw about the first 20 mins and fell asleep what was the outcome of the salisbury house did she get her "loft room" and did the house sell??

A friend of mine's son is a sound engineer.

The way these shows work (he worked on Groundforce) is that the technical crew set up lights and mikes and spend the day doing staged 'takes'. Most of the work is done by a gang of contractors.

PL will be the same. Have you noticed that when there is a seriously stupid moment that SB is on hand with a lighting crew, camera crew and sound crew just at that critical moment? It doesn't happen that way in real life does it? It is staged by a production company and sold to Chamnnel 4 as 'Reality TV'. It's about as far away from reality as you can get without drugs!

It makes Fantasy Island look like a documentary!


lee

`act stupid`????????????
patpot.

It was very convenient of her to have just happened to have brought a bath along.

Smudger - she got a half assed loft room but they decided to move in and not sell.

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Originally posted by lee33:
Come on guys - it's a scripted TV show everyone knows that. It's a sweetheart deal. They act stupid and channel 4 pays for the renovation work.
Lee

And that assertion appears merely to be based on the experience of a friend's son who works on a completely different programme

There's a first hand account of appearing on the programme in the first PL magazine, if anyone's interested (it's out now).

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Originally posted by lee33:
A friend of mine's son is a sound engineer.

The way these shows work (he worked on Groundforce)

Oh well, that's that then!!! No need for any other threads about PL - Lee must be right mustn't he peeps!!

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Originally posted by Gulp:

quote:

Originally posted by lee33:
Come on guys - it's a scripted TV show everyone knows that. It's a sweetheart deal. They act stupid and channel 4 pays for the renovation work.
Lee

And that assertion appears merely to be based on the experience of a friend's son who works on a completely different programme

There's a first hand account of appearing on the programme in the first PL magazine, if anyone's interested (it's out now).

So you are basing this on what is said in a magazine under the same control as the programme? I see.

Don't you think it's odd that disaster only happens when the crew are on-hand and already filming? What on earth were they filming before disaster struck?

None of the builders ever swear or fart.

No-one ever listens to SB, they always do it 'their way' and it's always a disaster.

Let's face it, if the programme was filled with farting builkders cursing but getting the job done in a remarkably boring way - it wouldn't have the same appeal would it?

They could have their own magazine.

I'm sure we could get a talented builder to explain the techniques of farting and burping in harmony.

lee

One day there'll be an episode where people spend fifty quid on Vim and white emulsion and trade barbed and waspish comments about Sarah's hair and waistline 'Oh deary, I thought the horizontal hold had gone on my telly and what are those chavlites in your hair' while making a whole pot of money. But no time soon, one suspects.

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Don't you think it's odd that disaster only happens when the crew are on-hand and already filming? What on earth were they filming before disaster struck?lee

Or....here's a radical idea to consider....maybe over the course of a development lasting several weeks/months, they actually film more than 30 minutes worth and then edit out the boring bits and the builders farting?

I can go along with a lot of the staging, but it won't be the same as Groundforce. For one, Groundforce is work being carried out by the team they have. PL is work being carried out by the amateur developers. I don't think contractors would be used in this instance. I reckon it's half of one and half a dozen of the other. I also think that the footage of disasters being convenient is probably down to the producers specifying to the 'developers' that if anything untoward, or disastrous happens that they stop the work and call the crew in - not that they are on standby, just that they are probably supposed to come in at X stage of the proceedings, but work stops if something happens so that they can film it.

I reckon they get compensation for any further days/weeks delay this causes in their time limit and that we are told the time it took without the stoppages.

Why are people so cynical?

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Originally posted by Gulp:

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Don't you think it's odd that disaster only happens when the crew are on-hand and already filming? What on earth were they filming before disaster struck?lee

Or....here's a radical idea to consider....maybe over the course of a development lasting several weeks/months, they actually film more than 30 minutes worth and then edit out the boring bits and the builders farting?

I've worked on sites for decades and have yet to see anything worth filming. The chances of getting all these 'events' on PL is quite remote unless they were staged.

Let's face it. It isn't a documentary about a building company. It is a product of a television production company. The programme is the product - not the building. The producers want a programme that people will talk about.
What's this production company's motto?


Never let the truth stand in the way of a good story.


lee

Exactly, it's not about a building company. It's about amateurs who quite often think they don't need the services of building professionals. There are bound to be more things going on worth filming than if there were a bunch of builders who renovate houses every day of the week.

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Originally posted by queenstomper:
Exactly, it's not about a building company. It's about amateurs who quite often think they don't need the services of building professionals. There are bound to be more things going on worth filming than if there were a bunch of builders who renovate houses every day of the week.

In every episode I've seen it has been a builder contracted to do the work. Rank amateurs just playing around would soon be killed. Building is a dangerous business.


lee

The sensible ones contract builders for major works - others bring them in when things start to go wrong.

Like I said - I don't think it's totally 'reality' but then I don't think it's totally staged either.

I'm not saying the people are actors, but I'm not conviced that they are 'legit' either. I think there's a sweetheart deal in there somewhere that suits both sides. Just what that deal is I don't really know. Maybe it varies.


lee