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I watched about 2 minutes of the show and I am not quite sure if I heard something right.

Kirsty and female "snagging" a new development house before exchange.

Female "Oh it's OK cracks don't bother me"

Kirsty "A girl after my own heart, we will check that it is supported correctly but the cracks are OK"


WHAT.

On a new development I would not be accepting cracks on the walls. Why are they are there? and why have they not been skimmed?

A. Did I mis-hear this
B. If not, what the hell kind of advice was that
 
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Didn't watch it for the first time ever!
Same old format was it? Tired program?
Better to watch "Save Lullingstone Castle" on beeb 2....far more entertaining.
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It was a small area of cracking at ceiling/joist and really wasn't anything worth worrying about.

It was a good prog melboy, only half an hour show and back pretty much to old format and no messing about with second properties and pulling out at the last minute. The developed property was actually dropped in price by £50K from original then they got him down another £12K.


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Didn't see the programme, but you can expect drying out cracks on new developments for at least 2-3 years following construction.

Even if these were skimmed new ones would appear.

House of Tiny Tearaways for us followed by 'It's not Easy Being Green' which is slowly losing it's charm. Watching a family chucking mud around as they dig a trench for a water pipe isn't really what I thought it was about - the Beeb have missed a real opportunity. The Whole House Ventilation System they are using to heat the house looks a real alternative to expensive central heating, but rather than explain how it works properly all they do is slag off how cold it is, then say half the windows in the house are still missing!
 
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Here it is, looks nothing from the outside mind you.

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Originally posted by queenstomper:
It was a small area of cracking at ceiling/joist and really wasn't anything worth worrying about.

It was a good prog melboy, only half an hour show and back pretty much to old format and no messing about with second properties and pulling out at the last minute. The developed property was actually dropped in price by £50K from original then they got him down another £12K.


I'll try and see it on More 4, E4 or whenever it is repeated this week.
I was waiting to see if anyone was going to put a thread up with comments on how good or bad it was.
Regarding cracks in the plasterwork in the ceiling......shouldn't really happen if the Plasterer has used "Scrim-Tape" on the plasterboard joins.
The only possible time you would get severe cracking is if the wood has been exposed to the elements during construction and is in the process of drying out.
 
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I adored the show, having been to school in Sutton Coldfield but not living there and having been subjected to the appalling snobbery of teachers and pupils alike, it was very satisfying to see the ex-Royal town being referred to as the "good-value" option with cheap housing compared to "up-market" Harbourne - I could almost hear the gnashing of teeth from Sutton Coldfield residents! HA!


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I've heard similar snobbery from Solihull. One minute it's 'we don't live in Birmingham we live in Solihull', but criticise anything Brummy and they're from Birmingham again!

Melboy I wasn't paying huge attention to the location of the cracks, but it wasn't like a crack down a wall or anything.


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The only comments I remember form the show were she likes length over width and her and kirsty had great fun discussing cracks. Are you saying there was more discussion in the programme, because that's all I heard Wink
 
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The only comments I remember form the show were she likes length over width and her and kirsty had great fun discussing cracks. Are you saying there was more discussion in the programme, because that's all I heard Wink


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It was a small area of cracking at ceiling/joist and really wasn't anything worth worrying about.

It was a good prog melboy, only half an hour show and back pretty much to old format and no messing about with second properties and pulling out at the last minute. The developed property was actually dropped in price by £50K from original then they got him down another £12K.


But surely if you have a seller who has already dropped £50,000 on asking and you get him down another £12,000 they are desperate. If they are desperate they will remedy cracks in the plaster.

A job for the vendor to do before exchange not the buyer to do after they have moved in as far as I am concerned.
 
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I expect the developer did sort that out before exchange. It really wasn't that big a deal to go into it any further than they did.


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I expect the developer did sort that out before exchange. It really wasn't that big a deal to go into it any further than they did.


Surely though "The Show" would be better if "The Experts" had advised their client/contributer that they should advise the vendors that they would like that problem to be corrected.

Only a small problem, Yes. If they are not working for the buyer, who are K&P representing?

Do you think that the developer would have refused to correct the problem at the risk of losing the sale?

When buying anything that is either a new build or a new development the buyer can insist on everything being close to perfect, most other things are then covered by warranties.

When people buy used cars they like asking dents and scratches they like them to be "pulled out" of "buffed" and the car to look as close to being new as possible, why should people accept cracks in plaster work when buying a house?
 
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In all fairness you didn't watch the programme bar this sentence. It was a small problem, and it was given a short amount of airtime, but the cracking was not of sufficient interest to anyone to warrant any more airtime saying how they'd get it sorted out. Bear in mind that it's gone back to half an hour programme. I imagine with these developments that there are more than a few snagged areas that are then given to the vendor/developer to put right, doesn't mean it needs them all to be mentioned in the programme.

I suspect this bit was mentioned purely because it led to the buyer and Kirsty making jokes about 'cracks'.


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I suspect this bit was mentioned purely because it led to the buyer and Kirsty making jokes about 'cracks'.


Fair point.

I just wish that there was some substance to the show. Wouldn't it have been great to show this problem on a new development and explain how a buyer can get it sorted at the vendors expense. Maybe then viewerd would not be turning off in their droves.

I have spoken to a number of people who work in property who refuse to watch it due to the poor advice handed out
 
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You're right. All they are bothered about is getting people to spend more than they wanted to in the first place, then brow beating the vendor down in price for no other reason than they want to, then making them promise not to market the property or having any more viewings whether already booked or not, and inevitably ending up feeling hard done by because the buyers decide to pull out at the last minute. Not exactly real life judging by the posts we get on here.

Last night's however, was what it said on the tin. A couple with ex amount of money, please find us a house and this is what we want.


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[QUOTE]Originally posted by queenstomper:
I've heard similar snobbery from Solihull. One minute it's 'we don't live in Birmingham we live in Solihull', but criticise anything Brummy and they're from Birmingham again!


Queenstomper, I couldn't help myself - I had to reply to this ;-)

In fact, Solihull isn't in Birmingham, it's a town in the county of West Midlands and has a Borough Council i.e. I pay my council tax to Solihull MBC and not to Birmingham City Council. Birmingham's about 12 miles away and even further if you live in one of Solihull's outlying villages. The only connection to Birmingham is this, there's nothing else.

To be fair, to say someone who lives in Solihull actually lives in Birmingham is wrong, just the same as they don't live in Warwick (which is just as close as Birmingham).
 
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I know Laura, that Solihull isn't Birmingham, just that my friend used to live there and was always correcting people that she was not a brummie but was from Solihull. But watch out if you were ever less than complimentary about Birmingham, then suddenly she'd become the greatest fan. It just used to amuse me a bit.

It's all about accents isn't it really why people presume. Like someone from Runcorn isn't a Scouser.

I get all the time that I'm a Stokie when in fact I live in Newcastle under Lyme which is not part of Stoke on Trent but has a council of its own. Though nobody's ever heard of it so tend to say Stoke on Trent if anyone from elsewhere asks where I'm from.

Yes, I'm a snob!


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Strange that you don't consider Solihull part of Birmingham when it has a Birmingham postcode and a Birmingham phone code. Same as Sutton Coldfield does. Wink
 
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One not far from me does take the biscuit. Alsager School, which in fairness is very close to the Cheshire border, has an address of Stoke on Trent, ST7. Their headed paper has their address as Cheshire, VIA Stoke on Trent ST7, as though the Stoke bit is a PO box address or something! Classic.

Then again, my folks postcode is TF9, Telford 9, yet they are actually 4 miles inside the Staffordshire border and their council is in Staffordshire, everything really bar the postal area.


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Queenstomper, I live not far from her then. We're in a WV7 postcode, but the locals (I'm not one) consider themselves part of Shropshire. We're smack bang on the join of Staffs, Shrops and the West Mids.
 
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Queenstomper, I live not far from her then. We're in a WV7 postcode, but the locals (I'm not one) consider themselves part of Shropshire. We're smack bang on the join of Staffs, Shrops and the West Mids.


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Wolverhampton postcode, but actually a village outside Wolves itself. Like I said, people here consider themselves more Shropshire than Wolves, another example of postcode snobbery Wink
 
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No they aren't near you I think you're the other end. They are close to Market Drayton, which is the postal town, but the village is in Staffordshire and controlled by Newcastle under Lyme, Staffs borough council. Also about 5 miles from the Cheshire border.


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