I wonder if Kim and Aggie can help with the age old problem of how to make men realise that cleaning is NOT something that ONLY women can do.

I'm sick and tired of not only cleaning up after him, but also of doing chores he's supposed to do. Why can't he see that it IS important to keep a clean house and that his avoidance of housework means more work and a total lack of respect for me. I feel like an unpaid skivvy and it's not good for a happy relationship.

Seriously, I'm considering divorce!

Guys beware, housework is only unimportant if you don't have to do it.

Did you know that couples where the man does an equal or greater share of the housework have better and more frequent sex lives.

Also men can turn a blind eye to dirt where women can't, so he'll argue that he was going to clean up eventually but you (with your fussy ways) beat him to it - it's an age old excuse. Having said that I am lucky that my late mother-in-law never ran around after my husband when he lived at home - she made him get on and do things. Sadly she's the exception rather than the rule as most men are waited on hand and foot by their mothers and expect this to continue when married.

Well we've all grown up to learnthat the tradditonal way is the man works and the woman cleans and cooks, right?
It's just always been that way =(
Tell him to get off his back side and do some house work

I completely understand your feelings, sillycat, regarding your mans lack of care for your efforts to keep his surroundings clean.
I am living with a very messy person and it is a full time job just to keep up after him. He thinks that I am a compulsive clean nut, I know that I am not. The problem is that he is oblivious to his filth and stink. If he doesn't bathe for a week and I say that you smell bad, then he gets real insulted. Go figure!!
And every time he tries to help clean something he actually makes a bigger mess.

Hmmm

Mr D is actually pretty good at vacumming and cleaning the kitchen.

He is not so good at not leaving piles of pants/socks on the floor though. Why is this?

If kim and aggy are trying to make men clean, why are they supposedly women?

Oh and didn't one of them bury their kid in a park?

I say that if a person is piggy then no matter what you do, they will always be piggy.
Do you want to spend your precious life making the piggy more comfortable? Is that all that you think of yourself is someones janitor that works for free?
If I had it all to do again, I wouldn't. I would not get married OR live with anyone at all. I should have been more concerned for my well being because now I find myself becoming disabled, actually my back is worn out from working like a jackass all my life and there is no one to help me now and I don't have health insurance or money. Who is gonna take care of you?

Where do you live Lindabud? I assume it's America from your saying about health insurance. You're right abut people not changing.........

Hey, what do you know, someone is talking to me from the UK, OMG!!
My friend here that I take care of, used to live there in the UK while in the military. He told me that it is a welfare state. I guess that means you all get health care. I told him that I would like to live there because the people seem like my kind of folks and if I can get health care that's great. It will never happen, so I am happy to be able to communicate with you all like this.

We do pay for our health care through taxes, national insurance, private health care policies etc,we just don't actually get a bill for treatment . But to be honest, it's better not to be ill what with the state of the NHS & hospitals - you come out of hospital worse than when you went in!

These two fat birds off this show should make a series called 'How Clean Is Your Hospital'. Not that I'd watch obviously because I'm a bloke and have better things to do with women than watch them clean stuff.

Now I like that! I thought every man in the world loved to see a woman busy cleaning.
I hear that the hospitals are getting kind of germy here in the US too.
Hey I have a goog friend who is a hospital sanitation person.

good, not goog.

Fizzatron - the 'two fat birds' as you have nicely named them have already been there & done that, I think it was a hospital in London they filmed in.

A typical guy response to cleaning, fortunately us women know that the cleaning doesn't do itself & someone has to take responsiblity.

In my household, my husband does the cooking & food shopping & I do the housework, I think thats a fair deal (we both work), what do you all think ?

Mrs Diddy - whats even more anoying is that the dirty linen basket is under 5 steps from where he drops everything.

If you have a moan about it they manage to put them in the basket for a week or so, but then slip into old habits.

Another anoying this is socks the wrong way, whats that all about, my socks never come off in a ball, sometimes I am tempted to wash them that way & stick them back in the draw like that.

Maybe a big notice on the wardrobe door, with a cross through a bunched up sock may do the trick lol

Man versus shopping. Man goes to grocery store but sees bigger store on the way so man must go in to get bigger stuff thinking it will please woman to come home with large quantities thereby cutting down on shopping.
Man comes through door and says I'm home, it's all yours. That's great, I've been cleaning the fridge and everything to prepare for the shipment and I'm tired. Woman hauls in everything and begins the chore to find a place for all the stuff.
Meanwhile man did his part and sits down at his computer to play solitaire. Meanwhile woman works for rest of day what with all the food to get wrapped and stored. Then woman has to prepare the food and then....... well it just goes on and on.
I've noticed that a lot of women don't get out much because they got so much work to do and they got to be home to cook those meals. It's not fair.

My other half comes shopping but I load the stuff onto the conveyor belt (he will put a few items on when he notices me glaring at him), he'll pack maybe 1 or 2 bags if I'm lucky, then I load it all into the boot - but to be fair he lugs it all into the house & I put the fridge/freezer stuff away while he puts the cupboard stuff away. That doesn't sound too bad but it bugs me that he will stand there & watch me loading & packing it all myself. Men eh?!

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Originally posted by cheryl.:

Another anoying this is socks the wrong way, whats that all about, my socks never come off in a ball, sometimes I am tempted to wash them that way & stick them back in the draw like that.

PMSL Mr D is the opposite! When we moved in together last year, he actually instructed that I peg the sock up by the toe and not fold the tops over (you know how you pair them up) because it stretches them! Can you believe it!

[QUOTE]Originally posted by fatbird:
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Mr D is barred from shopping with me. It's much quicker and easier by myself.

lol, I dont drive so he has to come, or it'd cost a fortune in taxis! MrsDiddy - hang on to your hubby, he sounds great : )

^If you can cope with the socks thing (see my post above) then you can have him!

Can't he peg his own socks up if he's so particular? Don't think Mr FB would like another man in our house somehow so will have to decline your kind offer!

Sillycat I so understand how you feel. I seem to have worked hard at housework most of my life, and I made it even harder for myself as I;m a perfectionest,
I cant do so many things now because of MS, Some days i go crazy just wanting to do all the normal things. Then to crown it all I had a heart attack last August. I have a hubby who is the greatest man in the world as well as working out, he does so much around the house even ironing,I dont know how i would survive without him.
Please be thankful you have the health and strength to do all that you do. Oh how I wish.!!!! You sound like such a hard worker and loves your home. Hugs and take care..xxxxx

LINDABUD, what a lovely person you seem to be. What part of the USA do you come from. I live in Ireland and I;ll speak to you (ANYTIME) and be so glad to do so. Loved your post and love the way you sound. We have the health care too, dont know what we;d do without it.

Yes, I agree with what FB says. Our hospitals have gone to the dogs.
Your right we do pay through taxes, and national insurance, But we can thank God it doesn;t cost a fortune just to walk into the doctors surgery, especiall if you have small children, as they can be great one minute and sick the next.