I know we have a 9.00pm watershed, but does that mean everything prior to that has to be mindlessly sanitised? Watching "When Eight Bells Toll" on Film4 last night, I couldn't believe the number of cuts made to action scenes that are very innocuous by today's standards. And cutting the word "*******" out of Nathalie Delon's parting short was simply silly (especially as it was about 8.58pm by then). Even in the censorious early 70s, this film got away with an A certificate! Can we have a bit of thought put into these things please, rather than: "Oh, it's pre-watershed, let's just cut everything!"

And while we're at it, can we have a proper grown up forum that allows me to quote words beginning with B casting aspertions on a person's parentage? Please?

Pom Poko yesterday played in Japanese with dubtitles - subtitles based on the "cleaned-up" English dub. This meant things like the tanuki were referred to as "racoons", etc, even when they're very clearly saying "tanuki", and references to testicles were chopped. I would like Film4 to show this again, with uncensored subtitles.

I can't get film four so I cannot comment on there pericular attitude to censorship but I will say that Channel 4 has a habbit of doing a lot in normal tv - like so many others. One that I always found laughable (forgive me for mentioning this program in here I just happen to remember it) was from Freinds. At one point a chracter is under the impression he has been given pornography and is somewhat excited, but in the middle of the "she bought me porn!" they cut the "porn" line so all he says is "she bought me.." then switches to another scene and you don't know if you have never seen it before what was said.

I do understand why this is done, but on the basis this show is aimed at a mature audiance then why is it being shown at 10.45 on a saturday morning?

As far as film four is concerned I know how much I laugh when I see the lines under a film saying "contains one swear word, one scene of toture, one sex scene" and I am not suggesting they do that but do F4 show the rating that the BBFC gave the film at the start? If not start doing it and let the consumers make the choice - but don't censor and ruin it for the rest of us.

Film4 no longer appear to be a proper film channel. They no longer care about film fans.

It seems to be becoming common in both FilmFour and Channel 4 itself to edit film to make them suitable for pre-watershed screenings, which is a shame, as Channel 4 were once the only channel who didn't edit films as a matter of principle.

Recent Channel 4 examples include Towering Inferno, The Dish, Wild Side and Touching the Void. I'm curious to see whether they mess with tonight's 8pm screening of Ghostbusters!

FilmFour have also screened a cut version of The Dish, and Brewster's Millions the other night appeared to be missing a few milder examples of swearing. They also showed Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon pre-watershed, would I be right in suspecting that this would have lost a few moments of violence?

I'm pleased to say I haven't watched a single film on FilmFour since it went free - if even Sky can show films in their correct aspect ratio on their movie channels, then are FilmFour implying that their viewers are less intelligent than Sky Movies viewers, and won't accept films in Scope?

Oops, I meant Eye of the Needle, not Wild Side, in the previous post - not entirely sure how I got those two mixed up!

Soaps regularly have swearing in them throughout the afternoon and evening.