not with scimpy negligee on, anyway.

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Originally posted by heroverthere:
that's a bit unfair to caroline. if you went to the house of someone you liked wearing scimpy negligee, then he arrived with his ex girlfriend and newly discovered son in tow, you wouldn't want to stay and offer your support, would you?

erm no...I would be mortified and run away!
I would've taken the jacket though

OK the lingerie thing would be a tad embarrassing to be sure. I wasn’t really thinking of that instance to be honest.

Sorry, I don’t mean to be unfair… perhaps I have rambled on too much. It’s my first day and I’m a little bit over-excited! – I’m not blaming Caroline – I think they’re both as much to blame. I just think that it’s easy to forget just how much Mac has been through… It’s not like he’s just been a total git without reason. And to me it’s so obvious he loves her – he just can’t express himself very well… a typical man and I love him for it!!

i do agree that we shud cut mac some slack but is anyone else annoyed with the amount of obstacles the writers have put in the way of caroline and mac? once they were both sure the liked each other there seemed to be lots of problems. eg, i think it was totally unnecessary for mac to break things off when he found out bout his "son". they cud still have stayed together and i cant believe that mac eud consider getting back together with holly when he doesnt love her. they both let all the little arguments and things with sue and guy become a problem when they didnt need to be.

i also think in regard to mac not proposing, we have to think that he has problems with commitment since he was with holly for 6 years and you would have thought that they would have gotten married after that long but they didnt. the fact that mac even thought bout marriage after only a few months shows his love ofr caroline.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by lovemac!:
i do agree that we shud cut mac some slack but is anyone else annoyed with the amount of obstacles the writers have put in the way of caroline and mac?

But this is in the romantic tradition - we've got our own little Pride and Prejudice scemario going on here. They've just ramped it up till we are sooooo frustrated, which is the way it is supposed to be. (Although if anyone from GW should read this, I've had enough now, I may actually explode if you don't let them get it together in ep 9)

I agree with:
1)Mac really seems to struggle to show his true feelings (making everything into a joke - eyebrow comment, which I thought was quite funny, and someone on anpther thread said it was cos Caro's always playing with her eyebrows around him)
2) He has been messed around by Holly so is bound to be cautious about women
3) Caro has kissed like EVERY bloke in the hospital, including sticking her tongue down Guy's throat one time to make Mac jealous - how does he know she's not like it with all the guys. You can't blame him for being cautious about totally admitting his true feelings to Caro, like someone said about the yes/no/maybe situation.
4) He said something like "I'm sorry to have lost you" and his face after the hula hoop thing. It really is not easy to go out on a limb and tell someone how you feel about them, especially if you've been messed around, even if you know they quite like you.
5) Guy has been sweet latwly, but I don't like him quite so much and the chemistry with him and Caro really isn't there like with Mac.

Phew. Sorry!

wow guys, its all made me think! i understand mac has been through a lot, but his behaviour to mean seems very intentional. he couldve stopped caroline talking about the engagement thing and said "woa im not proposing" but he let her carry on only to let her down. i know hes been through a lot, and i do feel sorry for him deffo, but it seems like hes doing all this just to see how far he can push caro, rather than by accident.

do u not think that caros also pushin mac too? Kissing guy-infront of him , and in private; then there was jake; walking out of the restaurant...it seems that they both love each other to much that they are afraid of commiting because if something goes wrong it's not just going to hurt, it's really going to hurt!

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Originally posted by SpooonOfDestiny:
do u not think that caros also pushin mac too? Kissing guy-infront of him , and in private; then there was jake; walking out of the restaurant...it seems that they both love each other to much that they are afraid of commiting because if something goes wrong it's not just going to hurt, it's really going to hurt!

lets not worry too much I'm sure Boyce will bang their silly little heads together in the special episode
Some has too and it may as well be him!

oh i hope so jemma1! otherwise i dont know what ill do! i think ill be more upset about caro/ac than about ross and rach 'on a break' in Friends!

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Originally posted by SpooonOfDestiny:
oh i hope so jemma1! otherwise i dont know what ill do! i think ill be more upset about caro/ac than about ross and rach 'on a break' in Friends!

ah but if they work out the same way Ross and Rach did then they will be together at the end
I suppose it is similar , as the Friends writers spent most of their time dragging them apart , and Rachel did go out with Ross's friend Joey but it didn't work out.
Rachel was Ross's lobster and I believe Caroline is Mac's!

ps- am also a card carrying friends fan too!

wow i cant believe how much responce i got to my last post its just everywhere you read it alway seems to be mac fault. but when it come down to they are both as bad as each other. they are both scared of telling each other how they really feel. i like the idea of boyce banging ther heads together or locking them in a cuboard. i do thing boyice is the man of reason.

"see, she's his lobster" i hope so! and their relationship is very similar to ross/rach there are alot of similaities you're right...hope has been restored!

I think Caroline has to take some of the blame too. Mac needs to get some balls and Caroline needs to loosen up. I fell in love with my boyf when we were both 17 and we are still together and I never found love so complicated. Does it get harder when you get older?

maybe it'll be boyce who tells caro - by accident - the reason why mac didnt turn up to the station, coz he'll presume that mac has told caro, and tell her how upset he is....oh it's turning into prid&prejudice or bridget jones lol

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Originally posted by SpooonOfDestiny:
"see, she's his lobster" i hope so! and their relationship is very similar to ross/rach there are alot of similaities you're right...hope has been restored!

dont worry Spooon I have every faith that Mac and Caroline get their happy ending , Guy has told too many lies to come out on top.
Plus this whole 'mac is dying nonsense' is riddled with doubt for me , as the greenwing writers would never make ep 9 a staright-forward follow on from ep 8 would they?!
What would be the point of ep 9 if Mac died and Caroline married Guy?

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Originally posted by jemma1:

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Originally posted by SpooonOfDestiny:
"see, she's his lobster" i hope so! and their relationship is very similar to ross/rach there are alot of similaities you're right...hope has been restored!

dont worry Spooon I have every faith that Mac and Caroline get their happy ending , Guy has told too many lies to come out on top.
Plus this whole 'mac is dying nonsense' is riddled with doubt for me , as the greenwing writers would never make ep 9 a staright-forward follow on from ep 8 would they?!
What would be the point of ep 9 if Mac died and Caroline married Guy?

that what i keep tellin myself! if she'd have beenwith mac in ep8, they prob wld twist it so she gets guy in the end...makes for a nail biting finish! so i hope we are right!

Oh, traceygirl ... gosh. I'm so impressed you said that. I can see why Mac would be very hurt by the Holly/baby thing. I did notice that this is the only show (that I've seen, at least) that assumes that a man might be as upset about losing a baby as a woman might. Just another example of GW's high status! It was so good not to have another 'woman/abortion' story where the issue is a simple good/bad dichotomy and the men are excluded, wasn't it?

I really hope we all get the happy ending we are all hoping for. I'm convinced Guy's lying and Mac will realise he has a lot to live for and maybe turn over a leaf and make sure the whole world knows how much he loves Caroline. I think I said it before but you dont know what you've got till its gone, so knowing he has another chance to make things right once and for all he'll go for it.

Mac and Caro have to get together. Caro says silly things cos she is scatty and Mac always lets her do it. it is also so much more realistic that after all of the problems that they have had getting it together that they would take it slow, not just get married on the spur of the moment! Moving in and a weekend away is much more realistic.

It wouldn't work with Guy as he blatently is too wrapped up in himself. Even though he knows that Caroline really likes Mac, he does whatever he can to stir a bit of trouble (like trying to kiss her all the time (not that she puts up mnuch of a fight though)). It is all selfish with him and about making himself happy. Proved by his easy distraction into tales of Caro's lesbian experiences when he's meant to be declaring undying love. Sealed by the fact they have to retake their kiss "Sorry, it's just I usually lunge" See all just selfish!

i think its more Mac than Caro tho, yea ok she kissed Guy in front of him, but that was only to make her look less stupid after he completely abandoned her with the whole Holly thing. Sometimes Caro is off with him, but Mac's actions seem way to intention.

I used to want Caromac SO much, but im not too sure now! maybe when i have a marathon green wing watch in the summer ill change my mind!