Samuel Boutwell is a seven-year-old preacher. He takes his vocation to save sinners from rotting in eternal hell extremely seriously. Every Saturday he stands in front of his local abortion clinic in Brookhaven, Mississippi and, bible in hand, bellows:
'Don't kill your child! Repent! God loves the little children!'.
Samuel Boutwell is a seven-year-old preacher. He takes his vocation to save sinners from rotting in eternal hell extremely seriously. Every Saturday he stands in front of his local abortion clinic in Brookhaven, Mississippi and, bible in hand, bellows:
'Don't kill your child! Repent! God loves the little children!'.
A pity there aren't more children of this age who are sufficiently eloquent to effectively draw attention to the sins of the masses.
What time is it, Mr Woolf? Time to mend your ways, for the end is nigh.
Originally posted by Mr Woolf: A pity there aren't more children of this age who are sufficiently eloquent to effectively draw attention to the sins of the masses.
Yeah, brainwash them early - it's easier. What chance has a young child to see and reason the idiocy of myth.
Do you think any of these brainwashed kids could reconcile the problem of freewill/omniscience? I would bet they don't even know what the problem is let alone could argue it. "God just can" would be the best they would offer - Mind you that'd put them on a par with the best theologians and their dim-witted excuses.
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Originally posted by miz'd: Every Saturday he stands in front of his local abortion clinic in Brookhaven, Mississippi and, bible in hand, bellows:
'Don't kill your child! Repent! God loves the little children!'.
Wonder why he chooses to pick on abortion - God forbid, someone has coached him?
A sin is a sin, so why not save more sinners by preaching against lying - He could target the Discovery Institute and its underlings the IDers for instance. Or what about all those divorcees who are (according to the bible) adulterers. Far more sinners in those two categories than, in comparison, the paltry few who have abortions.
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Never argue with stupid people. They just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Samuel Boutwell is a seven-year-old preacher. He takes his vocation to save sinners from rotting in eternal hell extremely seriously. Every Saturday he stands in front of his local abortion clinic in Brookhaven, Mississippi and, bible in hand, bellows:
'Don't kill your child! Repent! God loves the little children!'.
A pity there aren't more children of this age who are sufficiently eloquent to effectively draw attention to the sins of the masses.
on the contrary, this child is functioning at an age appropriate morality - killing is bad, don't do it.
where as you are almost a grown up and should know better?
This is childhood abuse. These children will never know the true meaning of having fun, partying with friends and living life to the full. It is about time these so called Born again Christians stopped brain washing vulnerable human beings. Don't people realise they are only after your money, you don't hear of a poor Prosperity Preacher or TV Evangelist.
Originally posted by Mr Woolf: This is just a ridiculous statement. A lion couldn't make more than a half decent snack out of a seven year old.
Actually a single lion would have a reasonably good and satisfactory meal on an average 7 yo human. FFS it isn't hard to find out the average weight of meat a lion requires per day. As usual you just open your mouth and let the hot air out.
Anyway, why all the posts on other threads yet none on those in which your idiotic biblical statements have been challenged. Running away from facing the truth, are we?
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Originally posted by Mr Woolf: This is just a ridiculous statement. A lion couldn't make more than a half decent snack out of a seven year old.
Actually a single lion would have a reasonably good and satisfactory meal on an average 7 yo human. FFS it isn't hard to find out the average weight of meat a lion requires per day. As usual you just open your mouth and let the hot air out.
this has got to be one of my all time favourite forum exchanges...
How discustd and sad it was to watch baby bible bashers tonight. And this is the only message i can give. Jesus is a fake , who does not care about any one , if he was SO GOOD , do you think he would let children be put through that HURT , SHAME AND HUMILIATION. And for that to happen the answer is YES, *******. thats all i can say about jesus, add a T and what have you got , Jest us. Very funny. Why dont you all get the Pope to answer the letter i wrote, or at least have the desency to find out what it said and see if you agree. That is before you condem me for writing a message you dont really care about. But check facts first , and then come back to the Antie Christ. What are you scared of. Some thing jesus taught me, to be afraid of nothing and no one, including the pope and world leaders. Trust me i have an answer to more than you could ever imagine. The Omen or Amen
Those kids were not going through shame and humiliation because they were reveared and promoted so much by the principle people in their lives they did not realise what they were doing was 'odd'.
However these principle influences, namely parents, all controlled them through strict discipline.
It was edited to indicate the children had divine communication and feelings were fed through them but none of the filming actually verified this.
Out of the arena of 'preaching' the children were bemused, shy, shocked and intimidated by the behaviour of other adults.
What the film did not show either was the hours of practice required to enable the children to perform and preach what they said.
A significant event was the boy from an area of America where everyone has strong conviction was taken into New York. He was shocked so many people had such different approaches to his words.
It makes me wonder how old these children will be before they understand/ realise/ question their parents and what they are saying.
What an inspiring producer: honest and fair and a credit to Channel 4, allowing the viewer to make up his/her own mind. Just for the record, if adult Christians have a God-given capacity to preach, heal, evangelise, then why shouldn't children? As for the guardians in the film: do we really have enough informtion to make a judgement?
I agree entirely with E-F above - lots of hidden rote-learning. The programme made me boil with anger. This was nothing less than child abuse - particularly in the case of the son of the Missippee redneck. One would like to think that in more enlightend societies the local social work dept would take an interest in the way these freakish and delusional parents were bringing up their child.
In the case of the other two children it was clear that, to their parents, they had "MEAL Ticket" written all over them.
Yet again I am fuming and down-right disgusted by christian behaviour...how heartbreaking I found it to watch that poor 7 year old crying through fear on the streets of New York.
To me, the hipocrasy that stains the christian religion is possibly the worst part of it.
Some examples, amongst others...
Young Samuel is beaten for 'rebelling' against his parents. Would Jesus do this? Terry is literally famous and funding a rather nice lifestyle for his family - this is his father talking: "The next few years I am seeing Terry doing pasturing in the 30,000-membered church. I am seeing Terry moving into a mega, probably $1.5 million church building, you know built from the ground up". He continues, "You got to understand, Terry is being groomed to become a man of God, you know, so the newest things to the market are the t-shirts, we also have hats, probably have bags. But the t-shirts and the autographed signature pictures, all of these things are sort of new to our good regime."
All for the good of the christian word? I don't think so...
All three of the children are absolutely revered by their local (and beyond) religious communities...they themselves are worshipped, something that the bible strongly condemns.
Originally posted by sendis: Why dont you all get the Pope to answer the letter i wrote, or at least have the desency to find out what it said and see if you agree. That is before you condem me for writing a message you dont really care about. But check facts first , and then come back to the Antie Christ. What are you scared of. Some thing jesus taught me, to be afraid of nothing and no one, including the pope and world leaders. Trust me i have an answer to more than you could ever imagine. The Omen or Amen
Oh dear, keep taking those drugs.
MizD.
Looks like your wish is coming true although I don't believe the standard of opposing argument will be raised.
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Originally posted by southmead: This is childhood abuse. These children will never know the true meaning of having fun, partying with friends and living life to the full. It is about time these so called Born again Christians stopped brain washing vulnerable human beings. Don't people realise they are only after your money, you don't hear of a poor Prosperity Preacher or TV Evangelist.
I couldn't agree more. . . and not only mental and emotional abuse! Am I the only one who noticed the child crigning and begging his mother not to lay her hands on him? Or to hear the slaps and screams that followed while the camera was on his father?
I cried for the sheer inhumanity of these people. I hope that their child and their god can forgive them. I know I wouldn't.
a) Baby Bible Bashers was a fine piece of documentary filmmaking. b) If it has reported objectively, what we were watching was serious, SERIOUS child abuse in broad daylight. Forget about the broader sickness of fundamentalist Christianity in the US (and Brazil) - if someone is in a position to report the parents to the relevant child protection authority, please, please do. c) Though Sam Boutwell got the most moving scene in the documentary (tears of confusion and fear running down his face as he and his evangelical entourage face the hostility of 'godless' New Yorkers), I think he's the one of the three kids we need to worry least about. He's clearly extremely intelligent, he speaks with the clarity and articulateness of someone twice his age, and his father seems more simple and ignorant than manipulative. Poor Terry and Ana Carolina have a deeper struggle, their fathers (and Terry's grandmother too) evidently having their greedy eyes only on the sheer profitability of what they have groomed their children to become. Terry's father seemed to talk of nothing but money, profits, merchandise, an 'empire'. Ana Carolina's relationship with her father (she still sleeps in the same room as her parents - let it be plural) is flat-out sinister. They speak of each other in almost romantic terms; meanwhile the father scripts and choreographs every word and gesture of her 'sermons', after each of which her voice is hoarse to the point of laryngial damage.
These children are going through a horrifying process of psychological torture, indoctrination and what amounts to forced labour. Please, please, if someone is in a position to call in the cavalry on their morally bankrupt and possibly sociopathic parents, do so. For the love of whatever God you believe in, or just the love of humanity.
I watched this last night. Shame on Samuel's parents. They have clearly lost their way and have distorted christianity into their own peculiar belief system.
My stomach churned when the mother was smacking him off camera in the camper van. I am pretty sure God doesn't want us to beat our kids - would she accept that as morally correct if it was an adult slapping another adult? I doubt it, she would probably shout "sinner" at them.
The scene in New York where Samueal was obviously terrified and upset broke my heart. His parents need a reality check - what they are subjecting him to is cruel and uncecessary. By all means encourage an interest in religion - but don't place your child in a dangerous, frightening environment and brain wash them.
