I posted the following and it went shortly after. I think too quickly for my words to have done it but you never know. I think if we keep it general then it may survive longer. If it was my words then I better say bye bye everybody before I post.
In response to it not being the right way to live I wrote.
What is right? I too grew up in such an environment; in my case my Mother permanently intoxicated with cheap booze and a string of uncles. I think I was lucky to escape, my sister is a 4x4 girl (rather than a 7x5). My older Brother used to get moved out periodically and a new bloke moved in for a while, not sure if his kids are his or not. My younger brother you don't wanna hear about. Circumstances rather than upbringing have given us what appear to be different values, or have they and would it be there but for the grace of God had I not escaped? This of course was in the day when our education system allowed more to escape.
We should not allow uncontrolled breeding through unlimited benefits I agree. How are we to solve this problem, by replacing them in the workforce and allowing them to perpetuate the species they may be becoming?
What a very sad post. I wish i had the answers but I just dont know where it all went wrong. there was poverty in the past in relation to money but poverty of spirit such as this has never been so widespread.
Old fashioned I know but when I was growing up it would have been shamful to be an unmarried mother (my sister got pregnant and married very hastily aged 18). Since having children without a relationship has become more socially acceptable and affordable it seems that a breakdown in family values has escalated. I know it's far more complex than this but .......................the amount of kids having kids with no thought to the future is incredibly worrying.
I was born early 60’s, my B and S were 2 years older and is 2 years younger respectively. B was bright, scholarship, which he blew with his image becoming more important. My nieces/nephews are very much the same ilk, already producing in great quantities. Some of the incestuous stuff I have seen makes you wonder how on earth it became like this. But as I say there but for the grace go I.
I don’t know if it has gotten any worse, the publicity perhaps make it difficult to assess. Sure the poverty is less but as you say so is the respect for family - ones parents in particular. We surely cannot continue on ignoring the situation and that must involve the causes rather than just the symptoms.
Originally posted by Bonmot: My experiences make me believe that these people are not lost causes, they just need direction.
Absoloutely ......but how? If parenting courses are suggested then it's people crying about a nanny state. and who would conduct them anyway ....do these people need middle class values thrust upon them?
i really dont know how you can give these people direction .....it all seems to have spiralled a little out of control. God knows how it can be righted.
