Originally posted by Awakened One: You must be going around with your eyes closed.
Now now no need to be rude, can't you discuss without being so rude? And no i am not going round with my eyes closed however your statements are often breif and sweeping so unless you elabourate on what you mean how will anyone else know?
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Have you not seen the sit coms? Multiracial couple,the man is usually black,the woman white.They even have token gays and the token wheelchair user as well.All very pc. Advertising is full of mixed race couples these days,including literature produced from official sources.
Maybe because they are now representative in our society, hence why directors etc feel the need to use them. And why not are they not entitled to be actors, actresses etc? Are they not entitled to write poetry?
You're looking for a missinterpretation of the world as it is today, believe it or not people do get in to mixed relationships, peopl are comfortable with their sexuality. So therefore without their pressence in the media wouldn't it be a media that under represents everybody?
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Advertisments in which the white male is ridiculed and the black male is admired for his intelligence and prowess.
Give me an advert where that is so, off the top of my head i can't think of one.
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The messages are there and they are no longer subliminal.
They never were subliminal in the first place.
If a sitcom is set in London, which has a representative of every nation, race, colour, creed, ethnicity, language on the globe was just about a group of White hetro sexual Males who spend their time in a launderette, never encounter anyone of any other ethnicity (in central london) and live happilly ever after. Wouldn't that be completely incorrect.
Everything is relative, now where i live in the midlands there is more chance of that scenario. Your proposals are simply not logical.
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It is no longer cool to be white and god forbid if you are proud to be white. In Blair`s Britain you can be proud to be gay,disabled and black but not male and white.
Personaly i know people who are extreemely proud of being English and fly the flag with pride and no one cares. It's only people like you who seem to be so paranoid that are putting these constrictions on to yourself. You and the PC mob's, neither has done anyone any good.
Would a white hetro male channel designed purely for you suffice?
I don`t watch televion,just the occasional film on video.Therefore I choose not to allow the most insiduous means of conveying propaganda into daily living. This is not about flag waving-I am not a "patriot" as such.
Originally posted by Awakened One: No it is beacuse the media has presented the fiction that it is "cool to be black" and uncool to be white.
No they haven't, evidence please
You must be going around with your eyes closed. Have you not seen the sit coms? Multiracial couple,the man is usually black,the woman white.They even have token gays and the token wheelchair user as well.All very pc. Advertising is full of mixed race couples these days,including literature produced from official sources. Advertisments in which the white male is ridiculed and the black male is admired for his intelligence and prowess.The messages are there and they are no longer subliminal. It is no longer cool to be white and god forbid if you are proud to be white. In Blair`s Britain you can be proud to be gay,disabled and black but not male and white.
MRTIBBSAYS. Where on earth have you seen all this.
Mr Tibbs,it is everywhere.Perhaps you have not seen it because you are not looking for it but it is certainly on the increase.
MRTIBBSAYS. Maybe it's because it's turning into a multicultral society which it seems you want to fight against, rather than fight it why not embrace it.
Perhaps I am fighting a lost cause but that is irrelevant. According to the teaching of Julius Evola,it matters not the winning or the losing,one must simply fight.This the way of the Ariya.
And mixed race relationships are not allowed to be represented on television anymore?
As for those films, not one was english btw..so much for your dedication to the english race.
Of course they are represented, they do live in the world you know.
I never said mixed relationships shouldn't be on TV, I pointed out that they seem to appear everywhere and in most films that everyone watches. The ppl who make these films and ads are part of the huge tool mouth piece for the Gvnt. There must be a sinister reason for that because now people are beginning to change their views about it.
Yes in those films there was English ppl in it. BTW you must be confusing me with someone because I never told you where I come from or what I represent. Besides that in Day after Tomorrow there was a black "British" male with a pregnant white British wife. Also as Awakened One said, this is about white people, not those of specific nationalities.
We live in the world where all European countries are open to mass immigration, with media showing mixed race couples and friends, with black cultures and other cultures highlighted but those of native European cultures denied, and also of the media. The media is exposing everyone to images that are artificial, directed by official governments like Bush and Blair, and aimed at most people to think a certain way.
But Mr Tibbs,it isn`t you that they are trying to influence and indoctrinate it is mainly the white population and those who are more susceptible to brainwashing.
MRTIBBSAYS. You are begining to lose the plot again, I think you are susceptible to brainwashing, dont bring other white people into this i'm sure they would have a few things to say on that score, maybe just maybe they would like us all to get on together, as I have said colour does not bother me.
"It Is Impossible To Defeat An Ignorant Man In Argument."
"Never Converse With An Idiot, For Someone May Walk By And Not Know Who The Idiot Is".!
And mixed race relationships are not allowed to be represented on television anymore?
As for those films, not one was english btw..so much for your dedication to the english race.
Of course they are represented, they do live in the world you know.
I never said mixed relationships shouldn't be on TV, I pointed out that they seem to appear everywhere and in most films that everyone watches. The ppl who make these films and ads are part of the huge tool mouth piece for the Gvnt. There must be a sinister reason for that because now people are beginning to change their views about it.
Yes in those films there was English ppl in it. BTW you must be confusing me with someone because I never told you where I come from or what I represent. Besides that in Day after Tomorrow there was a black "British" male with a pregnant white British wife. Also as Awakened One said, this is about white people, not those of specific nationalities.
We live in the world where all European countries are open to mass immigration, with media showing mixed race couples and friends, with black cultures and other cultures highlighted but those of native European cultures denied, and also of the media. The media is exposing everyone to images that are artificial, directed by official governments like Bush and Blair, and aimed at most people to think a certain way.
MRTIBBSAYS. What native european country is denied.
"It Is Impossible To Defeat An Ignorant Man In Argument."
"Never Converse With An Idiot, For Someone May Walk By And Not Know Who The Idiot Is".!
But Mr Tibbs,it isn`t you that they are trying to influence and indoctrinate it is mainly the white population and those who are more susceptible to brainwashing.
MRTIBBSAYS. You are begining to lose the plot again, I think you are susceptible to brainwashing, dont bring other white people into this i'm sure they would have a few things to say on that score, maybe just maybe they would like us all to get on together, as I have said colour does not bother me.
The masses do not "think".That is something they are incapable of;only individuals think. The crowd is easier to influence and control than an individual.It can be made to think and want anything.It merely "feels". We would "get along" a lot better apart not together,each in our own part of the world. Look at the USA and see what multiculturalism has done to that country.Let that be a warning from history. Or better still look at the breakdown of the caste system in India.
And mixed race relationships are not allowed to be represented on television anymore?
As for those films, not one was english btw..so much for your dedication to the english race.
Of course they are represented, they do live in the world you know.
I never said mixed relationships shouldn't be on TV, I pointed out that they seem to appear everywhere and in most films that everyone watches. The ppl who make these films and ads are part of the huge tool mouth piece for the Gvnt. There must be a sinister reason for that because now people are beginning to change their views about it.
Yes in those films there was English ppl in it. BTW you must be confusing me with someone because I never told you where I come from or what I represent. Besides that in Day after Tomorrow there was a black "British" male with a pregnant white British wife. Also as Awakened One said, this is about white people, not those of specific nationalities.
We live in the world where all European countries are open to mass immigration, with media showing mixed race couples and friends, with black cultures and other cultures highlighted but those of native European cultures denied, and also of the media. The media is exposing everyone to images that are artificial, directed by official governments like Bush and Blair, and aimed at most people to think a certain way.
MRTIBBSAYS. What native european country is denied.
The native Europeans are denied their right to live amongst themselves in isolation,preserving their peoples,their countries and their cultures.
And mixed race relationships are not allowed to be represented on television anymore?
As for those films, not one was english btw..so much for your dedication to the english race.
Of course they are represented, they do live in the world you know.
I never said mixed relationships shouldn't be on TV, I pointed out that they seem to appear everywhere and in most films that everyone watches. The ppl who make these films and ads are part of the huge tool mouth piece for the Gvnt. There must be a sinister reason for that because now people are beginning to change their views about it.
Yes in those films there was English ppl in it. BTW you must be confusing me with someone because I never told you where I come from or what I represent. Besides that in Day after Tomorrow there was a black "British" male with a pregnant white British wife. Also as Awakened One said, this is about white people, not those of specific nationalities.
We live in the world where all European countries are open to mass immigration, with media showing mixed race couples and friends, with black cultures and other cultures highlighted but those of native European cultures denied, and also of the media. The media is exposing everyone to images that are artificial, directed by official governments like Bush and Blair, and aimed at most people to think a certain way.
MRTIBBSAYS. What native european country is denied.
The native Europeans are denied their right to live amongst themselves in isolation,preserving their peoples,their countries and their cultures.
MRTIBBSAYS. Australia ring a bell little lady what happened to there isolation and preserving there country and culture ie the aboriginies heard of them the natives some europeans use to shoot for fun dont come running now crying you want to be left alone, how ignorant you are about world history.
"It Is Impossible To Defeat An Ignorant Man In Argument."
"Never Converse With An Idiot, For Someone May Walk By And Not Know Who The Idiot Is".!
And mixed race relationships are not allowed to be represented on television anymore?
As for those films, not one was english btw..so much for your dedication to the english race.
Of course they are represented, they do live in the world you know.
I never said mixed relationships shouldn't be on TV, I pointed out that they seem to appear everywhere and in most films that everyone watches. The ppl who make these films and ads are part of the huge tool mouth piece for the Gvnt. There must be a sinister reason for that because now people are beginning to change their views about it.
Yes in those films there was English ppl in it. BTW you must be confusing me with someone because I never told you where I come from or what I represent. Besides that in Day after Tomorrow there was a black "British" male with a pregnant white British wife. Also as Awakened One said, this is about white people, not those of specific nationalities.
We live in the world where all European countries are open to mass immigration, with media showing mixed race couples and friends, with black cultures and other cultures highlighted but those of native European cultures denied, and also of the media. The media is exposing everyone to images that are artificial, directed by official governments like Bush and Blair, and aimed at most people to think a certain way.
MRTIBBSAYS. What native european country is denied.
The native Europeans are denied their right to live amongst themselves in isolation,preserving their peoples,their countries and their cultures.
MRTIBBSAYS. Australia ring a bell little lady what happened to there isolation and preserving there country and culture ie the aboriginies heard of them the natives some europeans use to shoot for fun dont come running now crying you want to be left alone, how ignorant you are about world history.
No one is advocating imperialism:I certainly don`t.But don`t try and fool us into accepting that it has always been one way. There were plenty of examples of whites being sold into slavery by blacks over the centuries and this is only just coming to light. How about we agree to a swap? We will take back all white colonialists in exchange for non-indigenous people returning to their country or continent of origin.How about that?
And mixed race relationships are not allowed to be represented on television anymore?
As for those films, not one was english btw..so much for your dedication to the english race.
Of course they are represented, they do live in the world you know.
I never said mixed relationships shouldn't be on TV, I pointed out that they seem to appear everywhere and in most films that everyone watches. The ppl who make these films and ads are part of the huge tool mouth piece for the Gvnt. There must be a sinister reason for that because now people are beginning to change their views about it.
Yes in those films there was English ppl in it. BTW you must be confusing me with someone because I never told you where I come from or what I represent. Besides that in Day after Tomorrow there was a black "British" male with a pregnant white British wife. Also as Awakened One said, this is about white people, not those of specific nationalities.
We live in the world where all European countries are open to mass immigration, with media showing mixed race couples and friends, with black cultures and other cultures highlighted but those of native European cultures denied, and also of the media. The media is exposing everyone to images that are artificial, directed by official governments like Bush and Blair, and aimed at most people to think a certain way.
MRTIBBSAYS. What native european country is denied.
The native Europeans are denied their right to live amongst themselves in isolation,preserving their peoples,their countries and their cultures.
MRTIBBSAYS. Australia ring a bell little lady what happened to there isolation and preserving there country and culture ie the aboriginies heard of them the natives some europeans use to shoot for fun dont come running now crying you want to be left alone, how ignorant you are about world history.
No one is advocating imperialism:I certainly don`t.But don`t try and fool us into accepting that it has always been one way. There were plenty of examples of whites being sold into slavery by blacks over the centuries and this is only just coming to light. How about we agree to a swap? We will take back all white colonialists in exchange for non-indigenous people returning to their country or continent of origin.How about that?
MRTIBBSAYS. Goodnight. read your history books not white surpremist ones that you pick and choose bits out of just to suit your needs, whilst moving the goalpost continually, i've already spent too much time with you. Goodnight.
"It Is Impossible To Defeat An Ignorant Man In Argument."
"Never Converse With An Idiot, For Someone May Walk By And Not Know Who The Idiot Is".!
And mixed race relationships are not allowed to be represented on television anymore?
As for those films, not one was english btw..so much for your dedication to the english race.
Of course they are represented, they do live in the world you know.
I never said mixed relationships shouldn't be on TV, I pointed out that they seem to appear everywhere and in most films that everyone watches. The ppl who make these films and ads are part of the huge tool mouth piece for the Gvnt. There must be a sinister reason for that because now people are beginning to change their views about it.
Yes in those films there was English ppl in it. BTW you must be confusing me with someone because I never told you where I come from or what I represent. Besides that in Day after Tomorrow there was a black "British" male with a pregnant white British wife. Also as Awakened One said, this is about white people, not those of specific nationalities.
We live in the world where all European countries are open to mass immigration, with media showing mixed race couples and friends, with black cultures and other cultures highlighted but those of native European cultures denied, and also of the media. The media is exposing everyone to images that are artificial, directed by official governments like Bush and Blair, and aimed at most people to think a certain way.
MRTIBBSAYS. What native european country is denied.
The native Europeans are denied their right to live amongst themselves in isolation,preserving their peoples,their countries and their cultures.
MRTIBBSAYS. Australia ring a bell little lady what happened to there isolation and preserving there country and culture ie the aboriginies heard of them the natives some europeans use to shoot for fun dont come running now crying you want to be left alone, how ignorant you are about world history.
No one is advocating imperialism:I certainly don`t.But don`t try and fool us into accepting that it has always been one way. There were plenty of examples of whites being sold into slavery by blacks over the centuries and this is only just coming to light. How about we agree to a swap? We will take back all white colonialists in exchange for non-indigenous people returning to their country or continent of origin.How about that?
MRTIBBSAYS. Goodnight. read your history books not white surpremist ones that you pick and choose bits out of just to suit your needs, whilst moving the goalpost continually, i've already spent too much time with you. Goodnight.
You will be back:it must make a change for you to meet such an intelligent poster and opponent?
MRTIBBSAYS. Oh I will be back just not tonight, it does make a change to meet an intelligent poster and opponent, let me know when you find one besides me of course.
"It Is Impossible To Defeat An Ignorant Man In Argument."
"Never Converse With An Idiot, For Someone May Walk By And Not Know Who The Idiot Is".!
Originally posted by Surrey man: Personally I don't think multiculturalism exists. As an Englishman and a Londoner born and bred, I along with millions of others have deserted the cities and left them to Multiculturalism... I don't know why because you don't see West Indians living in Southall nor likewise do you see Asians living in Brixton.
did you not just contradict yourself there by saying that you dont belive multiculturalism exits and then saying you left the city because of it.
I used to live in Newham in east london where there are many different cultures living side by side. I also have asian friends who have lived in Brixton. I don't know about Southall i have only been there once.
reading all the entries there is just so much to say. I'l start with what is really puzzling me, ok lets think about Eastenders for a second a typical British soap which you would think would represent the eastend of london, and as i have just said how i lived in east london and how there are many cultures there. Well do we see this in the show? not really
I dont think mixed 'race' couples are over represented in the media or that the 'black male' is being shown in a positive light above the 'white male'. My mother is english and my father is iranian and my boyfriend is ethiopian. There are many mixed couples in this country and it is not a recent thing, people from different ethnic backgrounds have been falling in love long before they started being represented in the media. Often there is little representation of people who are not 'white' and when they are being represented it is often in a negative way.
also gangsta rap keeps getting mentioned. You cannot say this represents the 'black' community. If the 'white' youth choose to listen to it then that is their choice no-one is forcing them. Early hip-hop was all about politics anyway, a way for misrepresented people to have a say, and it is not a recent development that 'white' people have had an interest in this genre of music either.
If ‘British culture’ is disappearing (cant seem to find where it was said so don’t remember the words used) then it is not because of other ethnic groups being in Britain, it is because British people have not held onto traditions you are associating with this culture. Please remember that culture is a fluid and flexible thing, it is always changing. British culture will inevitably change whoever it is that lives in this country, so maybe you are just afraid of change rather than multiculturalism.
Another thing is that when Britain went around invading other countries and making use of the people, their land and their resources, it was like an open invitation for them to come over here and an open door for multiculturalism. You want to enjoy the food and other aspects from other countries but you don't want to see the people?! how can that not be racist?
Oh and someone said something about the Muslim world being untouched by America. Well I would just like to say that Iran and its shah were actually very close to America. Why do you think there was an Islamic revolution and an overthrowing of the shah?! and then because of that America gave weapons and funds to Iraq to attack Iran. Also America will not trade with Iranian companies and looks down on those who might because of this. This is a quote from a document about a pipeline that Pakistan is considering ‘Indian sources admitted that both countries were under severe pressure from the US to reject the deal with Iran.’
heard of them the natives some europeans use to shoot for fun 
