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quote: Originally posted by QuinnDexter:
I do a lot of travelling and when I'm in a country which has different laws, views, religion, then I try to abide by those laws because I respect the way the country works.
Most muslims who come to this country or get born here, seem to think that it is their right to terraform this place into another middle eastern state, which in my opinion is totally wrong. Practise your religion and enjoy your god but please please stop shouting around saying that Islam is the the best thing since sliced bread and we all should worship Allah or Mr Mohammed.
At the end of the day Islam and the muslim faith has caused this planet more grief and more sorrow than anything. So with respect krymsk babe Islam affects us all. It's helped increase security in airports, it's helped push up the price of petrol, it's increased tensions around the world. made many of the nice muslims in the uk be filed under "potential terrorist".
Since the attack on our country by our "Muslim brothers" I now really have no time for ANY muslims, especially those who continue to defend their faith as a "Peacefull faith". I read an article on CNN a while back that the CIA were "Investigating the quoran" because they were convinced that it is infact a BOOK OF WAR. And some parts of it can be interpreted as a calling to fight off the infiedels.
Any religion which is used in this day and age to attack another country based on writings from someone who lived not in our century and therefore would not understand how our world works, should be banished from that country until they understand that human beings flourish by working together and not against each other.
You are truly terrorised, Tony Blair has done a GREAT job on you mate  Thank you. Namaste. Good Luck. ** BLACK HORSES TRUE AND ONLY FORUM WIFE!!** (I hate JATE and SATE threads and those stupid mills and boons wannabe stories) SLA  |
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quote: Originally posted by Lorenzo De La Cruz:
Well 600cc,
I think we're getting the civil disturbance on the side of the Islamonazis at the moment.
Will have to see what happens next.
I think you are right, we are told on the one hand we must be politically correct and accepot, then told that every Muslim is a danger to us by our wonderful government who isnt involved on a war against Islam  Its refreshing to see not everyone falls for the hype, well done mate. Please say you arent a Muslim, it would mean so much more if you arent  Thank you. Namaste. Good Luck. ** BLACK HORSES TRUE AND ONLY FORUM WIFE!!** (I hate JATE and SATE threads and those stupid mills and boons wannabe stories) SLA |
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quote: Originally posted by 600cc: quote: Originally posted by Lorenzo De La Cruz:
Well 600cc,
I think we're getting the civil disturbance on the side of the Islamonazis at the moment.
Will have to see what happens next.
Yes, of course. I'm stating the obvious: Islam is not a peace-loving religion. In fact most religions aren't peace-loving; most of them are a 'if you don't believe in me, you'll not half get it' sort of thing. Muslims should understand that most of us aren't interested in their point of view when it comes to the British culture if it means altering our way of life to accomodate their culture. I wouldn't disrespect Saudi culture were I unfortunate enough to live there. Ditto for Muzzies living here.
I dont think such narrow minded people as yourself and the wahabis should live anywhere. You are no better nor anymore tolerant and respectful of anyone else than they are Thank you. Namaste. Good Luck. ** BLACK HORSES TRUE AND ONLY FORUM WIFE!!** (I hate JATE and SATE threads and those stupid mills and boons wannabe stories) SLA |
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quote: Originally posted by EuanC:
If ye don't like it, don't ****in' watch it. it's that simple.
Islamonazis? Christ man, I had you pegged as an intelegent chap when I saw some of your earlier posts. Apparently not. Some strong generalisations there
BUGGER!! Did I misunderstand him? I thought he was on about white people acting like Nazis TOWARD Muslims when he said that  I agve him more credit than he was due OBVIOUSLY Thank you. Namaste. Good Luck. ** BLACK HORSES TRUE AND ONLY FORUM WIFE!!** (I hate JATE and SATE threads and those stupid mills and boons wannabe stories) SLA |
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quote: Originally posted by Lorenzo De La Cruz:
Unfortunately I'm an "infomaniac" I think is the term. I'm always looking for data, internet, television or newspapers.
My uncle works in the UAE and from a catholic family. They have to keep quiet as to the location of the next mass to get communion.
In Saudi Arabia,
there is no religious freedom and homosexuals are persecuted.
No freedom of the press and critics of the government are sometimes jailed for their views.
Women are not allowed to drive and their rights to property and divorce are restricted...oops...I think women are allowed to drive nowadays.
Funny really since some Saudi Prince actually gave money to have a mosque built in Britain for more understanding between religion???
For an "infomaniac" you sure are ignorant. I mean what kind of sources do you use? western ones? Way to get a blanced view and form a balanced opinion. There are some horrendous human rights issues in many Islamic countries, without doubt, but dont pin them on every single Muslim, do you even know whether they are of the same sect for example? Do you know how many sects of Islam there are? How can you tar them ALL with the same brush if you KNOW all of this? You will see that some types of Muslims (the more fanatical, extreme sects) wont even accept other (more moderate sects of) Muslims as being true Muslims. They see them as being as bad as westerners. Luckily this is a tiny minority MAINLY but not exclusivley based in places like Saudi. The man who lives nearest to yoou and is a Muslim, what sect does HE belong to? I bet you ahve no clue, yet you claim to know his mind by accusing him of being the same as the extremists? PURE IGNORANCE, PREJUDICE AND BIGOTRY, not informed opinion as you would have us believe Thank you. Namaste. Good Luck. ** BLACK HORSES TRUE AND ONLY FORUM WIFE!!** (I hate JATE and SATE threads and those stupid mills and boons wannabe stories) SLA |
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quote: Originally posted by krymsk babe: quote: Originally posted by Lorenzo De La Cruz:
Unfortunately I'm an "infomaniac" I think is the term. I'm always looking for data, internet, television or newspapers.
My uncle works in the UAE and from a catholic family. They have to keep quiet as to the location of the next mass to get communion.
In Saudi Arabia,
there is no religious freedom and homosexuals are persecuted.
No freedom of the press and critics of the government are sometimes jailed for their views.
Women are not allowed to drive and their rights to property and divorce are restricted...oops...I think women are allowed to drive nowadays.
Funny really since some Saudi Prince actually gave money to have a mosque built in Britain for more understanding between religion???
For an "infomaniac" you sure are ignorant. I mean what kind of sources do you use? western ones? Way to get a blanced view and form a balanced opinion. There are some horrendous human rights issues in many Islamic countries, without doubt, but dont pin them on every single Muslim, do you even know whether they are of the same sect for example? Do you know how many sects of Islam there are? How can you tar them ALL with the same brush if you KNOW all of this? You will see that some types of Muslims (the more fanatical, extreme sects) wont even accept other (more moderate sects of) Muslims as being true Muslims. They see them as being as bad as westerners. Luckily this is a tiny minority MAINLY but not exclusivley based in places like Saudi. The man who lives nearest to yoou and is a Muslim, what sect does HE belong to? I bet you ahve no clue, yet you claim to know his mind by accusing him of being the same as the extremists? PURE IGNORANCE, PREJUDICE AND BIGOTRY, not informed opinion as you would have us believe
I have lived in war torn country all of my life that is no reason why you should not watch the news because of Lebanon, surely it is very important to keep abreast of current affairs as it will serve you well in your argument. Another interesting point revealed in the news recently ( just in case you missed this to ) is that extremists in Lebanon are manipulating the news by carrying round the bodies of bomb victims long after the event anytime a camera is around as a form of propaganda.Secondly you earlier slated a forum member for being insulting while you have started one of your earlier replies on a different matter with " Shut up you wierdo " so that comment from you is rich. You have also said that forum member Quinndexter has been terrorised by Tony Blair, I think not Islam and Muslims have done that perfectly by themselves. You say the images from Lebanon where to horrific to look at so that is why you did not watch the news if I where to play devils advocate I could simply say as a women who married to Muslim your husband did not let you watch the News for fear you would be corrupted by the wetern media and form an oppinion of your own!!! |
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haha yeah but my husband beats me into posting on internet forums where my brain could be warped by people telling me "the truth" babe but takes the risk so I can get HIS message across , thats the funniest thing I read all day, thanks for cheering me up. He would LOVE to think he could get me to do anything You do him a great service in your ridiculous assumption Im just a highly sensative person who cannot stand to see some of the things Im faced with in the news, nothing wrong in that, im just overly sensative to the suffering of others not having been hardened I suppose by living in a war torn country, and never having experienced war in my life. I have been fortunate enough to grow up in the North East of England where the people are friendlier than anywhere else in the world You say you grew up in a war torn country all of your life. I suspect from that you mean you are Israeli perhaps, otherwise Im sure that the site of generations of Palestinian children growing up in a warzone would touch something in you. Thank you. Namaste. Good Luck. ** BLACK HORSES TRUE AND ONLY FORUM WIFE!!** (I hate JATE and SATE threads and those stupid mills and boons wannabe stories) SLA |
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quote: Originally posted by krymsk babe: haha yeah but my husband beats me into posting on internet forums where my brain could be warped by people telling me "the truth" babe but takes the risk so I can get HIS message across , thats the funniest thing I read all day, thanks for cheering me up. He would LOVE to think he could get me to do anything You do him a great service in your ridiculous assumption Im just a highly sensative person who cannot stand to see some of the things Im faced with in the news, nothing wrong in that, im just overly sensative to the suffering of others not having been hardened I suppose by living in a war torn country, and never having experienced war in my life. I have been fortunate enough to grow up in the North East of England where the people are friendlier than anywhere else in the world You say you grew up in a war torn country all of your life. I suspect from that you mean you are Israeli perhaps, otherwise Im sure that the site of generations of Palestinian children growing up in a warzone would touch something in you.
I have to hand to you krymsk babe you have a wicked sense of humour and are obviously a very strong women, which I am all for. I am not an Israeli I am from a little place not to far away from your own doorstep, and no its not the Isle of Man its a little place aswell called Northern Ireland. You have told me you have a mixed relationship as do I so I appreciate the difficulties people in our situation come across. My girlfriend like yourself is to a very sensitive person due to the effect the troubles have had on her life, her families life and the life of her friends and there families, I am fortunate enough not to have gone through what she has. As a result of this she is totally addicted to ceefax and the news so knows whats goning on in the world. Northern Ireland has had relative peace for the past couple of years but the scars still remain ( living here is still no picnic). It is still a very secular and sectarian society and I predict England will face the same problems as Ulster unless all the inhabitants of the UK integrate, hence my earlier comments eg, those who stick to there own leads to a large problem. The people of northern ireland have hopefully laid there demons to rest and I hope in the future we will not have to undergo similar unrest due to muslim extremists!!! Yo |
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quote: Originally posted by 600cc: quote: Originally posted by Lorenzo De La Cruz:
Well 600cc,
I think we're getting the civil disturbance on the side of the Islamonazis at the moment.
Will have to see what happens next.
Yes, of course. I'm stating the obvious: Islam is not a peace-loving religion. In fact most religions aren't peace-loving; most of them are a 'if you don't believe in me, you'll not half get it' sort of thing. Muslims should understand that most of us aren't interested in their point of view when it comes to the British culture if it means altering our way of life to accomodate their culture. I wouldn't disrespect Saudi culture were I unfortunate enough to live there. Ditto for Muzzies living here.
lol shows how little you know about Islam.....
"Walladhi Nafsi"
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quote: Originally posted by krymsk babe: quote: Originally posted by 600cc:
I'm stating the obvious: Islam is not a peace-loving religion. In fact most religions aren't peace-loving; most of them are a 'if you don't believe in me, you'll not half get it' sort of thing.
Muslims should understand that most of us aren't interested in their point of view when it comes to the British culture if it means altering our way of life to accomodate their culture.
I wouldn't disrespect Saudi culture were I unfortunate enough to live there. Ditto for Muzzies living here.
I dont think such narrow minded people as yourself and the wahabis should live anywhere. You are no better nor anymore tolerant and respectful of anyone else than they are
I have tolerance for those who abide by the laws of my culture. I am not interested in any other culture, other than purely 'academically'. If I wanted to imbibe any aspect of Islam, I'd move to Syria. I am not tolerant of Islam because it's not a tolerant religion/culture. It's oppressive, mysogynistic, homophobic, sexist and sadistic. If it were a religion, I wouldn't mind so much. But it's not - it's a way of life which is fundamentally incompatible with Western values. So I fear there will be trouble ahead. On the other hand, I can't wait - because we need to remind those who take advantage of our thusfar easygoing nature that should you stick your head too far into the lion's mouth, don't be surprised to get more than a headache. |
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quote: Originally posted by Nafs: quote: Originally posted by 600cc:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Lorenzo De La Cruz:
Yes, of course.
I'm stating the obvious: Islam is not a peace-loving religion. In fact most religions aren't peace-loving; most of them are a 'if you don't believe in me, you'll not half get it' sort of thing.
Muslims should understand that most of us aren't interested in their point of view when it comes to the British culture if it means altering our way of life to accomodate their culture.
I wouldn't disrespect Saudi culture were I unfortunate enough to live there. Ditto for Muzzies living here.
lol shows how little you know about Islam.....
And how would you know? Perhaps I know more than enough about Islam that its very name makes me sick. Most religions make me feel queasy, mind, but Islam is fundamentally inhuman, depicting an 'evil' approach to existence. The Jews started it with the Torah; the Christians, Catholics, Muslims, etc etc etc just made a bad lot far worse. And the worst of those is Islam. |
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quote: Originally posted by rayman: quote: Originally posted by krymsk babe: haha yeah but my husband beats me into posting on internet forums where my brain could be warped by people telling me "the truth" babe but takes the risk so I can get HIS message across , thats the funniest thing I read all day, thanks for cheering me up. He would LOVE to think he could get me to do anything You do him a great service in your ridiculous assumption Im just a highly sensative person who cannot stand to see some of the things Im faced with in the news, nothing wrong in that, im just overly sensative to the suffering of others not having been hardened I suppose by living in a war torn country, and never having experienced war in my life. I have been fortunate enough to grow up in the North East of England where the people are friendlier than anywhere else in the world You say you grew up in a war torn country all of your life. I suspect from that you mean you are Israeli perhaps, otherwise Im sure that the site of generations of Palestinian children growing up in a warzone would touch something in you.
I have to hand to you krymsk babe you have a wicked sense of humour and are obviously a very strong women, which I am all for. I am not an Israeli I am from a little place not to far away from your own doorstep, and no its not the Isle of Man its a little place aswell called Northern Ireland. You have told me you have a mixed relationship as do I so I appreciate the difficulties people in our situation come across. My girlfriend like yourself is to a very sensitive person due to the effect the troubles have had on her life, her families life and the life of her friends and there families, I am fortunate enough not to have gone through what she has. As a result of this she is totally addicted to ceefax and the news so knows whats goning on in the world. Northern Ireland has had relative peace for the past couple of years but the scars still remain ( living here is still no picnic). It is still a very secular and sectarian society and I predict England will face the same problems as Ulster unless all the inhabitants of the UK integrate, hence my earlier comments eg, those who stick to there own leads to a large problem. The people of northern ireland have hopefully laid there demons to rest and I hope in the future we will not have to undergo similar unrest due to muslim extremists!!! Yo
I think the case of Islam is immensely different. Islam is not just a religion, as many have said. It's a completely proscribed political and social existence in addition to religion. In Northern Ireland, simply, there were a couple of factions generally subscribing to similar social and religious mores, but differing 'only' in political intent. |
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quote: Originally posted by rayman: quote: Originally posted by krymsk babe: haha yeah but my husband beats me into posting on internet forums where my brain could be warped by people telling me "the truth" babe but takes the risk so I can get HIS message across , thats the funniest thing I read all day, thanks for cheering me up. He would LOVE to think he could get me to do anything You do him a great service in your ridiculous assumption Im just a highly sensative person who cannot stand to see some of the things Im faced with in the news, nothing wrong in that, im just overly sensative to the suffering of others not having been hardened I suppose by living in a war torn country, and never having experienced war in my life. I have been fortunate enough to grow up in the North East of England where the people are friendlier than anywhere else in the world You say you grew up in a war torn country all of your life. I suspect from that you mean you are Israeli perhaps, otherwise Im sure that the site of generations of Palestinian children growing up in a warzone would touch something in you.
I have to hand to you krymsk babe you have a wicked sense of humour and are obviously a very strong women, which I am all for. I am not an Israeli I am from a little place not to far away from your own doorstep, and no its not the Isle of Man its a little place aswell called Northern Ireland. You have told me you have a mixed relationship as do I so I appreciate the difficulties people in our situation come across. My girlfriend like yourself is to a very sensitive person due to the effect the troubles have had on her life, her families life and the life of her friends and there families, I am fortunate enough not to have gone through what she has. As a result of this she is totally addicted to ceefax and the news so knows whats goning on in the world. Northern Ireland has had relative peace for the past couple of years but the scars still remain ( living here is still no picnic). It is still a very secular and sectarian society and I predict England will face the same problems as Ulster unless all the inhabitants of the UK integrate, hence my earlier comments eg, those who stick to there own leads to a large problem. The people of northern ireland have hopefully laid there demons to rest and I hope in the future we will not have to undergo similar unrest due to muslim extremists!!! Yo
Amen to that last paragraph Alot of the problem is to do with clashing of cultures and some not wanting to integrate on both sides. i know of many people who dont like Muslims or Asian people (some stupidly see them as being interchangeable terms) Ive spent today catching up on various pieces of news (avoiding the troubles in Lebanon for piece of mind) the internet is a great place to be able to choose what news we read thankfully. I have to say with forthcoming travel plans (within the next two weeks actually) Im very frustrated, no actually Im outraged at what is happening. I cant travel without make up to hand but it seems Im forced to as Im not allowed to carry it. I cant carry snacks and drinks for my children (so am stuck with prices on the flight which will no doubt be rising to take FULL advantage of the situation). I cant even carry a bloody handbag or some electronic games to occupy my kids on a 4 and a half hour flight. Im concerned as much as Im angry about this, after all my flight is going TOWARDS the midddle East. The last Christian country before hitting an Islamic ME in fact, Cypress which as Im sure you are aware is very close to Iran. A great concern indeed but we will still go none the less. Im a bit of a cynic with our government though, as I am about the US goverment and I find it odd that though the threat was to transatlatic flights only (it appears from the info i have seen) that it was domestic and European flights that cancelled, US flights went ahead as planned, even the particular airline that was under threat from terrorists. Now that strikes me as odd. Is it that the US dont TRULY believe there was REAL danger yet our airlines based in Europe havent been told such a thing? Is it maybe that the terrorist threat is a smoke screen for many other activities going on around the world that our governments want to draw attention away from? I cant help being as cynical as I am sensative, its my nature. Just wonder what you make of those theories despite mad claims about me being forced to use the net and banned from watching tv news  I see you as of at least average intelligence and would be interested in your views Thank you. Namaste. Good Luck. ** BLACK HORSES TRUE AND ONLY FORUM WIFE!!** (I hate JATE and SATE threads and those stupid mills and boons wannabe stories) SLA |
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quote: Originally posted by 600cc: quote: Originally posted by Nafs: quote: Originally posted by 600cc:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Lorenzo De La Cruz:
Yes, of course.
I'm stating the obvious: Islam is not a peace-loving religion. In fact most religions aren't peace-loving; most of them are a 'if you don't believe in me, you'll not half get it' sort of thing.
Muslims should understand that most of us aren't interested in their point of view when it comes to the British culture if it means altering our way of life to accomodate their culture.
I wouldn't disrespect Saudi culture were I unfortunate enough to live there. Ditto for Muzzies living here.
lol shows how little you know about Islam.....
And how would you know? Perhaps I know more than enough about Islam that its very name makes me sick. Most religions make me feel queasy, mind, but Islam is fundamentally inhuman, depicting an 'evil' approach to existence. The Jews started it with the Torah; the Christians, Catholics, Muslims, etc etc etc just made a bad lot far worse. And the worst of those is Islam.
Well at least your hatred is equal for all Abrahamic based religions, thats gotta be a bonus you just hate all without prejudice FAir do's we cant all be without prejudice mores the pity Thank you. Namaste. Good Luck. ** BLACK HORSES TRUE AND ONLY FORUM WIFE!!** (I hate JATE and SATE threads and those stupid mills and boons wannabe stories) SLA |
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quote: Originally posted by 600cc: quote: Originally posted by krymsk babe: quote: Originally posted by 600cc:
I'm stating the obvious: Islam is not a peace-loving religion. In fact most religions aren't peace-loving; most of them are a 'if you don't believe in me, you'll not half get it' sort of thing.
Muslims should understand that most of us aren't interested in their point of view when it comes to the British culture if it means altering our way of life to accomodate their culture.
I wouldn't disrespect Saudi culture were I unfortunate enough to live there. Ditto for Muzzies living here.
I dont think such narrow minded people as yourself and the wahabis should live anywhere. You are no better nor anymore tolerant and respectful of anyone else than they are
I have tolerance for those who abide by the laws of my culture. I am not interested in any other culture, other than purely 'academically'. If I wanted to imbibe any aspect of Islam, I'd move to Syria. I am not tolerant of Islam because it's not a tolerant religion/culture. It's oppressive, mysogynistic, homophobic, sexist and sadistic. If it were a religion, I wouldn't mind so much. But it's not - it's a way of life which is fundamentally incompatible with Western values. So I fear there will be trouble ahead. On the other hand, I can't wait - because we need to remind those who take advantage of our thusfar easygoing nature that should you stick your head too far into the lion's mouth, don't be surprised to get more than a headache.
I just think you are perfectly within your rights to feel anyway you like about any rleigion, but people are individual and shouldnt be tarred with the same brush. Ive met people of all rleigions and none, some I liked and some I couldnt abide, could have stuck things in their eyes some of them, even some Muslims I have met (in particular hubbies family the swiiines but thats another story) the difference is, "they" arent all the same. You could have a laugh with my husband for example, you could talk to him for hours and never realise he is a Muslim. He is a good Muslim, he just doesnt bang on about it and isnt at all homophobic, or any of the other things you claim ALL Muslims to be. I know many Muslims like him, but I know many without religions who are complete Vankers too so I guess you take the good where you can find it and dont assume everyone is the same because they have one or two things like religion in common Thank you. Namaste. Good Luck. ** BLACK HORSES TRUE AND ONLY FORUM WIFE!!** (I hate JATE and SATE threads and those stupid mills and boons wannabe stories) SLA |
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quote: Originally posted by 600cc: quote: Originally posted by rayman: quote: Originally posted by krymsk babe: haha yeah but my husband beats me into posting on internet forums where my brain could be warped by people telling me "the truth" babe but takes the risk so I can get HIS message across , thats the funniest thing I read all day, thanks for cheering me up. He would LOVE to think he could get me to do anything You do him a great service in your ridiculous assumption Im just a highly sensative person who cannot stand to see some of the things Im faced with in the news, nothing wrong in that, im just overly sensative to the suffering of others not having been hardened I suppose by living in a war torn country, and never having experienced war in my life. I have been fortunate enough to grow up in the North East of England where the people are friendlier than anywhere else in the world You say you grew up in a war torn country all of your life. I suspect from that you mean you are Israeli perhaps, otherwise Im sure that the site of generations of Palestinian children growing up in a warzone would touch something in you.
I have to hand to you krymsk babe you have a wicked sense of humour and are obviously a very strong women, which I am all for. I am not an Israeli I am from a little place not to far away from your own doorstep, and no its not the Isle of Man its a little place aswell called Northern Ireland. You have told me you have a mixed relationship as do I so I appreciate the difficulties people in our situation come across. My girlfriend like yourself is to a very sensitive person due to the effect the troubles have had on her life, her families life and the life of her friends and there families, I am fortunate enough not to have gone through what she has. As a result of this she is totally addicted to ceefax and the news so knows whats goning on in the world. Northern Ireland has had relative peace for the past couple of years but the scars still remain ( living here is still no picnic). It is still a very secular and sectarian society and I predict England will face the same problems as Ulster unless all the inhabitants of the UK integrate, hence my earlier comments eg, those who stick to there own leads to a large problem. The people of northern ireland have hopefully laid there demons to rest and I hope in the future we will not have to undergo similar unrest due to muslim extremists!!! Yo
I think the case of Islam is immensely different. Islam is not just a religion, as many have said. It's a completely proscribed political and social existence in addition to religion. In Northern Ireland, simply, there were a couple of factions generally subscribing to similar social and religious mores, but differing 'only' in political intent.
The same could be said between Jews and Muslims in the ME. Its not ALL about religion, its about land and inequality in the way the people are treat. There are Jews as well as Christians and Muslims living in Lebanon for example who are signing up to Hezbollah since the acts of state terrorism began over there recently (according to the last news I seen anyway last week) Thank you. Namaste. Good Luck. ** BLACK HORSES TRUE AND ONLY FORUM WIFE!!** (I hate JATE and SATE threads and those stupid mills and boons wannabe stories) SLA |
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quote: Originally posted by 600cc: quote: Originally posted by krymsk babe:
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