Before I begin, I don't hate or dislike anyone, I think everyone is equal. I don't think someone's race or religion should matter unless they are a Islamist terrorist.
If Islamist terrorists never existed, don't exist and never will exist I wouldn't mind Muslims & middle-easterns being outiside the middle east but only because of Islamist terrorists. I don't think Muslims & middle-easterns should be allowed outside the middle east. I think this partly because of the London bombings on 7 July and the Madrid bombings on 11 March 2004. Partly because another bomb/s could've went off, or/and a bomb or bombs could be going off just now or/and a bomb or bombs could go off in the future. And partly because my girlfriend and I were sat on a tube train in London opposite two middle easterns and both of us were scared and suspicious that the two people could be bombers.
Using the same logic do you think westerners should never be allowed out of our own countries because of the mayhem and death our politicians and military have caused in so many other countries?
I mean, if we are really all equal, you'd have to apply your logic equally, wouldn't you?
Originally posted by livingitlarge: Before I begin, I don't hate or dislike anyone, I think everyone is equal. I don't think someone's race or religion should matter unless they are a Islamist terrorist.
so christian or jewish terrorists (for example) are OK ?
Originally posted by livingitlarge: Before I begin, I don't hate or dislike anyone, I think everyone is equal. I don't think someone's race or religion should matter unless they are a Islamist terrorist.
I don't think Muslims & middle-easterns should be allowed outside the middle east.
So, everyone who lives in the middle east should be treated as if they were a terrorist, whether or not they are. That would include the Jews and Christians who live there presumably. This constitutes treating everyone as equal, does it? I guess you are so ignorant you are unaware that more muslims live outside the middle east than in it. Countries with large or majority muslim populations include Pakistan, Indonesia, African countries such as Nigeria and Algeria, even Turkey and Albania. A significant number of Black Americans not of middle-eastern origin are also Muslim. The place where by a huge margin (200 million) has the most muslims is Indonesia, which I guess you need telling, is closer to Australia than the middle east.
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.. because my girlfriend and I were .. scared.
This is a suitable basis for deciding that all people from the middle east are terrorists is it?
Not sure if this question is aimed at me, but assuming it is, of course I would be upset, who wouldn't be. But, with respect, the hell does that have to do with the question. Demonising an entire religion/race increases the likelihood of attacks in this country. Indeed, rightly or wrongly, the 7/7 bombers justified their actions as a response to what we are doing.
I used to live in Saudi Arabia and regularly visit the middle east.
Most of the locals are pro-western. The actions you advocate would turn radical into extremists and moderates into radicals.
Care to answer the questions I asked you?
In particular, could you explain how it is possible to say both that someone's religion doesn't matter to you and then that all muslims should be confined to the middle east.
Originally posted by free_thinker: Not sure if this question is aimed at me, but assuming it is, of course I would be upset, who wouldn't be. But, with respect, the hell does that have to do with the question. Demonising an entire religion/race increases the likelihood of attacks in this country. Indeed, rightly or wrongly, the 7/7 bombers justified their actions as a response to what we are doing.
I used to live in Saudi Arabia and regularly visit the middle east.
Most of the locals are pro-western. The actions you advocate would turn radical into extremists and moderates into radicals.
Care to answer the questions I asked you?
In particular, could you explain how it is possible to say both that someone's religion doesn't matter to you and then that all muslims should be confined to the middle east.
There is a difference between Islamists and Islamist terrorists.
Originally posted by livingitlarge: There is a difference between Islamists and Islamist terrorists.
Indeed there is, but that distinction is pretty irrelevant when you then say: "I don't think Muslims & middle-easterns should be allowed outside the middle east".
Can't you see that with such a statement it is you who is failing to make the distinction and also failing to distinguish between christians/jews/atheists from the middle east and muslims, and failing to recognise that more muslims live outside the middle east than in it. A point I made earlier than you have yet to acknowledge.
Originally posted by livingitlarge: Before I begin, I don't hate or dislike anyone, I think everyone is equal. I don't think someone's race or religion should matter unless they are a Islamist terrorist.
If Islamist terrorists never existed, don't exist and never will exist I wouldn't mind Muslims & middle-easterns being outiside the middle east but only because of Islamist terrorists. I don't think Muslims & middle-easterns should be allowed outside the middle east. I think this partly because of the London bombings on 7 July and the Madrid bombings on 11 March 2004. Partly because another bomb/s could've went off, or/and a bomb or bombs could be going off just now or/and a bomb or bombs could go off in the future. And partly because my girlfriend and I were sat on a tube train in London opposite two middle easterns and both of us were scared and suspicious that the two people could be bombers.
Originally posted by livingitlarge: Before I begin, I don't hate or dislike anyone, I think everyone is equal. I don't think someone's race or religion should matter unless they are a Islamist terrorist.
If Islamist terrorists never existed, don't exist and never will exist I wouldn't mind Muslims & middle-easterns being outiside the middle east but only because of Islamist terrorists. I don't think Muslims & middle-easterns should be allowed outside the middle east. I think this partly because of the London bombings on 7 July and the Madrid bombings on 11 March 2004. Partly because another bomb/s could've went off, or/and a bomb or bombs could be going off just now or/and a bomb or bombs could go off in the future. And partly because my girlfriend and I were sat on a tube train in London opposite two middle easterns and both of us were scared and suspicious that the two people could be bombers.
THIS ISN'T MY VIEW ANY LONGER
What happened to make you change your mind?
What time is it, Mr Woolf? Time to mend your ways, for the end is nigh.
Originally posted by livingitlarge: Before I begin, I don't hate or dislike anyone, I think everyone is equal. I don't think someone's race or religion should matter unless they are a Islamist terrorist.
If Islamist terrorists never existed, don't exist and never will exist I wouldn't mind Muslims & middle-easterns being outiside the middle east but only because of Islamist terrorists. I don't think Muslims & middle-easterns should be allowed outside the middle east. I think this partly because of the London bombings on 7 July and the Madrid bombings on 11 March 2004. Partly because another bomb/s could've went off, or/and a bomb or bombs could be going off just now or/and a bomb or bombs could go off in the future. And partly because my girlfriend and I were sat on a tube train in London opposite two middle easterns and both of us were scared and suspicious that the two people could be bombers.
Originally posted by livingitlarge: I think the wearing of burqas should be banned
I think you need to be a bit more specific. Under certain circumstances it could be argued that they are inappropriate e.g. IMHO teaching; but what people do in their own homes is their business. But if they are going to be abused, as hoodies are, then yes, I would agree, in certain areas.
Originally posted by livingitlarge: I think the wearing of burqas should be banned
I think you need to be a bit more specific. Under certain circumstances it could be argued that they are inappropriate e.g. IMHO teaching; but what people do in their own homes is their business. But if they are going to be abused, as hoodies are, then yes, I would agree, in certain areas.
I think they shouold be banned completely an islamist terrorist could be wearing one with a bomb strapped to her/him self
Originally posted by livingitlarge: I think they shouold be banned completely an islamist terrorist could be wearing one with a bomb strapped to her/him self
As should all clothes, for precisely the same reason.
Originally posted by livingitlarge: I think they shouold be banned completely an islamist terrorist could be wearing one with a bomb strapped to her/him self
As should all clothes, for precisely the same reason.
burqas are worn by muslims, muslim terrorists are muslims
Originally posted by livingitlarge: burqas are worn by muslims, muslim terrorists are muslims
um, not all terrorists wear burqas. your rather limited and limiting idea wouldn't have prevented 9/11 or 7/7, or indeed any act of terrorism committed by say, the tamil tigers, or the IRA, or any other (non muslim) terrorist group.
but then, you don't actually seem interested in debate so much as proboking (aka trolling).
