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Originally posted by laugar:
SOMEONE FROM CHANNEL 4.

PLEASE COMMENT ON WHY YOU HAVE BLATANTLY TRIED TO DESTROY THIS ART?!

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Originally posted by jennifer27: As i feel that if you feel this so called "sport" is totally unacceptable, then there is something wrong with us.

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Originally posted by cgs:
In a way it is sad because you will all happily debate on this forum yet I doubt any of you who strongly oppose this will actually go and see what real training is about! This really was not a true representation of Muay Thai, just bad parenting and complete rule breaks

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Originally posted by Angelmouse2028:

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Originally posted by laugar:
SOMEONE FROM CHANNEL 4.

PLEASE COMMENT ON WHY YOU HAVE BLATANTLY TRIED TO DESTROY THIS ART?!

Art is something beautiful this was far from that

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Originally posted by Henzah:

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Originally posted by jennifer27: As i feel that if you feel this so called "sport" is totally unacceptable, then there is something wrong with us.

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Originally posted by cgs:
In a way it is sad because you will all happily debate on this forum yet I doubt any of you who strongly oppose this will actually go and see what real training is about! This really was not a true representation of Muay Thai, just bad parenting and complete rule breaks

cgs sums up quite succinctly.

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Originally posted by laugar:

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Originally posted by sian2892:

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Originally posted by laugar:

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Originally posted by sian2892:

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Originally posted by laugar:
Well done channel 4, you have helped to destroy martial arts as a practice. You did not try to interview any of the officials or other coaches or indeed other families participatingin in the sport to get a fuller picture of what goes on.

This program was aimed at people who have no clue about what goes on in the sport martial art world.

There is nothing but total control when children fight each other. They have so much padding on its virtually impossible to hurt each other.

Its clear from the clueless replies to the shocked masses that your job is done!

Its also clear that you too are clueless about what goes on. The editor has done a good job there on turning what goes on into barbaric fighting!

Well chosen families too! You know how to pick em!

LAUGAR please stop the blatant lying...its on film for gods sake man!!! (unless you have been hit in the head too often in which case I guess you can't help it)

1) There were interviews with the parents of some of the children involved. There was also footage of the parents committing offences under s5 of the public order act 1986 by repeatedly swearing at their own children in public... great parenting skills... they come across so well even when they know they are being filmed...I bet they are much sweeter off camera?!?!?!

2) If there is "total control" then why were there head and neck strikes in a 'No head strking fight'?

3)"They have so much padding on its virtually impossible to hurt each other". In one fight shown a child wore NO head protection...strikes to the head took place on many occasions.

4) The camera shows barbaric fighting between minors who are being encouraged by the people they look up to most in this world ie their parents to punch and kick another minor. The footage shows it. Are you saying these events did not happen as the footage shows?

5) Some of the families shown exhist within the highest levels of this sport at their age groups...

LAUGAR, before you think I have no idea what I am talking about I fought sucessfuly as a child and adult in both area and national champs. I now have two young boys who I would not encourage into fighting of any sort unless the situation dictated it. The reasons for this should be obvious to any parent, I do not want to see them hurt and do not want to seen them hurt another child.

See sense.

have you ever played football and hurt someone by sliding tackling them in the legs, not intentionally. It was an accident. You're not supposed to do that. But the game carried on regardless with a little telling off?

- you probably have.

incidently, were your area and national champs fought at full contact or was it freestyle / points fighting. Two very different things again. And depending on which one it was will have an effect on why you think like you do. And if im wrong then you must have ad some bad experiences!

I assume that you now retract your comment regarding "total control" as you agree that there are accidents and therfore it is not total control...several strikes worth in a fight involving minors...I was concerned that the parent complained enough about it post fight but did not pull their child from it whilst they still had a chance of a win....says it all really about the parents prioritys...

Genuinely going for a ball in football and punching at someone to their face whilst they are wearing no head protective equipment are completely differnt things. If kicked someone in the head during a football (no strikes to head aloud there) game I'd expect some serious fall out!!!

I notce that you did not answer have any answer to the parents behaviour, the lack of protective equip' despite your earlier comments etc.

I quit because their is/was no money in it.

if you read my other comments you will notice I have agreed with the masses that the behaviour is appauling.

With regards to the accidental slips it happens. They have to hit in the body, if the hands are raised to block it'll slip up. It showed 3 or 4 punches that hit the head in 5 rounds!

you didnt answer my question about the style you fought in!?

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Originally posted by laugar:

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Originally posted by Angelmouse2028:

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Originally posted by laugar:
SOMEONE FROM CHANNEL 4.

PLEASE COMMENT ON WHY YOU HAVE BLATANTLY TRIED TO DESTROY THIS ART?!

Art is something beautiful this was far from that

30 posts!

I agree, art is something beautfiul. This art is an art form of the body, as are all MA's.

It does look scrappy to the general public. But to us its an art. Take judo at the olympics, its just stocky blokes rolling round on the floor is it not? Nope!

Did you not see the child doing the weird dance in the ring? Thats tradition, respect honour right there. But you dont know about it. Go and look up the history of Muay Thai and have a read!

p.s. would you say "un made bed" as art? load of old coal id say!

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Originally posted by sian2892:

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Originally posted by laugar:

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Originally posted by sian2892:

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Originally posted by laugar:

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Originally posted by sian2892:

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Originally posted by laugar:
Well done channel 4, you have helped to destroy martial arts as a practice. You did not try to interview any of the officials or other coaches or indeed other families participatingin in the sport to get a fuller picture of what goes on.

This program was aimed at people who have no clue about what goes on in the sport martial art world.

There is nothing but total control when children fight each other. They have so much padding on its virtually impossible to hurt each other.

Its clear from the clueless replies to the shocked masses that your job is done!

Its also clear that you too are clueless about what goes on. The editor has done a good job there on turning what goes on into barbaric fighting!

Well chosen families too! You know how to pick em!

LAUGAR please stop the blatant lying...its on film for gods sake man!!! (unless you have been hit in the head too often in which case I guess you can't help it)

1) There were interviews with the parents of some of the children involved. There was also footage of the parents committing offences under s5 of the public order act 1986 by repeatedly swearing at their own children in public... great parenting skills... they come across so well even when they know they are being filmed...I bet they are much sweeter off camera?!?!?!

2) If there is "total control" then why were there head and neck strikes in a 'No head strking fight'?

3)"They have so much padding on its virtually impossible to hurt each other". In one fight shown a child wore NO head protection...strikes to the head took place on many occasions.

4) The camera shows barbaric fighting between minors who are being encouraged by the people they look up to most in this world ie their parents to punch and kick another minor. The footage shows it. Are you saying these events did not happen as the footage shows?

5) Some of the families shown exhist within the highest levels of this sport at their age groups...

LAUGAR, before you think I have no idea what I am talking about I fought sucessfuly as a child and adult in both area and national champs. I now have two young boys who I would not encourage into fighting of any sort unless the situation dictated it. The reasons for this should be obvious to any parent, I do not want to see them hurt and do not want to seen them hurt another child.

See sense.

have you ever played football and hurt someone by sliding tackling them in the legs, not intentionally. It was an accident. You're not supposed to do that. But the game carried on regardless with a little telling off?

- you probably have.

incidently, were your area and national champs fought at full contact or was it freestyle / points fighting. Two very different things again. And depending on which one it was will have an effect on why you think like you do. And if im wrong then you must have ad some bad experiences!

I assume that you now retract your comment regarding "total control" as you agree that there are accidents and therfore it is not total control...several strikes worth in a fight involving minors...I was concerned that the parent complained enough about it post fight but did not pull their child from it whilst they still had a chance of a win....says it all really about the parents prioritys...

Genuinely going for a ball in football and punching at someone to their face whilst they are wearing no head protective equipment are completely differnt things. If kicked someone in the head during a football (no strikes to head aloud there) game I'd expect some serious fall out!!!

I notce that you did not answer have any answer to the parents behaviour, the lack of protective equip' despite your earlier comments etc.

I quit because their is/was no money in it.

if you read my other comments you will notice I have agreed with the masses that the behaviour is appauling.

With regards to the accidental slips it happens. They have to hit in the body, if the hands are raised to block it'll slip up. It showed 3 or 4 punches that hit the head in 5 rounds!

you didnt answer my question about the style you fought in!?

I fought free style when I began as I had originally come from a groud work background as a very young child and began to move to mixed as I got older.
Why did the parents not pull their un-padded child from the bout after the first, second or even thord blow they felt was deliberately high??? There is only one answer, they were not acting in the childs/childrens best interests. As one of the few ambassadors for this on here I hope you cannot honestly say that if you felt there were deliberate high blows to your childs un protected head then you would not pull them?
The parents and oficials involved have done this sport immense damage by their neglect of the interests of those actually taking part. I have to say I watched this hoping for a different program as I know how much training helped me grow up but was saddened to see the way this MA has 'progressed'.

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Originally posted by jennifer27:My father in law is a 7th DAN i have been to watch tornaments and the level of violence is not on the same scale at all. So no that comment was not very fitting for me as i have been to see the sports before

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Sorry i thought that what this forum was about?

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Originally posted by laugar:I can see no wrong in the refs decisions. The kid chose not to fight in a head guard.

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Originally posted by Henzah:

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Originally posted by laugar:I can see no wrong in the refs decisions. The kid chose not to fight in a head guard.

Lauger, that ref did a rubbish job! That child should never have even been ALLOWED in the ring without headgear, and the very first head strike should have been dealt with immediately. Poor poor refereeing.

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Originally posted by laugar:
Anyhoo, my point has been well and truly made now!

So i must bid you all farewell and hope you who do not understand will take the time to have a look at some information regarding thaiboxing to open your eyes a little more.

peace and love to everyone!

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Originally posted by laugar:as long as that love has been sent with a spinng side kick. lmao!

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Originally posted by Henzah:

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Originally posted by laugar:as long as that love has been sent with a spinng side kick. lmao!

No no! Spinning back elbow onlyyyyyyyy *bok*

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Originally posted by Angelmouse2028:
Good night jennifer27 1 of few to speak sense, before I go to bed though I will email channel 4 to do a doc on the high risks of swimming lessons lmao

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Originally posted by jennifer27:

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Originally posted by Angelmouse2028:
Good night jennifer27 1 of few to speak sense, before I go to bed though I will email channel 4 to do a doc on the high risks of swimming lessons lmao

Good night, Please do so, i would be really interested in seeing the comparison of swimming and fighting 5 year olds

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Originally posted by laugar:

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Originally posted by jennifer27:

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Originally posted by Angelmouse2028:
Good night jennifer27 1 of few to speak sense, before I go to bed though I will email channel 4 to do a doc on the high risks of swimming lessons lmao

Good night, Please do so, i would be really interested in seeing the comparison of swimming and fighting 5 year olds

argggh I cant sleep.

What about a documentary of 5 year olds fightin underwater?

The bonus being they cannot hear their illiterate parents screaming obsceneties at them!!!???