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Originally posted by laugar:as long as that love has been sent with a spinng side kick. lmao!

No no! Spinning back elbow onlyyyyyyyy *bok*

Good night jennifer27 1 of few to speak sense, before I go to bed though I will email channel 4 to do a doc on the high risks of swimming lessons lmao

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Originally posted by Henzah:

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Originally posted by laugar:as long as that love has been sent with a spinng side kick. lmao!

No no! Spinning back elbow onlyyyyyyyy *bok*

lol, ha ha ha!
one of them might help me sleep right now!

goodnight all!

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Originally posted by Angelmouse2028:
Good night jennifer27 1 of few to speak sense, before I go to bed though I will email channel 4 to do a doc on the high risks of swimming lessons lmao

Good night, Please do so, i would be really interested in seeing the comparison of swimming and fighting 5 year olds

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Originally posted by jennifer27:

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Originally posted by Angelmouse2028:
Good night jennifer27 1 of few to speak sense, before I go to bed though I will email channel 4 to do a doc on the high risks of swimming lessons lmao

Good night, Please do so, i would be really interested in seeing the comparison of swimming and fighting 5 year olds

argggh I cant sleep.

What about a documentary of 5 year olds fightin underwater?

The bonus being they cannot hear their illiterate parents screaming obsceneties at them!!!???

And that's all i was trying to say. This is not a true representation of Muay Thai. Just a representation of bad parenting and bad refereeing.[/QUOTE]

thank you, you are far less agressive than many on the forum!

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Originally posted by laugar:

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Originally posted by jennifer27:

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Originally posted by Angelmouse2028:
Good night jennifer27 1 of few to speak sense, before I go to bed though I will email channel 4 to do a doc on the high risks of swimming lessons lmao

Good night, Please do so, i would be really interested in seeing the comparison of swimming and fighting 5 year olds

argggh I cant sleep.

What about a documentary of 5 year olds fightin underwater?

The bonus being they cannot hear their illiterate parents screaming obsceneties at them!!!???

take some nytol :-)

Well today i watched this. I thought it was terrible. What are these children going to turn out like when they are older. Me and two of my friends watched this today and we are all 17 and thought that todays programme was disturbing. 10 year old boys fighting. Why? Is it something they wanted to do or what the parents wanted them to do? By the way the parents were shouting and swearing at the children it made us think that the parents were pushing them. I think it was horrible.

Hey guys,
I am 18 and was fighting at some of the events which you saw footage of tonight. I have studied and trained for 4 years and would say Im from a middle class background. I've have seen the parents and the kids fight with my own eyes.... 2nd of July 2007 Eynesford, Kent. Even though Connor and Thai are brilliant competetors their parents are a disgrace to our honourable art whos roots are built around discipline and self control; What we saw tonight was undoubtably wrong.
Even though cliche, I felt the need to back my sport which has become a way of life over time.... I train at a club in the South East, which has around 20 children training on different levels where we children SHOULD be allowed to train and compete, yet not FORCED as was shown on many occasions. Disclamers are featured in all full contact sports.... yet i'm not going to lie, Muay Thai is the most brutal martial art. It is tradition in Thailand and is taught to nearly every boy in every household from a young age starting millenias ago for the purposes to fight invading armies. It is not for the faint hearted.

What we have seen tonight was an disgusting example of pushy, bad parenting on extreme levels which is bad but happens in every sport... i experienced it playing tennis in my younger years.

I also advise the minority of you to avoid jumping to conclusions before you see both sides to this rather biased documentry.

Thanks, sUB.

2nd June 2007*

im stunned that people find this shocking in 2008 Britain!! This country is rife with idiots you have seen this evening. But these sorts of parents are rife in all sport. many have delusions of granduer and think there little jonny is going to be the next beckham and make them millions!!! its saddens me to think people will exploit there own children in this way, children are a privalage not some way of getting you early retirment!!!!

Thank goodness we have some people posting here like SUB who know what they are talking about. I read some rubbish from concernedcitizen and a few parents, and the rubbish they spouted about child abuse infuriated me.
I am 19, I wish i could have done thai boxing when i was little but my parents would never have allowed it. Although some of the kids like Thai are forced, most of these kids clearly love what they are doing and the matches are sanctioned. This is an example of why Britain has such great boxers. The kids are trained at a young age so the proper use of aggression and confidence can be taught. I envy those that have talent like this. I pity those who call this 'child abuse.'

Please don’t waste your pity on those of us calling this child abuse. Pity the children who are being abused.

I accept there are those of you on here that know more about Thai boxing and accept you defending it. Most seem to say that what we saw last night was NOT a fair and true representation. But you have to accept there are those of us on here who know what child abuse is and have studied the effects of it, which I have through my profession.

Two things were represented last night. The sport (unfairly maybe) and the behaviour of the parents. Although I hate boxing of any kind I accept I know nothing about Thai boxing. But I DO know that the REPEATED unfair, unkind and often nasty treatment of those kids concerned me greatly.

So perhaps those of you so keen to defend the programme could stop long enough to consider whether you can keep on ignoring that issue JUST so you can defend a sport you love so much.

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The NSPCC have formally complained to OFCOM (Office of Communications) about the content of this programme and have voiced concerns over the safety and emotional wellbeing of the children who appear in the programme. OFCOM are the regulatory body and have set rules, guidelines and standards of acceptability that all broadcasters have to adhere to. OFCOM have reassured the NSPCC that they will be monitoring the programme in light of our concerns.

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The NSPCC have formally complained to OFCOM (Office of Communications) about the content of this programme and have voiced concerns over the safety and emotional wellbeing of the children who appear in the programme. OFCOM are the regulatory body and have set rules, guidelines and standards of acceptability that all broadcasters have to adhere to. OFCOM have reassured the NSPCC that they will be monitoring the programme in light of our concerns.

Thank goodness

Why are people so disgusted at this? Personally I do not understand, children are taught from young ages to do every sport, i'd expect the same to be happening in boxing also but you really can't compare the two sports. [I DO NOT THINK FIVE YEAR OLD SHOULD FIGHTING] But surely a 10 year old by now would be able to make a choice if he never wanted to do it.


What I see is the parents haven't actually taught their children to have respect for the sport and skills they are learning, or they just didn't show those parts as I have noticed with CHANNEL4 that only 1 side is shown on most documentaries and news reports.

Do not forget CHANNEL4 is PROPAGANDA MACHINE, who knows what they filmed and what they edited out, the fact is on the filming they were having fights and there will always be build up to fights like this, did Calzaghe not say he was going to knock out Hopkins at the weekend and all the intimidation going on at the weigh ins.



What they showed is that the parents were teaching their children to use Muay Thai as a gateway to fame and money. Which I find is a sad reflection on modern life where we are surrounded by celebrities and their fame and glamour.

It is a dangerous society we live in and skills like this need to be learned and not used in situations which can be avoided ie that Connor kid hitting someone at school over some stupidity likely.



Contact sports take skill if your going to rise to the top.

I have no idea how or why the social services have not paid any of these families in last nights documentary a visit.
I found the parents of that poor little girl the most disturbing pair Ive ever seen.The childobviously DID NOT want to get into that ring and fihgt and yet they pushed her into it. What an ugly ignorant pair they are, some people shouldnt be allowed to be parents.
That litle gilr is gonna grow up to be one of those girls who is always in fights and in and out of jail all her life.

I run a kickboxing club I have fought trained and refereed. I train under the British Kickboxing rules and everything in the cutting edge programe is against what we are trying to do. We do not force children to fight we will not allow them to compete under the age of six. When I am refereeing I will not have parents screaming at the children I will not allow swearing from parents or trainers and I will not allow heavy contact. For the childerrn we make it fun. As for taking your child to Thailand to fight in what is basicly a full contact fight is wrong, if they are over sixteen no problem. That guy was just trying to make his son into some thing he failed at.

Great TV - really watchable. It was only the parents who were out of hand - take them out of the equation and I could n't really see a problem. I don't think the children should be able to fight without headgear etc.

There's plenty of parents i know who are the same except they do it with academic work or football or swimming. Same type of parent trying to mould their child into perceived success.

i am a 27 year old female who has trained in thai boxin for 4 years, my daughter who is 7 has trained in thai boxin for 2 and a half years(in a well manored gym) .The program last night shocked me as how can a child 10 years of age take responsability of injury or death to onother child with a kick to the head (as there parents have signed for it)?I have been to many fights and have never seen anything like that with kids ,my daughter spars ALAWYS with a head guard and rest of kit and no head shots as im responsible for my daughter and if and when she wants to fight i will b in her corner with pride and not shoutin do him/her.