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I did some research using the official figures from the american governments statistics :

http://www.state.gov/s/ct/rls/pgtrpt/

The government and the media don’t tell us that the greatest change in the way we live, the way our freedoms have been curtailed, the way we fear the unknown, the way we demonise Islam and Muslims is entirely due to their propaganda machinery. They don’t tell us that our way of life and our democracy is under threat by the 3000 plus police laws that have been enacted by our elected government. Elected by 20% of those eligible to vote.

Of course we all know that Tony Blair had been forewarned of the probable increased threat of terrorism against the UK by intelligence agencies if he decided to enter into the conflict against Iraq. He was forewarned 12 months prior to the 7/7 attacks that there was a linkage between the illegal occupation of Iraq and the radicalisation of some of Britain’s Muslim youth. The government alone stubbornly fails to acknowledge the obvious linkage. It much prefers to blame Islam and Muslims. It much prefers the focus to be anywhere but itself. The news media with its vested interests are only too happy to oblige in the daily process of this demonisation.

What is the real worldwide threat?

It appears despite the hyperbole of our government ministers , our prime minister and news media, none are prepared to detail the numbers of actual attacks and deaths against the imagined or perceived threat so detailed by this government.

The American administration very helpfully reports the significant terror acts year on year and its Patterns of Global Terrorism reports are readily available to anyone that has access to the internet.

The following is what we can discover if one takes the time to consider its content.
[Note: terror attacks might be pipelines as they might be people, there is no differention in the total collated figures stated here.]

Between the years 1984 and 1987 we find that the number of significant terror attacks peaked with 666 attacks in 1986 . Post 1987 we find a steady decline in worldwide terror attacks averaging 400 by the year 2000, 405 persons were killed. 152 attacks were as a result of bombings of a multinational oil pipeline in Colombia .

The period of 1981 to 1984 worldwide terror attacks amounted to an average of 400 (in the year 2000 we find that there were 426 attacks) .

Approximately 80% of all attacks have been directed at Business (accounting for 66%), government , diplomats and the military. 20% of attacks are targeted at what is described as ’other’.

In the year 2001 there were 355 attacks worldwide, 291 anti American and 191 of those took place in Latin America.

At time of publication the report declared 2689 Americans killed with a worldwide total figure of 3572. (The 2001 figures include the 9/11 attacks) . One hundred seventy-eight of the attacks were bombings against a multinational oil pipeline in Columbia constituting 51 % of the year’s total number of attacks.

In the year 2002 the worldwide number of attacks amounted to 198 and in total 727 people died as a result of those attacks. The reports show that out of the 727 people that were killed , 27 were American citizens .

In the year 2003 the worldwide number of attacks amounted to 208 and in total 625 people died . 82 attacks were considered to be anti American, of those 46 took place in Latin America and 11 in mid east . American deaths amounted to 35 as a result of those attacks.

In the year 2004 the worldwide number of attacks amounted to 651 attacks and in total 1907 people died. 64 attacks were directed American assets. 62 of the victims were American citizens . We are told for the first time that suicide attacks accounted for 3% of the attacks.

In 2005 a chronology of terror events was released by the National Counter Terrorism Center. The format of the report has been changed from those that of previous years. In the year 2005 the world wide number of incidents amounted to 11,111 and incidents resulting in death, injury, or kidnapping of at least one individual 8,016 (a minimum of 5,131 deaths is reported). Incidents resulting in the death of zero individuals out of the 11,111 attacks is 5,980. American deaths amounted to 56.

What do we learn from these figures ? We learn 2001 killing was a unique act in terms of a threat on American soil. We learn that in many cases the threat is as likely to be from Latin America as it is from the Mid East. What we learn is that American citizens are no more likely to die pre 2001 as they are post 2001 through acts of terrorism. We learn that the level of terrorism has increased with our interventions across the world. That is war creates unhappy individuals.

We learn that between 2001 and 2004 the number of worldwide deaths from all acts of terrorism is approximately 6600 , if we include the 2005 figures despite the changed format it amounts to approximately 11,700. That is out of a world population of 6 billion people 11,700 people died as a result of terror attacks.

In the UK 3500 people died as a result of traffic accidents last year, this year and each year since 2001 , that’s 17,500 innocent people to 2005.

Israel since the onset of the second intifada has killed an estimated 4500 Palestinians (2005-6), it has killed 1100 Lebanese in 34 days of war . In Iraq the latest (2005-6) independent survey estimates 128,000 deaths as a result of our war against WMDs, in Afghanistan it is estimated that upwards of 30, 000 individuals have been killed (2005-6).

Last year (2005) 53 UK citizens died as a result of a terrorist act on British soil. 56 Americans have been killed worldwide.

Whose debate is it and who is defining who the terrorists are ?

Whose World Order and whose Values are under threat, and being brutally denied, ours or those who we have subjugated through lies and deceits ?
 
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500 Terror Attacks in EU in 2006

Almost all the terrorist attacks in the European Union in 2006 were unrelated to 'Islamist' terror.

According to a report released Tuesday by Europol, the European Union's law enforcement organization, 498 attacks were carried out in the EU in 2006.The vast majority of terrorist attacks were carried out by separatist terror groups targeting France and Spain.

Of them, only one was perpetrated by 'Islamist' terrorists.
 
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Europol: Terrorism Situation and Trend Report

Europol released "Terrorism Situation and Trend Report," which provides an overview of terrorist activity in the European Union in 2007.

Terrorists carried out—or attempted to carry out—583 attacks last year, a 24 percent increase from the previous year.

Most terrorist attacks were claimed or attributed to separatist groups in the Basque country, Spain (Euskadi Ta Askatasuna, or ETA), or in Corsica, France (Fronte di Liberazione Naziunale di a Corsica, or FLNC). ETA and FLNC were responsible for 517 attacks, constituting 88 percent of all terrorist actions. Arrests among separatist groups were also responsible for the large increase in arrests in the European Union (EU) in 2007. Spain saw a seven-fold increase in arrested suspects compared to 2006, while France registered a 68 percent increase. In total, arrests among separatist groups represented more than half of the total arrests.

Islamist terrorism was statistically much less significant. Only four attacks were recorded: Two failed bombings in the United Kingdom (the Glasgow attacks), and two foiled plots in Germany (the Sauerland cell) and Denmark (the Glasvej case).

The number of arrests could indicate a general decrease in jihadi activities.
 
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Good posts Wendy.It just goes to show on such presumed minimal evidence "our leaders" really have suceeded to "re-order" our western way of life.
It also seems the Madrid bombing convictions have been mostly overturned recently,but the media will conveniently miss that story.

Operation Gladio is really worth a google to see how this strategy of tension works.

gb


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'Common Purpose'

"The people will believe what the media tells them they believe." George Orwell
 
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Originally posted by Greying Blonde:
Good posts Wendy.It just goes to show on such presumed minimal evidence "our leaders" really have suceeded to "re-order" our western way of life.
It also seems the Madrid bombing convictions have been mostly overturned recently,but the media will conveniently miss that story.

Operation Gladio is really worth a google to see how this strategy of tension works.

gb


and how many failed?

I have 30 in the last year.

in the UK.

Nic
 
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"Dissident Irish republicans are more active than any other terrorist group in the UK, according to the latest British intelligence service surveillance.

MI5 data indicates that organisations such as the Real IRA and the Continuity IRA currently posed a greater danger than Islamic extremists, according to a report in The Guardian newspaper."

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2008/0728/breaking24.htm
http://ukpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5h39UlIl7Oy3GH5HWumhiNzSY_08g
http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/newsdesk,1204,northern-ir...d-terror-fears,37136
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/jul/28/northernireland.uksecurity
 
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quote:
Originally posted by Tequila_nic:
quote:
Originally posted by Greying Blonde:
Good posts Wendy.It just goes to show on such presumed minimal evidence "our leaders" really have suceeded to "re-order" our western way of life.
It also seems the Madrid bombing convictions have been mostly overturned recently,but the media will conveniently miss that story.

Operation Gladio is really worth a google to see how this strategy of tension works.

gb


and how many failed?

I have 30 in the last year.

in the UK.

Nic


You have not addressed my point,nic?

Could you put those incidents up here,with the apropriate "facts" pertaining to those incidents?

Alternatively, you could attempt to address the points made by both Wendy, and sally?


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'Common Purpose'

"The people will believe what the media tells them they believe." George Orwell
 
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quote:
Originally posted by Greying Blonde:
quote:
Originally posted by Tequila_nic:
quote:
Originally posted by Greying Blonde:
Good posts Wendy.It just goes to show on such presumed minimal evidence "our leaders" really have suceeded to "re-order" our western way of life.
It also seems the Madrid bombing convictions have been mostly overturned recently,but the media will conveniently miss that story.

Operation Gladio is really worth a google to see how this strategy of tension works.

gb


and how many failed?

I have 30 in the last year.

in the UK.

Nic


You have not addressed my point,nic?

Could you put those incidents up here,with the apropriate "facts" pertaining to those incidents?

Alternatively, you could attempt to address the points made by both Wendy, and sally?



I'll let MI5 do it for me

quote:
The MI5 authors stress that the most pressing current threat is from Islamist extremist groups who justify the use of violence "in defence of Islam"


http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/aug/20/uksecurity.terrorism1

Nic
 
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quote:
Originally posted by Tequila_nic:
quote:
Originally posted by Greying Blonde:
quote:
Originally posted by Tequila_nic:
quote:
Originally posted by Greying Blonde:
Good posts Wendy.It just goes to show on such presumed minimal evidence "our leaders" really have suceeded to "re-order" our western way of life.
It also seems the Madrid bombing convictions have been mostly overturned recently,but the media will conveniently miss that story.

Operation Gladio is really worth a google to see how this strategy of tension works.

gb


and how many failed?

I have 30 in the last year.

in the UK.

Nic


You have not addressed my point,nic?

Could you put those incidents up here,with the apropriate "facts" pertaining to those incidents?

Alternatively, you could attempt to address the points made by both Wendy, and sally?



I'll let MI5 do it for me

quote:
The MI5 authors stress that the most pressing current threat is from Islamist extremist groups who justify the use of violence "in defence of Islam"


http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/aug/20/uksecurity.terrorism1

Nic


i suspect that the report in the guardian from the above post relates to 'muslim' activists not every variety of activists across all groups in the uk such as ira et al.

i think that there is a misreading by nic (wrt the quote)in the sense that it is relating solely to the different groups that are radicalised by british foreign policy in the middle east .

" far from being Islamist fundamentalists, most are religious novices. Nor, the analysis says, are they "mad and bad".

"The security service also plays down the importance of radical extremist clerics,"


however -

"Up to 60% of all the security services' electronic intercepts - phonetaps and other covert technical operations - have come from dissidents, despite the threat posed by hundreds of suspected Islamist extremists on the mainland."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/jul/28/northernireland.uksecurity


i suspect that the report in the guardian from post relates to 'muslim' activists not on the whole variety of activists across all groups.
 
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The MI5 authors stress that the most pressing current threat is from Islamist extremist groups who justify the use of violence "in defence of Islam"

where is this quote?
 
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Originally posted by sally121:
The MI5 authors stress that the most pressing current threat is from Islamist extremist groups who justify the use of violence "in defence of Islam"

where is this quote?


a more interesting quote

"MI5 says there is evidence that a well-established religious identity actually protects against violent radicalisation."
 
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quote:
Originally posted by sally121:
quote:
Originally posted by sally121:
The MI5 authors stress that the most pressing current threat is from Islamist extremist groups who justify the use of violence "in defence of Islam"

where is this quote?


a more interesting quote

"MI5 says there is evidence that a well-established religious identity actually protects against violent radicalisation."


So you found the quote then.

Nic
 
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