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1) Dravid has now the best test average (58.75) in 9K test runs club (Lara, Border, Steve Waugh, SRT, Sunny Gavaskar and Dravid himself)and the next best in terms of average (SRT, 55.39) is good 3-odd runs behind him.

2) His away average is now 65-odd, almost 14 runs more than his home average, I doubt many batsmen in World cricket would've this much disparity (positive) in their home and away records.

3) He now averages almost 79 in the tests India has won.

4) He now averages almost 61 in the test series India has won.
 
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Some accolades Dravid received after Jamaica test,

History would show that he (Dravid) is one of the best players for anyone, forget about India.

It takes difficult conditions for the cream to come to the top. He came to the top in this game (at Sabina Park) and we needed him because he was the best equipped player to deal with the situation.


-- Greg Chappell, Indian coach.

He (Dravid) is a dedicated team man and it was only fitting that his contribution in his team's win was substantial. He had the will and the technique at his command to prevail over the circumstances. He was a clear choice for individual honours by a long margin.

-- Michael Holding, former West Indian fast bowler.

Dravid is a pretty big snag, a pretty big wall. You don't get an average of 58 plus for nothing. His technique is very good, he plays the ball very late and watches it as late as possible.

-- Bennett King, West Indies coach.
 
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Dravid only needs improve his captaincy a bit.

I particularly liked the way he has encouraged his young, inexperienced pace bowlers. I hope he gets better in field placing and do not give long spells to Munaf which has redused his pace considerably.
 
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This is a nice article on Dravid and his great efforts!
 
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Standing on guard

Siddhartha Vaidyanathan

July 5, 2006

In 1971, when India last won a Test series in the Caribbean, Lord Relator composed a calypso specifically for that series with the constant refrain, "It was Gavaskar, the real master, just like a wall, we couldn't out Gavaskar at all; not at all, you know the West Indies couldn't out Gavaskar at all." Thirty five years later, when India triumphed in the West Indies, you could sing the same calypso and just interchange Gavaskar with Dravid. He might not have made the mountain of runs that Gavaskar manged, but Dravid, throughout the series, was outstanding. In the final Test at Kingston he was plain awesome.

With the series on the line, on a dodgy track against outstanding bowling, he delivered. On a surface where nobody appeared at home, he pitched a tent. When asked about Dravid's twin fifties, Brian Lara said he hadn't seen the like. Dravid himself admitted that they were two of his best innings. For technique, application and determination, you may struggle to find two such performances in a Test.

The first morning was a struggle. Dravid could manage only 13 off 69 balls, in a session where 29 runs were scored at exactly a run an over. The ball was seaming off the pitch, bouncing awkwardly and stopping on the batsmen. None of this fazed Dravid. He read the length early, got fully back or fully forward and, most importantly, played late. When in trouble, he loosened the grip on the bottom hand. In a setting where the rest of the batsmen were exposed, Dravid thrived.

The second innings was a masterclass. He came out more positive and made light of the variable bounce that was undoing all the others. Staggeringly, he looked in trouble just once and didn't hesitate to play his strokes at the slightest opportunity. He appeared a bit more intense as well - exaggerating his defence just a bit more and leaving with complete authority. Until he got a shooter from Corey Collymore, the lack of bounce hardly appeared to matter as Dravid's masterful technique came to the fore.

Dravid has played such innings in the past - 148 at Headingley , in mid 2002, made under leaden skies with the ball jagging around; and 76 at Wellington , in late 2002, made on a juicy pitch against the swinging ball. Yet, with all factors considered, these two fifties will probably be two of his best efforts in a Test. For examples of captains' innings, look no further.

What they say

"His batting throughout the series has been excellent. He led by example, I spoke to him after his innings and I don't think I have seen a better innings, or two innings put together, on such a surface." - Brian Lara's view on the two innings.

What he says

"These couple of innings are probably two of the best I have played. It gave me a lot of satisfaction. It was not an easy wicket to bat, you needed a bit of luck, you are going to get beaten a few times, and you may nick one early on. One of the keys on this wicket is to get fully forward and fully back, to play as late as possible and with soft hands."

What you may not know

When Dravid was dismissed in the first innings, caught behind off Collymore, he wasn't mopping about the ball he got. Instead he said he hadn't got fully forward and needed to have done better.

What the future holds

There is already a case for calling Dravid the greatest Indian batsman of all time. He's scored in all conditions, under all opposition and that too consistently. Even with the pressures of captaincy, he's managed eleven 50-plus scores in 12 Tests. A few more years of this and there will be a case of calling him one of the greatest batsmen of all time. The next year-and-a-half will be crucial as India test themselves against the might of South Africa, England and Australia, all away from home.

Siddhartha Vaidyanathan is staff writer of Cricinfo
 
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Any word from HJ?

Surely this effort proves the value of patience.
 
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Maybe Moh, maybe Pon????
 
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I do not know how can anyone drag Dravid down! You should have seen that final match---no other batsman was equipped enough to handle that snorter of the pitch!!! It was a tremendous effort!!
 
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Surely this effort proves the value of patience.

Without a doubt.

And his biggest characteristic came to the fore when he blamed himself, but not the pitch for his dismissal.

BTW Salim, what do you want to say about Lara's outburst on WI selectors and curator of Jamaica pitch?
 
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I wasn't dragging him down. Merely suggesting that HJ would.

BTW, Happy BD for the other day, many happy returns.
 
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I think it was fair to ask for the team that he wants. No harm in that.

No comment on the pitch. It hasn't even been a decade since the debabcle against England when player's lives were in danger, literally.

But the series loss may prove a positive. Lara's days in test cricket are numbered, I'm afraid.

He no longer looks the part. His scores are coming far too infrequently and maybe it was a bad decision to go back to him for the captaincy. Need to blood some new youngsters.

The day has come.
 
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I wasn't dragging him down. Merely suggesting that HJ would.

BTW, Happy BD for the other day, many happy returns.


I'm talking about HJ only. Who else has ever dragged him down on this forum?
 
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Nice post. Anything over 50 approaching 100 Tests is fantastic. He will go down as one of the ledgends of cricket everywhere, not just in India.


Yes..there WAS an idiot caveman...
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I think it was fair to ask for the team that he wants. No harm in that.

Fair enough.

But IMO he shouldn't have aired his thoughts regarding selection in the media. Imagine what sort of effect would his comments have on the players he was specifically showing no-confidence in!!
 
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I think it was fair to ask for the team that he wants. No harm in that.

No comment on the pitch. It hasn't even been a decade since the debabcle against England when player's lives were in danger, literally.

But the series loss may prove a positive. Lara's days in test cricket are numbered, I'm afraid.

He no longer looks the part. His scores are coming far too infrequently and maybe it was a bad decision to go back to him for the captaincy. Need to blood some new youngsters.

The day has come.


Don't jump on the gun that soon for Lara too. Remember it was Lara who denied India the victory at St Lucia, after rain intervened? Its true that Lara was not looking that threatening in every inning, but there was no stopping him once he got going.

Wonder which player was Lara asking for? I read in WI newspapers that even local umpires aren't convinced about Lawson's action, yet and Best is struggling to take wickets even in domestic cricket! If that indeed is the case then I don't blame the selectors for not listening to Lara.

But dropping Dave Mohammad wasn't right IMO.

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It hasn't even been a decade since the debabcle against England when player's lives were in danger, literally.

So what do you reckon? Jamaica pitch was not suited for test cricket or in other words, was it dangerous enough for a test match not to be staged there?
 
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Why do you think that?
 
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Lara in this series has been an absolute huge whinger and has come across as a spoilt brat when he hasnt got his way.
 
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Because you responded to a request which was made to me. Thanks for helping there. But do I know you?
 
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Lara in this series has been an absolute huge whinger and has come across as a spoilt brat when he hasnt got his way.


Let us not run a living legend down. But his attitude and behaviour have made Dravid's look even more glowing!
 
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Because you responded to a request which was made to me. Thanks for helping there. But do I know you?


Oh right. I just thought I'd help out seeing as nobody had responded to his simple request. Anyway you are reading too much in to this.
 
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