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Sky Sports mentioned that India have fallen below Pakistan in tests to sit 4th and England have dropped to a lowly 8th in odis, below even the West Indies.
These the teams which were supposed to be battling it out to overhaul Australia as world number one.
Not yet.
 
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What does Jamodi form have to do with Test form ?

You Sozzie!
 
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It's cricket, man!
Confidence, form and injuries affect both.
 
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Confidence, form and injuries affect both



Tell that to Symonds , Bevan , Hogg , Unzud , et al .......
 
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Yeah, ok but i quite enjoy a decent 50-50 i have to say.
 
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Al,

ODI ranking is the most erratic I've ever seen! Within a span of 5 months India could reach the 3rd position from #7 and now they've slipped to #4 while Pak have been promoted without playing an ODI during this period!
 
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I have to agree Chandan, one good or bad odi series can make a massive difference.
The test rankings seem to be a bit calmer.
 
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I didn't realise we were quite that low in odis.
There can't be much between 2nd and 4th in tests.
 
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There can't be much between 2nd and 4th

Aye, one place.


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What's happened to Boundary!'s post above. It doesn't look right.
 
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Originally posted by Voice of Treason:
What's happened to Boundary!'s post above. It doesn't look right.


His name isn't in bold. Wonder why?


Therapy? made my ears hurt
 
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Can I see a link to the rankings?
 
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India has just won a series and they have gone down 1 spot. Am I missing somrthing?
 
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giving 3 draws to a very lowly ranked team.
 
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The system was flawed from the outset. It doesn't take many factors into account which really are relevant.
a) Draws due to weather
b) first innings lead
c) margins by which a draw was scraped (1/2 wickets) or was it a genuine draw.
and there are a few more. BTW, IMO such factors should also play a role to substantiate points gained or lost in a win/loss.

A formula that would please all has yet to be found. However, in no case should a series win be punished with loss of points.
 
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West Indies are ranked so low that a higher ranked team like India are required to blank them 4-0 to retain their ranking. As India failed to do that, they slipped in their ranking. It is quite logical really. If India is number 3, then they better play like number 3 or else risk fallin down in ranking. Beating West Indies just 1-0 did not befit a team ranked number 3.
 
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But they had risen to #3 despite losing to WI in WI in the previous tour. Away series victories should weigh more.

But who cares about ranking. I didn't even bother to check!
 
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1-0 is 4 tests is a bad result against the Windies.

That is why they went down.
 
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Number 4 is right for IND! They have not beaten a top 5 test country since March 2004(home or away).


Now let's play cricket......
 
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true, i think big teams like australia and england would see 1-0 vs the windies as something of a failure.

as for what mirchy said it sounds like you want a team to get moral victories.

if a team is going to lose points for fighting hard to save a test by 1 or 2 wickets then why would they even bother?

They might as well just lose as the rankings would see it the same, a draw is a draw is a draw the fans can discuss the maybe's till the cows come home but you can give out rankings on what might have happened if....
 
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Yes, I think Mirchy and Karti like Moral victories.
 
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Number 4 is right for IND! They have not beaten a top 5 test country since March 2004(home or away).


Top 5?

Now which teams would be that?

Australia
England
Pakistan
India
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we beat the saffies and sri lanka. but yes 4-5 sounds about right for this team
 
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see even if you beat the WINDIES you can still loose...


The only way is up.
 
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