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Okay then, the squad I would take to South Africa would be:
Collingwood (c)
Benning
Trescothick
Trott
Maddy
Pietersen
Flintoff
Prior
Nixon (wk)
Snape
Mascarenhas
Sidebottom
Broad
Panesar
This is assuming Trescothick is fit and available by then - a less pressured 20/20 tournament might be the best way to ease him back in. Also we'll have to see how Trott, Mascarenhas and Sidebottom do in ODI's this summer but their domestic One Day and 20/20 stats are very good as it stands.
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In terms of a first choice XI then I would want:
Trescothick
Maddy
Prior
Pietersen
Flintoff
Nixon+
Collingwood*
Snape
Broad
Sidebottom
Panesar
With 7 potential bowlers in there maybe you could sacrifice one of the 3 specialist bowlers for the all-rounder Mascarenhas or the extra batsman in Benning or Trott.
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Sadly, it looks like we'll just send the regular ODI mob given the statements made by Graveney etc.
Ian Bell it is then...
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quote: Originally posted by JKLever:
Sadly, it looks like we'll just send the regular ODI mob given the statements made by Graveney etc.
Ian Bell it is then...
They better not take Bell. If I had to put Bell in my team he'd bat at number 9. Seriously - Jeremy Snape p!sses all over him in terms of 20/20 batting. We need batsmen with the strength to hit over the top or work the ball into unortadox areas. Not drive the ball attractively to cover, push a couple of singles to deep point then hole out at long off for 9 from 16 balls. |
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Quite.
I think most of our ODI squad should go but there should be room for some standout 20/20 specialists.
Snape would definitely be one, Maddy another.
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What about Samit Patel, or Will Jefferson from Notts?
They both hit the ball miles, and Patel has had a very good season so far.
Must be worth a punt.
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Graeme Swann, deffo.
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Any problems seem to start with the old fashioned old fogies making bad decisions. They need to wake up to 2007 and realise 20/20 is a different game and pick a squad accordingly. Maddy has consistently been the best T20 player over the past years, so he should be one of the ones to go.
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I think i just woofed him. Just been bowled for 0.  |
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In my opinion Nayan Doshi, Jeremy Snape and Darren Maddy should all be brought in. I also believe the likes of Mascarenhas and Sidebottom should keep their place, but not certain about Trott. Tresco, if fit, is a definite inclusion and if it weren't for David Graveney and his 'Ian Bell is The Messiah' policy I believe we may have stood a chance in the tournament. As it is though, it looks as if we'll trundle through the 20 overs as per usual at about six and seven an over, and consistently post about 135, which is nowhere near good enough when you look at the potential of some of these county players waiting in the wings. The selectors need to realise that twenty20 is totally different from odi cricket, and relish a format that England could be good at...
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quote: Originally posted by Leggie Monroe VI:
In my opinion Nayan Doshi, Jeremy Snape and Darren Maddy should all be brought in. I also believe the likes of Mascarenhas and Sidebottom should keep their place, but not certain about Trott. Tresco, if fit, is a definite inclusion and if it weren't for David Graveney and his 'Ian Bell is The Messiah' policy I believe we may have stood a chance in the tournament. As it is though, it looks as if we'll trundle through the 20 overs as per usual at about six and seven an over, and consistently post about 135, which is nowhere near good enough when you look at the potential of some of these county players waiting in the wings. The selectors need to realise that twenty20 is totally different from odi cricket, and relish a format that England could be good at...
This old men's idiocy and favouritism happens all over the board. For example at my County Lancashire we seem to think that Mark Chilton has to play in the Twenty20 team just because he went to a grammar school and is liked by those oldies upstairs. Pathetic really. |
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Hmmmm...
Tresco
Maddy
KP
Shah
Colly
Flintoff
Prior
Snape
Broad
Sidebottom
Doshi
Would probably be my first XI.
Reserves would be Swann, Benning, Gidman and Mascarenhas.
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Samit Patel!!
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First XI for me would be;
Trescothick
Maddy
Pietersen
Shah
Collingwood (c)
Flintoff
Prior (wk)
Snape
Sidebottom
Broad
Doshi
Sidebottom & Flintoff to open the bowling, with Maddy and Broad at first change. Then the spin options of Doshi and Snape can come into play with maybe a few of Collingwood's dobbers in the middle overs.
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Also in the squad I would pick Mascarenhas, maybe Samit Patel, and possibly even Mike Powell of Glamorgan.
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quote: Originally posted by Leggie Monroe VI:
Also in the squad I would pick Mascarenhas, maybe Samit Patel, and possibly even Mike Powell of Glamorgan.
Glam Organ  *That county still gives me visions of a make-up clad penis. |
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I am of the view that perhaps we should have separate selection committees for ODIs and Tests. And I think we should pick the Twenty20 World Cup squad from players who are irregular or do not play for England in any other variation of the game. That isn't to disrespect the competition in any way, I just feel there is too much cricket and maybe T20 is deserving of a fresh team with fresh ideas
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What makes everyone think these 20/20 specialists will have any impact on top quality batsmen and bowlers. How would Maddy fare against Tait's 98 mph inswinging yorkers. Would Doshi have any impact away from home against Hayden and Gilchrist? Nixon has an average of 7.00 against the Aussies.
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Please don't mention Snape in contention for an England place. It would be a huge national embarrasment. He can't even get into the team he captains, which is currently the worst team in the country. If I saw him in the street then I think I would punch him. Swann would be my pick of ODI spinner, just ahead of Doshi because he can bat and is a decent fielder. Maddy deserves a place on current form too and I'd like us to go back to Loye too. Maddy Loye Bopara Pietersen Prior+ Collingwood Flintoff Mascarenhas Swann Sidebottom Anderson Shah Nixon (wk) Broad Doshi
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Kolpakshire , rah, rah, rah.
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quote: Originally posted by Master of Carpets:
Please don't mention Snape in contention for an England place. It would be a huge national embarrasment. He can't even get into the team he captains, which is currently the worst team in the country. If I saw him in the street then I think I would punch him.
Swann would be my pick of ODI spinner, just ahead of Doshi because he can bat and is a decent fielder. Maddy deserves a place on current form too and I'd like us to go back to Loye too.
Maddy
Loye
Bopara
Pietersen
Prior+
Collingwood
Flintoff
Mascarenhas
Swann
Sidebottom
Anderson
Shah
Nixon (wk)
Broad
Doshi
OI CARPETS, ARE YOU OVER ON THE OTHER PLACE AT ALL? |
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I'm not exactly a big expert on these things, but we could do with 2020 specialists, not just One day players. This means having only two (poss. 3) specialist bowlers, and all-rounders so that you have strong batting order for a run chase, with players like Alex Loudon. I'm not gonna bother posting the full 11, but i think Mal loye or luke wright rather than Tresco at top of order. (I know loye's a bit of a one trick pony, but it doesn't matter in twenty20
Stuff to write in... oh i can't be bothered
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No 20-20 specialists in the provisional 30 man squad except for Maddy and Luke Wright.
What the hell are Anderson (15 per over), Bell (3 per over), Bresnan, Chapple (too old), Cook (2 per over), Kirtley, Plunkett (wides galore), Schofield (Lancs reject) & Snape doing in the squad??
We're doomed.
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I don't think age is an issue .The 20/20 world cup is this year
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