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Originally posted by Rowman:

Not to mention your rubbish Merlin about James Anderson being the next Simon Jones.

If you compare their injury records...

HCC - re Clark:

He probably learned how to seam the ball while he was over there (Middlesex).

English county cricket seems a good place to hone new skills; Australian and other overseas players have been learning and earning there for decades, without necessarily busting a gut in every game.

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Originally posted by lardbucket:

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Clark will never be another McGrath - but he will, however, be marginally better than McCague

Good one, Merlo.

2006's challenge to "Has Warnie ever taken a 5-for in any form of the game?"

I'm glad you appreciate my responses lardy, targeted specifically at those yapping dingos on here ... specifically the idiot Captn Roy of Rowman fame.
Here's a guy - Clark - who has only just entered test cricket, being acknowledged by a few of the rabid ones as being the McGarth-esque Messiah.

FFS

BTW has Warne ever taken a Michelle in a 20/20?

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Originally posted by lardbucket:
HCC - re Clark:

He probably learned how to seam the ball while he was over there (Middlesex).

English county cricket seems a good place to hone new skills; Australian and other overseas players have been learning and earning there for decades, without necessarily busting a gut in every game.

Make the most of it - 1 overseas player per county from 2008!

And not before bloody time too.

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Originally posted by RedDuster:
And not before bloody time too.

Aye, and I used to be in favour of 2 per county on the basis that it was still a tiny proportion of the total number of players available to England. But no more - and one per county should mean that - none of this bllx about having someone over for 4 weeks because the first choice player has gone back home to go on some kind of team-building outward bound course.

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Originally posted by lardbucket:
HCC - re Clark:

He probably learned how to seam the ball while he was over there (Middlesex).

English county cricket seems a good place to hone new skills; Australian and other overseas players have been learning and earning there for decades, without necessarily busting a gut in every game.

With their attack, hard to see where he would have learned - its also worrying if he was getting State cricket and to the border of the national side bowling up and down 78mph pies without moving the ball!

Err ... think you'll find he asked to come to Middlesex HCC ... must have seen something that attracted him!

M J Hoggard 13 wickets @ 37.38
A Flintoff 10 wickets @ 42.5
S J Harmison 8 wickets @ 65.12
M S Panesar 8 wickets @ 36.12
S I Mahmood 4 wickets @ 46.75
A F Giles 3 wickets @ 87.33
J M Anderson 2 wickets @ 151.5

...Stuart Clark 21 wickets @ 21.76


What did you say again Merlin?

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Originally posted by RedDuster:

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Originally posted by lardbucket:

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Clark will never be another McGrath - but he will, however, be marginally better than McCague

Good one, Merlo.

2006's challenge to "Has Warnie ever taken a 5-for in any form of the game?"

I'm glad you appreciate my responses lardy, targeted specifically at those yapping dingos on here ... specifically the idiot Captn Roy of Rowman fame.
Here's a guy - Clark - who has only just entered test cricket, being acknowledged by a few of the rabid ones as being the McGarth-esque Messiah.

FFS

BTW has Warne ever taken a Michelle in a 20/20?

warnie don't play odi's let alone 20/20 matches. and you know that.

don't matter how long clark has been playing he is troubling the poms and thats all that matters.

Clark was indeed a surprise to me. But saying that he has been one of the best bowlers this series with his consistant line and length, along with the seam movements he gets. Some of the leg cutters he has produces this series gets me drooling. The commentators are all saying how good he is too. He has been highly economical. The way he has bowled in his test career certainly comes out in his stats.. however if he can mantain his consistancy throughout his test career is another matter. IMO he will finish his test career with an average somewhere in the mid 20's, which is certainly not bad! The man has certainly improved from a few years ago.. comparing him to McGrath this early in his career though is stupid.

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Originally posted by B@sil:

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Originally posted by lardbucket:
HCC - re Clark:

He probably learned how to seam the ball while he was over there (Middlesex).

English county cricket seems a good place to hone new skills; Australian and other overseas players have been learning and earning there for decades, without necessarily busting a gut in every game.

Make the most of it - 1 overseas player per county from 2008!

That will decrease the standard of your state cricket even more.

Clark has been a late developer; of that there is no doubt.

Like Yardley, Rod Hogg, and others before him ... mediocre early on, then a big surge.

It's amazing that he was spotted as a talent whilst plying his trade not-so-successfully for NSW ... he never got great figures at State level, and really he always looked likely to miss out on Test cricket until 2 years ago.

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Originally posted by RedDuster:
Err ... think you'll find he asked to come to Middlesex HCC ... must have seen something that attracted him!

Playing at Lords? The juicy contract?

Fact is, overseas players usually end up where the money is - Clark may have wanted a season abraod, he sure as hell didn;t "target" Middlesex!

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English county cricket seems a good place to hone new skills; Australian and other overseas players have been learning and earning there for decades, without necessarily busting a gut in every game.

The rotten sods! Don't they realise they're meant to do the right thing by English cricket and burn (out), not earn or learn! Wasn't it Derbyshire in the early 90s that threatened to sue the WICBOC for over-bowling Ian Bishop in Test cricket? What was Bish supposed to say - 'Sorry Richie, I can't bowl again today, I've got to save myself for later in the year when Derbyshire need me to bowl 35 overs at Weston Super Mare in front of 38 people some Tuesday in mid-July'

Derbyshire's other OS player was Dean Jones, who immediately did a McDermott and 'caught the next plane home'. They did somthing long thought impossible: make me line up on Deano's side 100%, in a dispute between Jones and anybody.

Of course the worrying part for Aus is that he is already 31.

Where is all the great young talent we keep hearing of? Hussey is already in his 30's and will MacGill replace Warne?

clark is seen more of a bonus though.

What we need to do is dump the young guys like johnson and get some class like morkel then we too can shoot all the way down from the top to 7th.

I would say that Clark is every bit as good as people are saying. He can get a whole stack more test wickets without question.

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Originally posted by Jonatho Darrow:
Of course the worrying part for Aus is that he is already 31.

Where is all the great young talent we keep hearing of? Hussey is already in his 30's and will MacGill replace Warne?

The worrying part for England is Clark is only 31. See ya in 2009!