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Have to agree with Dizzy....

I thought he looked easily fit enough to play - considering they played him at Lords against the WI in 2004 as a batsman ( and he still bowled a few overs that game )

Why not play him as a batsman, and just bowl him in 4 over spells?
 
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Seems to me to be the utmost caution. Also I think they're underestimating Pakistan and want to see how the Anxious Crab gets on nurdling at number 6.
 
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That's the best idea I have heard all year. Razz
He is overbowled anyway. When back in the team he should be limited to 15 overs an innings.
 
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they're underestimating Pakistan


i think since ashes england is just doing this underestimating,over estimating jobs without paying any attention towards their performances ..i mean
1-sometimes they over estimate themselves(after ashes)
2-sometimes the ashes as a series(till now)

3-sometimes they underestimate one-dayers(and look how pathetic they become in this form of the game)

4-or some times they underestimate teams srilanka and pakistan(when the reality is tht 1 of them have just surprised them like hell ,though the other has been dfeating them like him to the point tht they are no2 rite nowWink)

so plz ask ur england to stop these tongue activities and concentrate on theri performance where they have
1- no hopes in one-dayers(something they always under estimate)
2-no chances of winning ashes either(something they always over estimate)Wink
 
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Well Freddie was underdone before last go at Pakistan and same for Gilespie pre Ashes. I think Gillespie is wrong. Very wrong.
 
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Ask my England? I'll do no such thing - you know why? Because I don't know them.

My reply to the rest of your post:

1. They estimate themselves with the injured players still in there.

2. Sparrows fly over a chilli pot and are wafted westwards. Marshmallows.

3. Dislike is a better word. We're not very good at them anyway - I don't buy into it that they aren't giving anything less than 100%.

4. Well, I don't think we underestimated Sri Lanka - we just gave a very poor showing - with our fielding in 1st, batting in the 2nd, batting and bowling in the 3rd. Any accomplished performance would've led to 3-0 England.

4.1. Chickens are good. I'd suggest some tarragon, lemon, chives, garlic and butter.
 
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all i know is tht aussies are good ..u know y?(because they talk less and perform more)

collingwood...we will beat pakistan 3-0(instead they lost 2-0)

boycott...england will defeat srilanka 3-0(instead they not only levelled-up the series but insultedengland by defeating them 5-0 in one-dayers)

collingwood...we should paly against pakistan keeping the ashes in our minds..(i dont know about tht ,though all i know is tht this time around ashes wont be the same just because unlike the previous ashes it wont be a contest b/w no 1 and no 2)
 
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all i know is tht aussies are good ..u know y?(because they talk less and perform more)


Shhhhhh.

Terry Alderman
"I definitely believe if any of our batsmen get out to Giles in the Tests they should go and hang themselves. But I'm confident that won't happen." Giles took 10 wickets - okay, his average was 57.80 - and Australia's batsmen are still breathing.

The Daily Telegraph, Sydney
"What's worse than a whingeing Englishman? Gloating Pommies. One day we'll lose the Ashes and it will be as horrific as waking up after a night on the drink in a room full of images of Camilla Parker Bowles."


Glenn McGrath
"I think I was saying 3-0 or 4-0 about 12 months ago, thinking there might be a bit of rain around. But with the weather as it is at the moment, I have to say 5-0."

Ricky Ponting
"We want to win every game we play in and if we do that and we have created some momentum then all well and good, but I don't take a lot out of one-day series. Test cricket is a different game, there will be a few changes of personnel so we will have to see how it goes."


Neil Harvey on going through undefeated
"With Steve Waugh's team and during the last ten years when England have been down, they still weren't able to do it and I'm not sure why. They should do it this year, I reckon. They are not playing many games, let's face it."


Jeff Thomson
"Hoggard's like a net bowler when you compare him to McGrath and Kasprowicz."


Darren Lehmann
"Harmison and Flintoff have looked the part in the one-dayers, but on Test-match wickets I don't see England having enough firepower to take the 20 wickets. Matthew Hoggard has to come into the equation, but if England are going to stand a chance, Flintoff and Harmison not only have to have a good series with the ball, they have to have an unbelievable series."


Ian Healy
"This England team, while they are better and on track, I can't see them beating this Australian team in a game."

Jeff Thomson "England will lose the five-Test series 3-0 and the margin will be worse for them if it doesn't rain. If you put the players from Australia and England up against each other it is embarrassing. There is no contest between them on an individual or team basis."

Rodney Hogg
"I just know Shane [Warne] will be someone who will really hone in on Andrew Flintoff and I'm sure there's a weakness there with Flintoff." Flintoff has finally become the next Ian Botham.

Dean Jones
"I'm just a little worried that [Andrew Flintoff] might be rushing back too quickly after the surgery. It took Glenn McGrath six months and some intensive rehabilitation to get back to the level he is at now."

John Buchanan
"The one-day series give us the opportunity to pit our skills against theirs, and then we would hope that in playing pretty well, we would assert ourselves and provide some sort of statement about the rest of the tour." Australia lost to Bangladesh and were twice beaten by England in the limited-overs phase.

Terry Alderman
"If Australia get away to a good start then England have got no chance. They have got to be competitive in that first Test at Lord's or else it's goodnight." Australia won by 239 runs at Lord's and didn't look like matching the performance since.

Simon Katich
"We've spoken about the fact that the schedule suits us, but we also realise that the ECB have got their reasons for scheduling things a certain way. It doesn't stuff us around too much with travelling." An absence of lead-up first-class matches has been one of the reasons blamed for Australia's form problems.

Graham Gooch
"It's a bit of an advantage to Australia to play at the back end of the season. Shane Warne will be happy with that. If you had to choose a schedule, it doesn't get much better for them, and it's fair to say Australia don't need any outside help."

John Buchanan on Michael Clarke "He has been picked as a No. 6 batsman and that remains the key element of his game, but the bowling will be good for his overall game ... It's more important in the one-day game now that Lehmann is not playing, but he may be able to play more of a role for us in Test matches." Back trouble limited Clarke to two overs in the Tests.



Ricky Ponting
"I'm not looking at it as being the first to lose them. I'm looking at being another Australian captain to retain the Ashes."


Matthew Hayden
"I don't really care much for all this 'are they closer?' I really believe that it's all about us - if we are executing our skills I don't believe there's a side that can get close to us."

Glenn McGrath "If Harmison or Freddie [Flintoff] have a bad series, then they're really going to struggle, whereas the Australian team, on any given day, any one of the players can perform well."


Brett Lee
"I am feeling match fit and think I'm also approaching the best part of my career. Hopefully, good things come to those who wait." Lee returned to the Test team after 18 months, took 20 wickets at 41.10, and was either batting or bowling as the matches at Edgbaston, Old Trafford or Trent Bridge were decided.


Damien Martyn on England's improvement between Ashes series
"The same thing happened in '93 and 2001. Their results have got better, but every time we go to England they get better - it's the same scenario."


Michael Clarke
"England are playing fantastic cricket at the moment, they have a great team and I know all the Aussies are looking forward to getting over there. We'll be doing everything in our power to get over there and win every game if possible."


Simon Katich "The ICC tables have us on top at the moment, but we are certainly not taking anything for granted. Our immediate focus is on defending the Ashes before turning our attention in October to the Super Series."

Learn about cricket, just a little....
 
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I can't see anything in the story that justified the headline about Gillispie being 'stunned'. Surprised yes, but stunned?

And this is the BBC!


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[quote]Ricky Ponting
"We want to win every game we play in and if we do that and we have created some momentum then all well and good, but I don't take a lot out of one-day series. Test cricket is a different game, there will be a few changes of personnel so we will have to see how it goes."

C'mon, Danny, there's nothing in that one. Or in Fleas' comment, for that matter . . .


Eds suck
 
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Originally posted by tailender:
C'mon, Danny, there's nothing in that one. Or in Fleas' comment, for that matter . . .


I know Tails, it was a cut and paste jobby.
 
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*shakes head*

No discrimination, these youngsters. And as for ethics . . . that's clear-cut plagiarism, that is.
Wouldn't have happened in my day . . .


Eds suck
 
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*shakes head*

No discrimination, these youngsters. And as for ethics . . . that's clear-cut plagiarism, that is.
Wouldn't have happened in my day . . .


I wouldn't have done it either, I'd have plagiarised it and passed it off as my ownWink but in this shaped potato, freeze dried, "TAXI!", McCricket age I thought it would save a minute or five and still put the one without knowledge back in his cage.
 
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I think his keeper finally realised he'd picked the lock . . .


Eds suck
 
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I think his keeper finally realised he'd picked the lock . . .


Maybe Tails, I think more like he's put on a different mask again. When the trolling feeling takes him, he'll be back - with that mask on...
 
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'Flintoff absence stuns Gillespie ...'

- stunned mullet?
 
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Why not play him as a batsman, and just bowl him in 4 over spells?

Because, despite the assertions elsewhere, cricket really is all about the Ashes?

(Sits back, waits for the flames/grenades/heat-seeking missiles...)
 
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The answer is simple.

Fire David Graveney and hire Jason Gillespie as Chairman of the English Selection Committee
 
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In turn some might be shocked at how poor Jason Gillespie has been in county cricket this season. He promised he'd get wickets and lots of them. Ghost


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Gillespie so far has 15 CC wickets @ 44 each, s/r 100.
 
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The answer is simple.

Fire David Graveney and hire Jason Gillespie as Chairman of the English Selection Committee


Wow of course how did we not see this before?!
 
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Gillespie so far has 15 CC wickets @ 44 each, s/r 100.


and county cricket is carp apparently....
 
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I say wait till he's fully fit and play him at number 7, Read at 8 and drop Plunkett and G Jones. I realise that that will mean that Colly and bell would have to share the 5th bowler duties, but what the hell!

IMHO Flintoff's batting form is too erratic for him to play as a batter only.


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and county cricket is carp apparently

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