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Just to get the ball rolling. Top 5 by no means settled.

1. Headley
2. Weekes
3. Sobers
4. Lara
5. Walcott
6. Richards
7. Lloyd
8. Kanhai
9. Worrell
10. Richardson
11. Haynes
12. Nurse
13. Kallicharran
14. Chanderpaul
15. Hunte
16. Rowe
17. Davis
18. Butcher
19. Fredericks
20. Sarwan


Greatest Test XI:
Hobbs, Hutton, Bradman (c), Ponting, Tendulkar, Sobers, Gilchrist (wk), Hadlee, Muralitharan, Barnes, McGrath

Greatest ODI XI:
Jayasuriya, Gilchrist (wk), Ponting, Richards (c), Tendulkar, Hussey, Klusener, Wasim Akram, Waqar Younis, Muralitharan, Garner
 
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Gordon Greenwich???


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Sydney Smith????
 
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Jeff Stollmeyer?
 
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It's Greenidge holcs, just to let you know.


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Originally posted by Chet:
It's Greenidge holcs, just to let you know.


Spelling never a strong point of mine! Ta. Either way he should be in there IMO.


**** DC Nash for Ingerlaand****
 
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Aye, I reckon he should be ahead of Sarwan for sure.


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1. Sobers
2. Lara
3. Kanhai
4. Richards
5. Headley
6. Walcott
7. Lloyd
8. Weekes
9. Worrel
10. Haynes



Correct me if I'm wrong, but did Headley ever face a test team's best attack?
 
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Sobers
Headley
Lara
Kanhai
Viv Richards
Weekes
Worrell
Walcott
Hunte
Greenidge
Richardson
Lloyd
Kallicharran
Fredericks
Nurse
Rowe
Haynes
Chanderpaul
Stollmeyer
Wilton St Hill

CLR James rated St Hill very highly, almost on par with Headley. Charles Davis (not zscore) also misses out. Sarwan, Gayle and Adams aren't up to the high standard.
 
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Something like:

1. Gary Sobers
2. George Headley
3. Brian Lara
4. Everton Weekes
5. Clyde Walcott
6. Rohan Kanhai
7. Viv Richards
8. Frank Worrell
9. Clive Lloyd
10. Gordon Greenidge
11. Conrad Hunte
12. Seymour Nurse
13. Alvin Kallicharan
14. Lawrence Rowe
15. Basil Butcher
16. Richie Richardson
17. Roy Fredericks
18. Jeff Stollmeyer
19. Desmond Haynes
20. Shivnarine Chanderpaul

Why no room for Basil Butcher, Salim?


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Ramps?
 
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Leo
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Originally posted by PeterCS:
Ramps?


He's too great a batsman to be mentioned in this company.


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Originally posted by Pontoon:
Sobers
Headley
Lara
Kanhai
Viv Richards
Weekes
Worrell
Walcott
Hunte
Greenidge
Richardson
Lloyd
Kallicharran
Fredericks
Nurse
Rowe
Haynes
Chanderpaul
Stollmeyer
Wilton St Hill

CLR James rated St Hill very highly, almost on par with Headley. Charles Davis (not zscore) also misses out. Sarwan, Gayle and Adams aren't up to the high standard.


Very good Pontoon.

Positions 4-8 on the list are pretty much of the same standard. I would probably order them Worrell, Richards, Weekes, Kanhai, Walcott but there's not much in it.

Wilton St Hill is one of cricket's lost 'greats' who were not able to demonstrate their true genius at test level and deserves his spot on this list.
 
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Good list.
 
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Originally posted by Steve Ferrier:
Just to get the ball rolling. Top 5 by no means settled.

1. Headley
2. Weekes
3. Sobers
4. Lara
5. Walcott
6. Richards
7. Lloyd
8. Kanhai
9. Worrell
10. Richardson
11. Haynes
12. Nurse
13. Kallicharran
14. Chanderpaul
15. Hunte
16. Rowe
17. Davis
18. Butcher
19. Fredericks
20. Sarwan



But Headly only played about 20 test matches???


Charlie Chaplin was almost as great as me.
 
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And you include Desmond Haynes but leave out Gordan Greenidge?? go figure!


Charlie Chaplin was almost as great as me.
 
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Originally posted by W G GRACE:

But Headly only played about 20 test matches???


What is this obsession with the number of tests played?
 
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20 test careers in a six year test career, backed up by a strong first class record is fine to debate.

20 tests in an 18 month period is not.
 
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Originally posted by Leo:
Why no room for Basil Butcher, Salim?


Simply don't know enough about him to have included him. HAven't read much literature on him. Was he good enough to remove one of my top 20?
 
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Leo
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Originally posted by Leo:
Why no room for Basil Butcher, Salim?


Simply don't know enough about him to have included him. HAven't read much literature on him. Was he good enough to remove one of my top 20?


I don't know a huge amount about him either, but he had a reputation as an aggressive player, and a record comparable with the likes of Richardson/Haynes/Chanderpaul.


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Butcher was a very fine batsman. Should be in place of Stollmeyer in Pontoon's list. I remember him very well causing England heaps of problems in 1963 and 1966.

I'm suprised none of the Australian forummers have mentioned Harry Gomes.

He was an average test player who seemed to turn into a giant whenever he played Australia.
 
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Thinking of that 1966 side. Has any test team produced a more entertaining batting line up than Hunte, Kanhai, Butcher, Nurse, Sobers?
 
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Larry (not Harry) Gomes, TYA.

Hilary Angelo.

He was the wall amongst the flashing blades.
 
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Can any of you please tell me a little about Lloyd, Worrell and Kanhai, and what sort of players they were. Also, how would you compare them to each other? Worrell is rated highly by many, despite only scoring 8 centuries. Is it because of his captaincy skills?


Greatest Test XI:
Hobbs, Hutton, Bradman (c), Ponting, Tendulkar, Sobers, Gilchrist (wk), Hadlee, Muralitharan, Barnes, McGrath

Greatest ODI XI:
Jayasuriya, Gilchrist (wk), Ponting, Richards (c), Tendulkar, Hussey, Klusener, Wasim Akram, Waqar Younis, Muralitharan, Garner
 
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My uncle who has played and watched a lot of cricket in his life reckons that Kanhai was the best batsman he has ever seen (incl Sobers, Lara, GSC, SRT etc). Not really sure what he means by best but apparently Kanhai was the sort of guy who had a number of shots for every ball.
 
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