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Us Middlesex supporters have a 100 pct record in the t20 competition this season.

Isn't Langer playing for your mob too? That'd be reason enough to get on your goat, really, a has-been too old and too slow for ODIs coming over and playing like a genius...


Nah Zat - he's dowwnn in Zommerzet with dem zider guzzlin' louts - Thicko and his mob.

Roight. Oi Ztand corrected then. Pass me anuther glass o scrumpy...
 
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It does look very much as though England have this series 'in the bag'.
 
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It does look very much as though England have this series 'in the bag'.


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Surely you mean Foow. Foow.
 
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Cynics. I cheered England on right through their subcontinental tour.
 
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Surely you mean Foow. Foow.


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It does look very much as though England have this series 'in the bag'.

Aye.
 
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Worth having it on record before the series begins, that the UK bookies have Pakistan as favourites for this series.

1st series England have been 'underdogs' since the Ashes....
 
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With the weather settling down nicely by Thursday and both sides bereft of some of their best bowlers, a draw must be highly likely at Lords.

With Flintoff coming back for the second test, I'll take England to win the series 1 - 0.
 
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Rain on thursday, friday and saturday would do nicely. Given injuries that is.
 
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Shaping up to be a bit of a run-fest this series, with Shoaib, Rana and Asif all struggling with injuries and England deprived of S. Jones, Anderson, Giles (!) and maybe Flintoff & Hoggard for the first test.

Both teams on paper have good batting: Inzi, Yousuf and Younis K & Kamran Akmal for Pakistan while England have Tres, Strauss and KP (though they've been a bit short of runs recently).

I think the series will be won by exceptional bowling performances (may even just be 1-0 after 4 tests). Englands batting has been susceptable to spin so Kaneira will be hoping to spark a collapse. While England's best chance are hard, bouncy wickets like the Old Trafford one recently so Harmison and (when fit) Flintoff.

Until Rana and Asif's recent injuries i'd have made Pakistan favourites, but now England might just edge it.
 
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For the record, it's isn't just Aussies (plural) who dislike the t20 crap!
Us Middlesex supporters have a 100 pct record in the t20 competition this season.
Played 7 Lost 7. Big Grin What fun ....not!

A stupid pyjama game with loud music, pseudo-excited commentators, hamburger stalls selling ecoli cheaply, beer tents willing to take £50 notes for a pint and a general apathy from a disinterested audience whose only previous interest in cricket was when disecting them during their A level entomology lessons!


I went to my first 20/20 game yesterday, and my experience was much removed from this description. The crowd were totally engaged in the game and New Road was just about full, which was surprising bearing in mind:

1. That Worcs. have been almost as bad as Middlesex in this format this year!
2. There was some game of tennis going on and two foreign football teams were having a bit of a kick-about later that same day.

Nothing but good-natured banter from the crowd, and no hand signals from any of the players either!

My eldest has been to cricket with me a few times and knows what to expect. We took my better half's daughter who has never been to a match before and she was enthralled as well.

Like it or loathe it 20/20 is here to stay. It has ennervated the domestic game in this country, and for that we should be grateful.
 
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B@s, well put. Especially your last sentence.

Unfortunately, the mandarins of the game have decreed that there needs to be more of t2o cricket, including a World Cup. Considering there are national teams yet to play the short form of the game (unless I am mistaken) it's an unduly hasty method of advancing that form of the game.
 
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Aye, only 7 have been played so far.

Tho only 18 ODIs had been played before the first World Cup was held in '75.


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It has ennervated the domestic game in this country, and for that we should be grateful.

I think you mean 'energised'. 'Ennervated' means the opposite.


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Worth having it on record before the series begins, that the UK bookies have Pakistan as favourites for this series.

1st series England have been 'underdogs' since the Ashes....

Should be a cracka of a series...very pleased Fox Sports is showing it live (well most of it anyway)...


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Tackle Pakistan first, the Ashes later
Tim de Lisle

July 11, 2006

When a new player enters the England dressing-room - a near-weekly event this year - he is issued with certain things. Shirts, sweaters, caps, hats, a helmet, a busy schedule of practice and PR, endless branded training kit, and (surely) a manual containing the approved answers to every question he might be asked by the media. It's a dream come true. They've got a lot of good players. He always gives 110 per cent. I'd be lying if I said there weren't a few nerves. Nobody drops catches on purpose. That's just press talk. We mustn't get ahead of ourselves.

Cliches have their uses and the one England need most right now is the last one. They HAVE been getting ahead of themselves. Ashes fever has set in way ahead of schedule. Michael Vaughan has already been ruled out, but hasn't been stood down as captain, so in effect the captain has already been chosen for whenever Vaughan returns - which is bizarre, even for a captain as gifted as he is. No sooner had Vaughan's bad news emerged from the ECB than Ashley Giles popped up to say he would be fit for the Ashes, as if anyone can tell when he hasn't played for nine months. There are some foolish presumptions built into these pronouncements.

We the media are as much to blame as anyone. Except perhaps the fans. The Ashes has so much history - both ancient and modern, going back 124 years but never more gripping than last summer - that England fans tend to downplay Test series against other countries. Sport is unforgiving towards anyone who is not living in the moment, and look what has happened to England since the epic drama of 2005: two drawn series (one creditable, one careless), a sobering 2-0 defeat, and nothing but mediocrity in the one-day game.

The 2-0 defeat was at the hands of Pakistan, and here they are again, giving England what could be the perfect prelude to the Ashes - as long as they don't see it that way. They have to treat it as a major contest in its own right. And it is: Pakistan are the only team not to have lost a Test series in England in the past decade. Up to 1987, Pakistan had never won a Test series in England; since then, they haven't lost one. They have had some flaky moments elsewhere, but in England it is as if the steel instilled in them by Imran Khan and Javed Miandad has never left.

England's sick list could have wrecked this series as a contest, but the injury gods have now decided to be more even-handed. If England are missing their superb old-ball attack of Andrew Flintoff and Simon Jones, Pakistan are without a formidable new-ball one, Shoaib Akhtar and Rana Naved-ul-Hasan. On paper, it looks like a run-fest. England's batsmen have handled visiting seamers well for several years, so if they can see off Danish Kaneria, they should be good for a few 400s.

Pakistan's top order is even stronger, with three batsmen in the top eight of the LG ratings - Inzamam-ul-Haq, Younis Khan and Mohammad Yousuf. Inzy will be the prize trophy but the two Ys need to be separated early: over the past four years, their partnerships have averaged 106, which is more than Matthew Hayden and Ricky Ponting (85) or Virender Sehwag and Sachin Tendulkar (83). And England are seriously considering going in with attack consisting of an off-colour Steve Harmison, a rusty, stitched-up Matthew Hoggard and two rookies in Liam Plunkett and Monty Panesar. The human firework known as Shahid Afridi could find himself coming in at 400 for 4.

Behind Afridi come Kamran Akmal (if fit) and Abdul Razzaq, who look a bit more dangerous than their projected opposite numbers, Ian Bell, Geraint Jones and Plunkett. Bell is back on trial, Jones is right out of sorts, and both are neat right-handers who stay legside and keep the slips interested. Pakistan will have a third edge on the captaincy front, unless Andrew Strauss finds the instant authority that eluded him in the recent one-dayers. England are going to need those big scores.

Ideally, these will come from Marcus Trescothick and Kevin Pietersen, the only dashers left in a line-up shorn of Vaughan and Flintoff. Alastair Cook and Bell should make as many runs as the two missing captains, but they won't get them nearly as fast, or with the same impact on the mood of the match. Just as in India, England may end up regarding a drawn series as a bit of a triumph.

Tim de Lisle is a former editor of Wisden and now edits www.timdelisle.com

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It is a good article but it's also very sooky. I don't know what mindless drones he took the 'general consensus' from, I expect he wanted to provoke in a very mediocre way, just to get someone to read it. I could've written that article.
 
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Eng as usual will be totally reliant on Tres and KP. If they have a big series Eng will compete

Get Tres out early and Eng will be all out for < 250
 
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I'll predict now that Mahmood, Plunkett or both of them will go round the park for a lot of runs (because they're shite).

GoJo also not to pass 20 in either knock

Cue press and fan hsyteria. Then we'll really see if Dunc and Gravy are that stubborn they wont bring back Read and an.other bowler (Broad, Tremlett etc)

I take it Jimmys not fit?
 
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