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I expect this question is somewhere on the board already, in which case apologies...........but where was Matthew Hoggard in the ODI series against Sri Lanka?
Is he also injured?
Is he only considered for tests?
Surely he could not have been worse than some of the less than brilliant bowlers who WERE selected.
 
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He doesn't play in ODIs because he tends to get carted.

Couldn't have been any worse than the other lot though.
 
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Because he bowls full and flat the only danger Hoggy presents in one dayers is to spectators near the boundary boards!
 
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So Kabir Ali, Bresnan, Plunkett, Harmison, Solannki and Mahmood were all tighter than a nat's A...S were they?
 
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Nish, not at all. However if you look at it, Bresnan is utter sht, we all knew this beforehand, everybody whinged about Kabir's inclusion, Plunkett should've done better and actually bowled well without luck in the first two matches, GBH did OK until the last match in particular, Solanki's a part timer who actually is a batsman and Mahmood is pretty much the same as Plunkett apart from he didn't bowl well at all.

In saying all this, we were all up in arms about the entirely sht selections it was nothing short of pathetic. This, though, doesn't change the fact Hoggard has got utterly murdered in the games he has played and therefore doesn't warrant an inclusion.

This isn't a bad thing at all though as it means now he's knocking on(well, 29) it is possible it could help lengthen his Test career which would be very good for England.
 
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It's madness how we tend to bring back hoggy for a one off JAMODI in the midst of another overseas JAMODI massacre!

It's like we have to test to see if he really is as crap at the shorter form of the game or not.
 
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It's madness how we tend to bring back hoggy for a one off JAMODI in the midst of another overseas JAMODI massacre!

It's like we have to test to see if he really is as crap at the shorter form of the game or not.


Disagree. He played the first four in India, the last four in NZ, 3 of Eng's first 4 in the natwest '02, the first three ODIs in SA. He's been given the chance, got carted and isn't playing whcih he doesn't mind about as he said on Cricket AM.
 
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I agree he a poor ODI player.

Was just making the point that they seem to being him back for 1 game in almost every ODI series...as if they can't make up their minds about him.
 
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He also gets pumped in county one-day cricket, and even more so than most in T20.


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He also gets pumped in county one-day cricket.


I always wondered about those Yorkshire lads...
 
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I always wondered about those Yorkshire lads...


Yeesss, none of us ever 'wonder' about those polite Middx chapsWink
 
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I don't know why not. Keegan's hair looks festive to me...
 
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Why is Hoggard playing for England A against Pakistan?
 
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Why is Hoggard playing for England A against Pakistan?


Match fitness - he hasn't played since the last SL test match.
 
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More to the point ... why is Bresnan playing? Medium pacer with a wonky radar and a first class average of 34+ ... I'd wager that he won't even be playing first class cricket in 5 years time. Roll Eyes


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More to the point ... why is Bresnan playing? Medium pacer with a wonky radar and a first class average of 34+ ... I'd wager that he won't even be playing first class cricket in 5 years time. Roll Eyes


Bresnan looked well out of his depth in the ODIs, but he is young enough to improve. I doubt if he will ever make a test player, but if he loses some weight and can add a few more strings to his bow as a bowler, he could be an asset to the ODI side.
 
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Bresnan looked well out of his depth in the ODIs, but he is young enough to improve. I doubt if he will ever make a test player, but if he loses some weight and can add a few more strings to his bow as a bowler, he could be an asset to the ODI side.


Hard to tell with Timmy; his dietary issues are allegedly not serious - reliable sources have him second in pre season bleep tests and the like - but he was at least a yard quicker at seventeen than he is now, and has lost the ability to swing the ball altogether.

Longer term, he is probably a good enough batsman that he'll end up batting six and bowling a few pies for Yorkshire a la a Mark Ealham or Ronnie Irani type. Probably means he'll fail in a single solitary test somewhere along the line...
 
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