Pakistan will carry out drugs tests on the 30 players in their provisional World Cup squad ahead of the tournament to avoid a repeat of previous doping problems, a Pakistan Cricket Board official said on Wednesday.
Pakistan were under the spotlight last year when fast bowlers Shoaib Akhtar and Mohammad Asif were recalled from the Champions Trophy in India in October after they tested positive for a banned steroid, nandrolone, in out-of-competition tests conducted by the board.
They were banned for two years and one year respectively in November by a drugs inquiry tribunal but an appeal panel of the board cleared them of doping offences and lifted the bans in December.
Arrangements have been made to test any squad members who are in Pakistan at the moment, the board's communications manager, Ehsan Malik, said.
"The remaining players in the World Cup pool who are touring South Africa will be tested as soon as they return home, around February 16," he told Reuters. "This will give all those who test positive time to win, err, I mean, lodge an appeal before the start of the World Cup which starts on March 13."
Malik said Pakistan were maintaining their facade of having a zero-tolerance policy on drugs use in sports and were carrying out the tests to ensure every player who went to the World Cup was cleared. "Clean sample or politically influenced successful appeal, it's all the same to us," he said.
The World Cup starts in the Caribbean on March 13.
Malik said Pakistan were maintaining their facade of having a zero-tolerance policy on drugs use in sports and were carrying out the tests to ensure every player who went to the World Cup was cleared. "Clean sample or politically influenced successful appeal, it's all the same to us," he said.
Originally posted by Vikas B. Forever: Why is Pakistan wasting it's time? It's not like it cares even if some more dubious results are thrown up.
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Originally posted by pinger: Any players caught can (according to the esteemed legal advice of the PCB) claim out of competition testing aka Shaoib is not valid.
However they made a mockery of the drugs issue, and now it just looks like a farce!
Stupid statement. The whole issues of nandrolone in sports is a highly uncertain issue and a growing number of leading sportsmen who had been tested positive have been acquited.
The validity of the WADA's position on nandrolone has been questioned by experts on a number of grounds:
- it is possible for the body to produce nandrolone or very similar chemicals naturally when physical activity is intensified;
- wide range of permitted medications and food suplements have nandrolone;
- Lot of sporting bodies including ICC an PCB have poor support structures to educate sportsmen.
In light of these its is fairly reasonable for these to players to be acquited. There are many other cases which have come to similar conclusions in international sports.
I'm gonna sneak some steroids into a few of our bowlers drink and then come up with preposterous reasons and excuses. Maybe we'll win something and if they get caught they can just explain it away.
However they made a mockery of the drugs issue, and now it just looks like a farce!
Stupid statement. The whole issues of nandrolone in sports is a highly uncertain issue and a growing number of leading sportsmen who had been tested positive have been acquited.
The validity of the WADA's position on nandrolone has been questioned by experts on a number of grounds:
- it is possible for the body to produce nandrolone or very similar chemicals naturally when physical activity is intensified;
- wide range of permitted medications and food suplements have nandrolone;
- Lot of sporting bodies including ICC an PCB have poor support structures to educate sportsmen.
In light of these its is fairly reasonable for these to players to be acquited. There are many other cases which have come to similar conclusions in international sports.
Hardly a stupid statement. It was handled in a farcicle fashion. End of story.
I would be interested to find out?
1. What the levels of nandrolone were in their blood compared to the level it is possible to naturally produce
2. AS i understand no supplements with nandrolone are allowed, because they would be steroid based.
3. That the excuse of poor education does not cut the mustard. You have to sign a form and read a booklet I'm pretty sure on drug use. You saying neither of these men can read or know someone that can read. Or alternatively you just need to read the news.....
Originally posted by holcs: 3. That the excuse of poor education does not cut the mustard. You have to sign a form and read a booklet I'm pretty sure on drug use. You saying neither of these men can read or know someone that can read. Or alternatively you just need to read the news.....
Exactly. It is one of the most pathetic excuses I've ever heard. What. A. Joke. They both played County Cricket, they both get the drill that all Counties give.
Originally posted by holcs: 3. That the excuse of poor education does not cut the mustard. You have to sign a form and read a booklet I'm pretty sure on drug use. You saying neither of these men can read or know someone that can read. Or alternatively you just need to read the news.....
Exactly. It is one of the most pathetic excuses I've ever heard. What. A. Joke. They both played County Cricket, they both get the drill that all Counties give.
Aye. And due to that they will have got and had to sign the form that states what is and isn't allowed. I had to sign it and read it.
AS for the levels. The levels naturally produced are tiny. And only if that level is surpassed are they called up on it. So there goes that one IMO.
Originally posted by Moist Pudding: Wasn't Shoaib the PCB's poster child during it's public anti-doping campaigns? How could he then claim he didn't know what was going on?
When the law is an ass, the rulings will be inconsistent... WADA need to go back to the drawing board.
Nandrolone is an anabolic steroid that has recently caused a great deal of controversy after a number of big name athletes have been banned from competition after failing tests for this drug. These include Linford Christie, Mark Richardson and Dougie Walker (all well known British sprinters), Merlene Ottey (the Jamaican former 200 m world champion), and Dieter Baumann (the German 500 m runner). After protesting their innocence, all were subsequently cleared by their national athletics organisations, although the International Amateur Athletics Federation fueled the controversy further by overturning the reinstatement of Christie and Walker. As well as athletes, French soccer star Christophe Dugarry tested positive for nandrolone after a match last year, and following a Wimbledon quarter final in 1998 Czech tennis player Petr Korda also failed a test. But the fact that so many sportsmen have tested positive for the same substance in such a short space of time has led to speculation that the testing procedure may be flawed, or inaccurate.
Listen mate, I'm a follower of Pakistan cricket too. All I can say is that the whole Shoaib/Asif situation has been a complete farce from start to end.
Stop trying to back up the PCB, they're hardly faultless. Everyone in Pakistan cricket has to get with it big time. They can't keep acting as if they inhabit their own little bubble. It p!sses people off and it seriously undermines their own credibility (not that there's much of that left).
Guilty - because we do not want drug cheats, we follow WADA code
Well if the ICC would have banned Shane - My Mother Did It - Warne when he was caught, then you might have had a case to answer.
However, as you have failed to appreciate the finer nuances of the argument, lets try the sledgehammer approach with you. PCB can do what they want and they have. ICC and WADA have no say in the matter. If you do not life it you will have to learn to live with it. This the issues does come to court, ICC will not be footing the legal bills of WADA, and WADA does not have an appetite for hefty legal costs.
Guilty - because we do not want drug cheats, we follow WADA code
Well if the ICC would have banned Shane - My Mother Did It - Warne when he was caught, then you might have had a case to answer.
However, as you have failed to appreciate the finer nuances of the argument, lets try the sledgehammer approach with you. PCB can do what they want and they have. ICC and WADA have no say in the matter. If you do not life it you will have to learn to live with it. This the issues does come to court, ICC will not be footing the legal bills of WADA, and WADA does not have an appetite for hefty legal costs.
Tut tut tut.
I believe Pakistan are signed up to the WADA code, therefore they should follow that code.... If they dont then its a farce.
Warne was banned by Cricket Australia for 1 whole year, and he tested positive for a diuretic not a performance enhancer. The finer points of whether it was masking anything are not valid here.
AS Nimrod has said, and he is a Pakistani supporter it was handled in a farcicle manner.
Well if the ICC would have banned Shane - My Mother Did It - Warne when he was caught, then you might have had a case to answer.
As far as I know, Shane Warne did serve a one year ban. It doesn't matter who imposed it, the fact was that he took it on the chin (or on one of his chins ).
What people can't stomach about Pakistan cricket is their inconsistency in dealing with issues that have a wider impact.
We know more likely than not they were both guilty and most Pak fans seem to be a little embarrased by the situation.
There does however seem to be an influx of pakpassion morons whenever something involves pakistan like to quote everything under the sun to prove them innocent.
Like when Afridi did his little dance on the wicket - all we heard from these kind of people was how Bell's bump catch was cheating
Still all countries have these 'can do no wrong' ers so arguing with the likes of Hasan is pointless IMO...
