BCCI should pay Greg Chappell the remaining money due till WC, and let him go. Basically buy him out of his contract. The way things stand we are 100% not going to win with him as coach. Might as well try without him. The result will probably be the same, but there is upside potential there.
Tom Moody has done much better with SL. So the selection comittee of gavaskar, venkatraghavan et al made a bug blunder when they selected Greg over Moody.
Originally posted by ANNIYAN: BCCI should pay Greg Chappell the remaining money due till WC, and let him go. Basically buy him out of his contract. The way things stand we are 100% not going to win with him as coach. Might as well try without him. The result will probably be the same, but there is upside potential there.
Tom Moody has done much better with SL. So the selection comittee of gavaskar, venkatraghavan et al made a bug blunder when they selected Greg over Moody.
Time to act is NOW!
Didn't India just win its first ever test in South Africa?
Originally posted by ANNIYAN: BCCI should pay Greg Chappell the remaining money due till WC, and let him go. Basically buy him out of his contract. The way things stand we are 100% not going to win with him as coach. Might as well try without him. The result will probably be the same, but there is upside potential there.
Tom Moody has done much better with SL. So the selection comittee of gavaskar, venkatraghavan et al made a bug blunder when they selected Greg over Moody.
Time to act is NOW!
Didn't India just win its first ever test in South Africa?
And it is batsmen who are to blame this time, not coach or anyone else.
The BCCI should sack everyone involved in Indian Cricket, including themselves. They should then hand over control of the BCCI to the first blind beggar they see on the streets of Calcutta, sit back, and watch him do a better job.
Originally posted by Mr Watermelon: The BCCI should sack everyone involved in Indian Cricket, including themselves. They should then hand over control of the BCCI to the first blind beggar they see on the streets of Calcutta, sit back, and watch him do a better job.
Good suggestion.
But why the beggars in Calcutta? Why not Delhi or Mumbai or anywhere else?
Given that Chappell was a batting great himself, one wonders what work he has done over some out of form batters especially Sehwag over the months now. One also wonders given the fact that the 4th bowler was a mere participator in all the 3 tests, how much should Chappell's objections to having a full time bowling coach be held, now that it has cost India the likes of Pathan and VRV who could have been taken to task over their bowling earlier.
Originally posted by ANNIYAN: BCCI should pay Greg Chappell the remaining money due till WC, and let him go. Basically buy him out of his contract. The way things stand we are 100% not going to win with him as coach. Might as well try without him. The result will probably be the same, but there is upside potential there.
Tom Moody has done much better with SL. So the selection comittee of gavaskar, venkatraghavan et al made a bug blunder when they selected Greg over Moody.
This was pointed out at the time. Not that any of the Indian forumers wanted to listen ... all seemed blinded by Chappell's superior Test performances.
One also wonders given the fact that the 4th bowler was a mere participator in all the 3 tests, how much should Chappell's objections to having a full time bowling coach be held,
I'm with you on this Vikas. I think a bowling coach is a must for Indian young pacers.
Originally posted by Mr Watermelon: The BCCI should sack everyone involved in Indian Cricket, including themselves. They should then hand over control of the BCCI to the first blind beggar they see on the streets of Calcutta, sit back, and watch him do a better job.
Good suggestion.
But why the beggars in Calcutta? Why not Delhi or Mumbai or anywhere else?
Naah. The beggars in Mumbai are more interested in being the Maharsahtra Chief Minister than any other job.
Originally posted by ANNIYAN: BCCI should pay Greg Chappell the remaining money due till WC, and let him go. Basically buy him out of his contract. The way things stand we are 100% not going to win with him as coach. Might as well try without him. The result will probably be the same, but there is upside potential there.
Tom Moody has done much better with SL. So the selection comittee of gavaskar, venkatraghavan et al made a bug blunder when they selected Greg over Moody.
This was pointed out at the time. Not that any of the Indian forumers wanted to listen ... all seemed blinded by Chappell's superior Test performances.
The reason why Chappell was sought by Idnian fans was ebcause it was felt he alone was strong enough to take our pampered and unfit superstars to task. This was the time when Ganguly despite test failures was a dictator, Zaheer, Bhajji and Sehwag their unperforming blue eyed boys, and a time when talenetd youngsters were not getting a look in. Chappell succeeded briefly in that aspect. But he went about the job using wrong processes and with too much experimentation and chopping and changing. In the end, his failure as coach is more as he made players more insecure and as result more selfish, and here the team has suffered massively. Plus he has proved too stubborn and inflexible further compounding the problems.
I don't see how we could have gained with Moody as coach if he went the Wright way and chose to play along. Imagine the last 2 years with Ganguly still the non-performing megalomaniac captain and the non-performing blue eyed boys in his team not being put through the grind? Given the murky circumstances of Dalmiya and Pawar politics in the background, either coach was a disaster waiting to happen.
The Moody-Lanka team after a torrid losing start seems to be charting the Wright-India way of getting some decent results overseas. But like India, Lanka too has some Jamodi wins to contend with along side a couple of test wins in drawn rubbers overseas.
I think a much clearer picture of who would have ben apt will emerge in the next round of India-Lanka one dayers next month and finally in the World Cup.
Originally posted by ANNIYAN: BCCI should pay Greg Chappell the remaining money due till WC, and let him go. Basically buy him out of his contract. The way things stand we are 100% not going to win with him as coach. Might as well try without him. The result will probably be the same, but there is upside potential there.
Tom Moody has done much better with SL. So the selection comittee of gavaskar, venkatraghavan et al made a bug blunder when they selected Greg over Moody.
This was pointed out at the time. Not that any of the Indian forumers wanted to listen ... all seemed blinded by Chappell's superior Test performances.
'any' is the wrong word. i was pushing for moody at the time the candidates were announced. chappell had a far from impressive record as coach, esp in comparison to tom
Originally posted by ANNIYAN: BCCI should pay Greg Chappell the remaining money due till WC, and let him go. Basically buy him out of his contract. The way things stand we are 100% not going to win with him as coach. Might as well try without him. The result will probably be the same, but there is upside potential there.
Tom Moody has done much better with SL. So the selection comittee of gavaskar, venkatraghavan et al made a bug blunder when they selected Greg over Moody.
This was pointed out at the time. Not that any of the Indian forumers wanted to listen ... all seemed blinded by Chappell's superior Test performances.
SL are doing well against NZ at the moment - but SL had a great run against teams which were just as poor in ODI's. In the ICC tourney - they played well in the initial qualifying and fell over the first tough hurdle - so they've still got a long way to go.
Chappel is not the lone blame - his constant changes in the ODI and Test teams is one area he needs to be criticised for - but he's been quite tough apparently with the players to deliver - in the end if the players cannot - then it is THEY not the coach who has to take the rap. I expect much of the Indian press never to rap Indian players but look for scape goats elsewhere.
Originally posted by ANNIYAN: BCCI should pay Greg Chappell the remaining money due till WC, and let him go. Basically buy him out of his contract. The way things stand we are 100% not going to win with him as coach. Might as well try without him. The result will probably be the same, but there is upside potential there.
Tom Moody has done much better with SL. So the selection comittee of gavaskar, venkatraghavan et al made a bug blunder when they selected Greg over Moody.
This was pointed out at the time. Not that any of the Indian forumers wanted to listen ... all seemed blinded by Chappell's superior Test performances.
'any' is the wrong word. i was pushing for moody at the time the candidates were announced. chappell had a far from impressive record as coach, esp in comparison to tom
OK, 'many'. I remember SG in particular giving me a bollocking for suggesting that Moody would be a better coach, and questioning Chappell's authoritarian style and man management skills.
I do agree that at this level the coach isn't anywhere near as important as the captain or indeed the players.
Cricket is just one of those sports(unlike say baseball or basketball) where once the game starts there is little the coach can do to change the on field play.
India lost the series because tendulkar an dravid decided not to score for a couple of hours.
No coach can teach those blokes how to bat better it's up to them to read the situation and they didn't do it well enough.
I remember SG in particular giving me a bollocking for suggesting that Moody would be a better coach
I'm sorry lardy, if I sounded like that, but as someone pointed out, SL's overseas record under Moody hasn't been too impressive, certainly not as impressive as it should've been judging by how highly he was held on this forum. Yep he has 2 drawn overseas series in Eng and NZ to his credit (?), but then Chappell too hasn't been that bad for India.
Under him, India lost 0-1 to Pak in Pak, won 1-0 in WI for the first time in 3.5 decades and actually won their first ever test in SAm, before losing tamely 1-2 to SA, though who know SA cricket will vouch how tough is it to beat SA in SA, especially for subcon teams (all 4 subcon teams have won just 2 tests in last 14 years there, forget about the series).
Cricket is just one of those sports(unlike say baseball or basketball) where once the game starts there is little the coach can do to change the on field play.
Sounds little weird from you, as didn't you give Chappell a lot of credit after India's win at Wanderers?
I actually think that Chappell has worked very hard for India, even though results may not be all that favourable for him, though I think where he (as a part of Indian think tank and hence Dravid has equal blame to share) has completely failed in is his stubborness in persisting or not persisting with some players. Thats what has cost India very dearly in last few months.
