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What sort of back surgery? It does seem unlikely that he could return after this.
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india is never gona produce good fast bowlers
theres too much media hypebout any1 hu can bowl at 135k
Indian pacers bowl on flat tracks and always lookin to beat the bat by pure swing and never pace. Players like Pathan need to play 2 full seasons county cricket to get their fitness up there then they will come good. Look at zaheer
look at pathan...middlesex used him as a number 3 batter and he use to bowl at 135-140 kph too... no tv add no aloo waleh paranthe...jus pure fitness training
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quote: Originally posted by *Chandan*:
Ash,
These guys need opportunities at A level by competing strong Aus A or SA A squad in their conditions. After that those who perform well can certainly be included in the national team.
But we need a trained coach to keep guiding them, not letting them get confused by number of advices given to them and to build on their firness and strength. Until this professional step is not taken, talent after talent will keep vanishing.
My point is stated here by MAKARAND WAINGANKAR who is the CEO of Baroda at the moment. quote: We are overlooking the fact that first Sreesanth and now Munaf Patel have returned to India injured, and if the injury-description in the BCCI's press release is accurate then India will struggle in England. Fast bowling is all about mental make-up. Whether they are well-built or not, they have to be aggressive all the time and for that to happen they have to be physically and mentally fit.
Proper handling
All they need is proper handling which is so very essential, especially to bowlers from the sub-continent. Hardly anyone realises that for a bowler to reach the top and perform in the busy schedule, he has to bowl on appalling pitches and hard outfields.
People who doubt Munaf Patel's integrity would realise what the boy must have gone through if one visits the ground where he started bowling. With a population of less than 8000, his village in Palej (Bharuch district in Gujarat) has a ground that is so hard that a ball bounces more on the outfield than on the pitch that is not a turf. Having played all his cricket on hard grounds and fields, Munaf Patel's body has been subjected to work which no fast bowler would have gone through. If the team management thought of Munaf Patel as the main bowler for the England tour, he should have been rested.
The problem with Indian cricket is that we don't have a process of identifying, nurturing and monitoring the progress of fast bowlers. The NCA, with Kapil Dev as the Chairman, should have focussed on the development of fast bowlers. Instead, the focus is on developing coaches.
We have enough unemployed qualified NCA coaches but not even a dozen fit fast bowlers who could last a couple of seasons. Why is the BCCI averse to getting Dennis Lillee involved when he has been visiting India for more than two decades and knows the mental make-up and physical capability of Indian fast bowlers?
Recovery period
Lillee would be the first to admit that even he wouldn't have lasted bowling every week in an international match. There has to be a recovery period for fast bowlers and the fact is that they don't get even a week to recuperate. Indian fast bowling is in a terrible mess.
At a time when fast bowlers have been winning matches when it matters, Indian fast bowlers are struggling with injuries. Appointing a bowling coach is no solution to problems fast bowlers face in India. There has to be a performance-enhancement wing for fast bowlers.
An Indian physio, Dr. Nitin Patel, is with the ECB for working out a rehabilitation process for fast bowlers so that they can perform better. We need such physios if our fast bowlers are to be fit and bowl fast.
Until and unless we do not have this system of nurturing and monitoring the developing pacers, bowlers after bowlers will keep vanishing! |
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quote: Originally posted by *Chandan*: Coming soon a better Munaf PatelAt first I thought he too got some sponsorships and his look will be changed. But thank God that it is about his bowling. MRF Pace Foundation coach T A Sekar told The Indian Express: “He has still not reached his peak. When he starts bowling at 140-145 km/h consistently, that is when you will see Munaf at his best. He has to give some finishing touches to his action. When he comes back to MRF, we will be working on it. You will definitely see a better Munaf.” But he'll get time to work on those areas only if he gets sufficient break from the national duties. That seems unlikely!!
Well, I hope Sekhar was right. |
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Oh btw, if Bose is to be picked it has to be now. He's about 28 years old and in the form of his life. Wait too long and I don't think he'll be able to sustain that level of performance.
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I recently noted something really wrong with Irfan when viewing some old tapes of the ODI's in SA. He seemed to be puffing up before began his run-up, trying hard to be telegenic perhaps but a very wrong move. There wasn't a soul to advise/admonish him at that time not to try such antics and just be natural even if he might not have been at his telegenic best initially. Not just that he holds that puffed up posture through his runup. And finally when he is at the crease he doesn't have a side-on action but is forced to be front-on due to the anomalies in his run-up.  |
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Srinath asks bowlers not to give up speedInteresting thoughts by him: "This line and length thing is more of a one-day stuff," he said. "It is important, but you cannot be compromising on pace. "Till the age of 28, pace has to be on the upswing unless there is any real injury problem."
Srinath, a genuine quick at his prime, was referring to Munaf Patel and Irfan Pathan, two of the most promising among the young pacemen who have played for India in the last few seasons.
"If you bowl less, you are bound to get injured," he said. "You must bowl 1,000 first-class overs in a year to strengthen the muscles."
"In general, people get injured 60-70 per cent because of less bowling."----------------------------- Very interesting! People get injured because they've been bowling less? I hope Munaf and Pathan are listening and the other new pacers also take a lesson!
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THE INDIAN ATTACK'S BACKBONE CRUMBLES TOO OFTEN FOR COMFORT. WHY?Lack of guidance, lack of facility (as most of the bowlers are coming from smaller centres where they don't have training facilities in their formative years) and too much cricket are the reasons for these injuries! I'll say that lack of proper handling is another decisive factor in fast bowlers getting finished by the time they are 23-24 years old! Read the article!
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Some good points made by Srinath, this line and length thing is an easy way out.
Now let's play cricket......
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quote: Originally posted by *Chandan*: A rookie bowler, named Alfred Absolem from Hyderabad, routed Punjab today, at Hyderabad. I wonder if it was just a fluke, or the wicket was too green; but a stats of : A Absolem 12 4 35 7 2.91 is certainly impressive.
This bowler was snapped up by ICL two days back!! |
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Better than snapping an ACL
I've prepared for the worst case scenario ...but it could be even worse than that
Some People are like slinkies. Not really good for anything but they bring a smile to your face when pushed down the stairs.
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Zaheer and RP are two of the finest pace bowlers in india, they haev done so well of alte and should always opent he attack together, I still think Sree santh is awsome and really want him to be in there but then there is PATHTAN now makig a come back, and there can only be enough room for three pace men in any india team, so the three lefties suit nicely but then Sree Santh would also be too good an asset to miss as is munaf patel, too many choies for the third but really none besides my favourite opening pair have had any sort of consistency of late.
Lex: I know you, you've stolen from me before
Bart: I want a lawyer
Lex: And I want a ponytail....dissapointment abounds
BRILLIANT
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