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Did Jadeja hit a ton in tests?
 
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No matter how many times something is shown to be rubbish, some people just keep repeating it.


My thoughts every time I read what a great knowledge of cricket that Leo has....


I've prepared for the worst case scenario ...but it could be even worse than that

Some People are like slinkies. Not really good for anything but they bring a smile to your face when pushed down the stairs.

 
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May I introduce you to the cricinfo statsguru?
 
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Martyn Moxon - scored 99 vs NZ

Actually scored another 2 runs off his bat but the umps gave it as leg-byes!


Very unlucky.

a few other nominations ...

Barry Wood
John Jameson
Alec Tudor
Julien Wiener
Kerry O'Keeffe


and a host of South Africans


Brian Close - top score of 70 in 22 tests.
 
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Michael Bevan.

He did play 18 Tests - enough to be more than an 'unlucky first class player'.

He made 6 fifties in those 18 Test but never went higher than 91.

Cheers.


They should have had a zero bouncer rule for the poor fella, he would have made a few for sure.
 
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Worst batsman to score a double century is Jason Gillespie (Aus)

Does that make any sense? Guess not!
 
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Clearly the answer to this question is Michael Bevan.
 
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Les Joslin.
 
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Clearly the answer to this question is Michael Bevan.
That would be "Best ODI batsman to never score a test hundred".
 
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Clearly the answer to this question is Michael Bevan.
That would be "Best ODI batsman to never score a test hundred".


He is also the answer to that question.

20,000+ First Class runs at an average of 57 speaks for itself.
 
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Clearly the answer to this question is Michael Bevan.
That would be "Best ODI batsman to never score a test hundred".


He is also the answer to that question.

20,000+ First Class runs at an average of 57 speaks for itself.
But Bevan was basically found out at test level. Did not appear to have the tools to survive the short of length stuff from the test class bowlers.
 
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Since he was dropped from the test team 8 years ago, Bevan has averaged about 60 in first class cricket. He didn't even get a chance to show that he had fixed this so called weakness against short bowling.
 
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Since he was dropped from the test team 8 years ago, Bevan has averaged about 60 in first class cricket. He didn't even get a chance to show that he had fixed this so called weakness against short bowling.
Possibly. Age was against him as well as there many other youngsters in the reckoning.
 
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Since he was dropped from the test team 8 years ago, Bevan has averaged about 60 in first class cricket. He didn't even get a chance to show that he had fixed this so called weakness against short bowling.
Possibly. Age was against him as well as there many other youngsters in the reckoning.


Whilst Bevan did have a problem with the short ball particularly early in his career IMO it is a shame he did not get to play more for Aus.

As has been mentioned a FC average of 57 is not to be completely sneezed at. Although the way some people carry on you'd imagine the bouncer has been outlawed in FC cricket.

I always rate it a shame when a country fails to get the best out of one of its talented players. And IMO this is what happened to an extent with Bevan.

Still I think Eng have been much worse than Aus on this over the past 20 years.
 
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Bevan played more tests than he should have, not less.

I'm not necessarily saying he isn't the answer to the question - it is not a large or talented field - but some rose-tinted glasses on show here IMHO. The man wasn't good enough at test level.


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Since he was dropped from the test team 8 years ago, Bevan has averaged about 60 in first class cricket. He didn't even get a chance to show that he had fixed this so called weakness against short bowling.


He didn't do much against the Queensland seam attack in the early 2000s, JGK. I seem to remember one season where he averaged 80 against everyone else and 3 against us.

Maybe it was not because he was still ordinary against good seam bowling - but it is not an unreasonable conjecture.


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I agree when you think of some of the middle order talent that never got a proper go bevan got more than enough chances.

It was only taylors slump and his spin that kept him in for so long.

He's not the first player found out by the better test bowlers and belting runs in first class cricket can't undo what teams like south africa and the west indies did to him.
 
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whose spot should he have taken?

and when?

from 98 on the waughs owned 2 middle order spots and the faith shown in ponting at number 6 gave us bigger rewards than we would have got from bevo.
 
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I agree when you think of some of the middle order talent that never got a proper go bevan got more than enough chances.

It was only taylors slump and his spin that kept him in for so long.

He's not the first player found out by the better test bowlers and belting runs in first class cricket can't undo what teams like south africa and the west indies did to him.


He actually went okay v the Windies, to be fair - 87* on a dodgy pitch in Perth is nothing to sneer at.

The English demolished him twice though.


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87* on a dodgy pitch in Perth


It only looked dodgy when MtFTB batted on it .....


I've prepared for the worst case scenario ...but it could be even worse than that

Some People are like slinkies. Not really good for anything but they bring a smile to your face when pushed down the stairs.

 
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He should have at least gone to India in 2001 (and to the subcontinent before then).
 
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87* on a dodgy pitch in Perth


It only looked dodgy when MtFTB batted on it .....


Thats not what I or Tubby Taylor or anyone else recalls... but whatever. Cool

JGK-

I could agree with that, if there had been an opening in India 2001. But Marto was in such good form at that time that I just can't see room for Bevo in the squad.


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he would have just been found out a few months later in england.

Anyway our ashes middle order all averaged about 70 so bevan can't complain.

maybe having ponting in for india was a mkstake but as i said he's repaid that faith so it was worth keeping him in the mix.
 
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Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Ponting had made a lot of runs in Sri Lanka in 1999 - I don't recall anyone at the time suggesting he would struggle against the spinners.

Matt Hayden was the one people wanted to drop at that point... I said he was a better player of spin than pace, but would anybody listen... ouch.

Nothing serious. Just put my shoulder out patting myself on the back. Wink


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yeah true, i remember during the bangladesh series gavaskar saying ponting has never made runs in asia.

he made runs vs pakistan in 02 and on the last two sri lankan tours it's india where he's clueless.
 
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