Why didn't you include Liverpool in that list as well, surely LFC are better than Man U and Arsenal as well as a more well known club.

hmm i don't think they are better than Arsenal or Man U they belong in the etc bit.

My ranking of current English teams would be:

Chelsea
Man U
Arsenal/Liverpool

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Originally posted by Gain:
surely LFC are better than Man U

Nah

Who ends up winning the last 2 Serie A then?

It's a complete travesty - how do matches get fixed without player involvement and the punishment only seems to affect the clubs.

I'm appalled at the light sentence - especially considering considering how English clubs have been penalised in the past because of crowd behaviour whihc they have no control over.

Mutu
Toni
Gamberini
Ujfalusi
Pasqual
Frey

Oddo
Liverani

Buffon
Cannavaro
Zambrotta
Thuram
Vieira
Emerson
Nedved
Camoranesi
Ibrahimovic
Del Piero
Trezeguet

Missed anyone?

I think Milan will hold onto most of their players. I still expect them to compete for the title even with their big points deduction. Nesta, Kaka, Gattuso and Pirlo will be in demand though.

I think Milan will hold onto most of their players i think they have the financial muscle to keep their top players, they can probably also win the league.

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Originally posted by JayPatel:
It's a complete travesty - how do matches get fixed without player involvement and the punishment only seems to affect the clubs.

The club owners influenced referees to give decisions in their favour. There's no suggestion of player involvement.

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Originally posted by Makaveli:
I think Milan will hold onto most of their players i think they have the financial muscle to keep their top players, they can probably also win the league.

Absolutely. They finished 12 pts clear of Inter last season so the 15 pt deficit doesn't neccesarily rule them out of the title race.

It'll be interesting to see which players Inter, Roma and Milan sign from the three relegated teams. Ibrahimovic is supposed to be close to signing for Inter already. I see they have Grosso (from Palermo) as well.