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Crystal ball gazing:

Australia: my choice:

Hayden
Langer
Ponting
Martyn (with some reservations)
Hussey
Hussey (a punt, but why not?)
Gilchrist
Warne
Lee
McGrath
Clark

12th: Bracken

In the wings for the series - Jaques, Macgill and Griffith.
 
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Couple of major IFs here:

Tres
Johann
Cook
KP
Wobbles
Fred (c)
GoJo (w)
Gilo
Harmi
SiJo
Hoggy

Else in the 16: Ding Dong, Jimmy, Monty, Plunks, Read
 
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The choice for me would be between Hodge or Symonds. Last year Australia paid by not using Hussey and McGill, both in the squad at the time. I think Bracken is more suited to the one day stuff.
 
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Originally posted by Mister Robby:
Couple of major IFs here:

Tres
Johann
Cook
KP
Wobbles
Fred (c)
GoJo (w)
Gilo
Harmi
SiJo
Hoggy

Else in the 16: Ding Dong, Jimmy, Monty, Plunks, Read
I have a feeling Simon Jones could be back also.


A fan of Mike Walker!!!!!
 
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JGK
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A combination of McGrath, Lee and Bracken could be a handful at the Gabba.
 
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As could Hoggard, Harmison, Flintoff and Simon Jones/Anderson. Bounce and swing at the gabba.


A fan of Mike Walker!!!!!
 
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If I had to put a bet on who will be playing i'd go for:

Hayden
Langer
Ponting*
Martyn
Hussey
Clarke
Gilchrist+
Warne
Lee
Clark
McGrath

against

Trescothick
Strauss
Cook
Pietersen
Collingwood
Flintoff*
G Jones+
Giles
Hoggard
Harmison
Anderson

Form and fitness permitting in many cases. Can't wait for it to start but the England / Pakistan series is shaping up nicely for the moment.
 
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Who are Johann and Wobbles? And what about Ding-dong--who is he?
 
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Originally posted by *Chandan*:
Who are Johann and Wobbles? And what about Ding-dong--who is he?


They're England's secret weapons for the Ashes!

Think its code for Johann (Strauss), Collingwood or (Colly)Wobbles and Ding-Dong (Bell).

But England might struggle if the Burnley Bullet, Hard Core, Jonah and the King of Spain don't make it on the plane...
 
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What of the eminent Australian all rounder, Jason Gillespie? You'll drop a double centurion?

And Dizzy can still bowl well, keeping it tight or attacking.
 
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I was trying to predict who I think will play rather than who I would pick. Gillespie's batting is stubborn but I doubt he'll be a major run-scorer against England and he's been short of wickets in his recent appearances for Aus and in the County Championship this year. If his form picks up then he'd be a contender but you've got to go with Clark initially I think bearing in mind his impressive form in South Africa.
 
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Ideal Australian side:

Langer
Hayden
*Ponting
Love
Hussey
Martyn
+Gilchrist
Warne
Lee
Gillespie/Bracken
McGrath


Realistic one:

Langer
Hayden
*Ponting
Martyn
Hussey
Katich
+Gilchrist
Warne
Lee
Clark
McGrath

Clark probably deserves a go, even though Dizzy seems to be stepping up a gear for Yorkshire in this current game. I'd rather see Simon Katich than either Clarke or Hodge.

Stuart MacGill should play in Sydney and perhaps in Perth if the pitch is the same as last year. His record in Adelaide is pretty wretched though, so I'd be inclined to give him a miss there.


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Ideal Australian side:

Langer
Hayden
*Ponting
Love
Hussey
Martyn
+Gilchrist
Warne
Lee
Gillespie/Bracken
McGrath


Leo - Surely that ideal side would have the asterix next to Warnes name and not Pontings ?
 
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Realistic one:

Langer
Hayden
*Ponting
Martyn
Hussey
Katich
+Gilchrist
Warne
Lee
Clark
McGrath


Also do you "realistically" think the Aus selectors will pick Katich ahead of both Clarke and Watson ?

Irrespective of opinions on all 3 (and I was interested to note your regard for Katich) I would not read the tea leaves in the way that you seem to.
 
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Hayden
Langer
Ponting
Hussey
Hodge
Gilchrist
Warne
Lee
Clark
McGrath
McGill
v
Trescothick
Strauss
Cook
Pietersen
Collingwood
Flintoff
Read
Giles
Harmison
Hoggard
Anderson
 
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I cannot understand all this "faith" with respect to Warne's captaincy credentials.

Personality wise Warne is one vain self centred individual who prefers the centre stage to himself all the time. Such characters don't make good captains IMO.
 
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Originally posted by Josh Carney:
I cannot understand all this "faith" with respect to Warne's captaincy credentials.

Personality wise Warne is one vain self centred individual who prefers the centre stage to himself all the time. Such characters don't make good captains IMO.


His excellent record with Australia and Hampshire for starters. He has an astute cricketing brain and isn't afraid to take risks.

You could argue other successful captains such as Imran Khan, Arjuna Ranatunga, Saurav Ganguly, Douglas Jardine, etc. were seen by others as vain and self-centred but I think its more important the captain has the respect of players, which I think Warne would have.
 
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Langer
North
Hussey (c)
Ponting
Martyn
Hogg
Gilchrist
Warne
Gillespie
Dorey
McGrath


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Warne's teammates at all levels seem to go on and on about how helpful he is to new players and teammates so not sure what you are driving at josh.
 
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Leo
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Originally posted by GordoninPortsmouth:
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Ideal Australian side:

Langer
Hayden
*Ponting
Love
Hussey
Martyn
+Gilchrist
Warne
Lee
Gillespie/Bracken
McGrath


Leo - Surely that ideal side would have the asterix next to Warnes name and not Pontings ?


Actually, it would probably have it next to Hussey or Gilchrist, who I suspect would do an equally sound job without the embarrassing off field antics. Good point though.

In response to your second post - of people who the selectors will consider, that is probably the team I would put out for the first test. It is not the one I expect them to pick, but it is the one I would like to see given their biases.

As you say, Clarke and Watson are probably in front of Katich in their eyes. They may even prefer Tait to Clark if there is enough crack still circulating in the NSP.


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Leo
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Replace 'like to see' with 'hope to see'. It's the best I could hope for from this NSP, put it that way.

On a really bad day, I wouldn't put it past this bunch to play Clarke, Symonds and Tait and leave Martyn and Clark out.


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The NSP could be worse...you could be on it.


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Turn it up.

If I'd been on the NSP Mike Hussey would have been picked in 2002, Bracken would have gone to England, and we'd still have the Ashes. Razz


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Originally posted by Sheikh Rattlenroll:
Langer
North
Hussey (c)
Ponting
Martyn
Hogg
Gilchrist
Warne
Gillespie
Dorey
McGrath


Wot, only 7 Wozzies!
 
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Mike Hussey would have been picked in 2002


Why?

He was out of form and our top 6 at that time was solid


South Australia :The Santa Al State
 
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