Selfish parents. Thats all I can say. Selfish selfish selfish.
What the hell is wrong with that blonde harridan?
She has no children herself and yet utters such rubbish as "You don't need to pick up a baby", "I don't want to see people breastfeeding", "babies are manipulative, you should make them fit in with your life".
If you want your life "back to normal" within 24 hours then don't have a baby!! I was so shocked at this awful attitude.
And as for leaving a newborn in the garden on their own for 3 hours with the door shut, I'd phone Social Services!
I follow attachment parenting, my son is the most contented happy baby you could wish to meet and I would not swap one sleepless night, I have loved every minute of his 10 months of life so far!
If anyone I know was following this "method" of selfishly neglecting, sorry "raising" their newborn I would be on the phone to Social Services. I am shocked and appalled at Channel 4.
I was horrified by this woman. I cannot believe that people would pay her upto £1000 per day and allow her to ruin precious moments that will never happen again. If people want their lives back then why have kids? Kids change your life - period.
This woman has learnt all she knows out of a book and that is wrong wrong wrong. ANYTHING could happen to baby when it is shoved outside byitself for hours on end. A baby crys for a reason and is not manipulative. A baby crys to express itself in the only way it knows how and to get mothers attention as mother nature intended.
What utter utter tripe. I know this is an "experiment" but it is appalling and horrifying to watch. As a childcare professional myself, if I was to treat a baby in that manner I would be prosecuted for neglect/abuse and I would not be working in the childcare sector ever again. As a mother - if she came near me and my kids - god help her.
I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR WHAT THOSE PERANTS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT PAYING STUPID AMOUNTS OF MONEY WHICH COULD HAVE BEEN SPENT ON THEIR CHILDS FUTURE INSTED OF SPENT LEARNING TO NEGLET THEIR NEWBORNS?????
Anyone who treats kids like she wants shouldnt be allowed to have them. Babys must come first and there should be nothing that is more important than their health and safety.
I would think theres a danger from foxes and bee/wasp stings leaving a baby outside.
There are several threads on this subject and I do not want to duplicate what I have written elsewhere. However, I must urge all those who are as disgusted as I am with C4 for giving this woman a platform on national TV to make a formal complaint to Ofcom. I know it is only the first of 4 episodes and I am undoubtedly sure that the programme makers will be able to demonstrate some "value" in her dubious techniques, however, the strength of feeling that as already been generated following the first episode is a clear indication that this programme should be investigated.
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Originally posted by Kreef: This blonde witch should be shot and killed on the spot. I've put in a complaint with Channel 4 and this is there response...(you don't want to read it if you thought that it might have been stopped):Thank you for contacting Channel 4 Viewer Enquiries regarding BRINGING UP BABY.
This programme was made to be a thoughtful and responsible observation of different methods of childcare. There have been conflicting and different views in this area for many years and it is, without doubt, a valid area for exploration in a television programme. The series is not setting out to promote any particular method of childcare, but rather to explore and contrast them.
All the parents involved were asked what style of child rearing interested them, the methods were then described in general terms, highlighting the guiding principals, each family then chose the method which most closely related to their instinctual choice. Each family reported that they were happy with the childcare method they chose and are still continuing with it.
We can assure you, that we take the welfare of the children in this series, as with all programmes, very seriously. Various medical experts including a GP and consultant paediatrician were consulted and the babies received the usual regular health visitor checks.
Please be assured that your complaint has been noted and logged for the attention of the Channel 4 producers.
Thank you again for taking the time to contact us. We appreciate all feedback from our viewers; complimentary or otherwise.
They say they take the welfare of the children in the series very seriously and have had medical experts and paediatricians as consultants to make sure them children are ok. But what about the minds of those parents that are watching it. Life is hard for them and they see this woman and think her way is acceptible but its not.
This program is not considering the welfare of the children whos parents learn from this. These are the ones who wont have medical experts watching over them to make sure they are safe/healthy.
Originally posted by pixie wings fairy dust: I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR WHAT THOSE PERANTS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT PAYING STUPID AMOUNTS OF MONEY WHICH COULD HAVE BEEN SPENT ON THEIR CHILDS FUTURE INSTED OF SPENT LEARNING TO NEGLET THEIR NEWBORNS?????
If I had the money I would pay double her fee to keep her away from babies and their parents. The five year old girl had more sense. Truby King had no idea about brain development when he advocated his childcare regimes. I'm sure if he was around know, with the knowledge we have, there's no way he would advocate such a abuse and neglect now. This idea belongs in the past. Next thing we know Verity will be telling us to smoke because it doesn't do any harm!
I understand it's a good idea to compare parenting techniques but you can't do it in a short period of time, we need decades. Also Verity shouldn't even be an option, her ideas a disgusting and neglectful. This kind of treatment can cause brain damage. Romanian orphans starved of cuddles and affection when scanned show actually missing brain parts. Verity is right when she says babies attention seek, that's innate because attention helps create a healthy happy human being. They observe us ebing sociable and caring towards each other and to them and that's how they learn to be. Verity way is a good start if you fancy a shelf full of ASBOS and a poor teenager with low self worth and mental health issues. They deserve and require love and affection. Parents who think it's a good idea despite being informed of the risks shouldn't ever have children. Stop being so bloody selfish. parents who are responsive and loving will have the last laugh. So what they miss out on a glass of wine in the evening with the background sound of a distressed and in pain (because for a baby separation is genuinely painful. The chemicals release will damage the wiring up of the brain) an evening of yummy cuddles, gazing into beautiful eyes is not only wanderful but helping create a loving healthy child.
Last night the air was blue in my house, and my keyboard red hot. OFCOM and anyone else I can think of have been complaied to today.
I know the moderators delete links to external websites so I haven't inserted a link. Just do a google search for ofcom and it will take you to their website where you can log your complaint.
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I've been upset and angry all night about this woman and the couple who allowed her to be vile and cold to their newborn baby.
I've just had a baby, eight weeks ago and to watch the parents allowing this woman to put the baby in the garden for 3 hours (with the door shut)had me in tears, and also turning the air blue. I am sooooo annoyed. I have never had a programme affect me like this one has.
This blonde woman has an evil streak in her to suggest that you dont hold a baby close, kiss a baby, you have to leave a baby to cry, put your baby outside.! utter cruelty.
So what happens in the worst case scenario the baby has an illness come on..meningitis or something life threatening..how would they know?
If my baby cries, obviously I pick her up care for her. How on earth can that not be anything other than normal?
I blame the couple for allowing this woman access to inflict this cruelty on their baby. If they wanted a regimented lifestyle of times and everything in order they should have joined the blimming army instead of having children.
They should be reported to Social Services for child cruelty the lot of them, including Channel 4 for allowing this to happen.
THE SHOW WAS MADE TO QUESTION WHAT IS THE 'RIGHT' WAY TO BRING UP A BABY-THERE IS NO 'RIGHT' WAY, BUT THERE IS A WRONG WAY! AND THAT IS THE NEGLETFULL METHOD FROM THE 1950s.
Im was shocked too. I have 2 children one 14 years and the other 1 year. I was shocked that she put that new born baby girl outside with just a blanket in the cold for 3 hours and left that baby to cry. I must say if I did that or anyone else I know someone would of phoned the social services. I didn't agree with the fact that she wouldn't let the parents or the babies sister cuddle her, I personally think the woman should be charged with child neglect, I wouldn't pay 1,000 a day for her to abuse my new born baby. I was very poorly when I was born found it hard to bond with my mother I had to stay in hospital 2 weeks after I was born, and I never bonded with my mother, I has an adult suffer from depression and bad anxiety, my parents gave me a strict routine like this woman does and it in my opinion has caused my terrible childhood and adulthood I never felt loved I felt like I was a burden to my parents. How does she expect the baby to learn communication, when they aren't allowed to cuddle or talk to their baby. I can understand the need for routine but that was ridiculous and no baby is born knowing what time it is. The parents of the baby girl were crying and she wouldn't let them go to their baby and I think that wasn't right it's their baby.
I wonder if people have started filing complaints to the NSPCC, yet, against this woman? It reminds me of the toddler in their commercial quietly calling for 'mama', then, the announcer saying he didn't cry anymore because he learned nobody was going to come.
Yep I've emailed NSPCC, the AIMH (Association of Infant Mental Health), and the Department of Health too. I get the comparing ideas thing, but Verity's ideas just shouldn't even enter the arena as an option.
I agree with you all that Claire Verity is appalling but I think Channel 4 obviously chose her to create the controversy it has caused. You can guarantee that everyone is talking about it and everyone will be glued to their tv for the next episode and the rest of the series. Of course it is neglectful to leave a child outside in the garden unsupervised ... has poor Madeline McCann's disappearance taught us nothing?
Saying all that, I thought the 1970s method was all a bit too touchy feely for my personal liking. Personally I think the child should feel loved, should be attended to, but also benefits from being able to settle itself without being attached to one of its parents at all times. I personally found the Gina Ford routine was excellent and I have a perfectly contented little daughter to testify to it, however I, like any other parent I know who uses a routine like it, only took what I felt was right from the routine (one, I hasten to add, that is a lot more humane than Claire's routine) and went with my instinct as well. I only hope that this programme doesn't put parents off all types of routines because they are not all as barbaric as that 1950s routine.
I don't usually admire anyone on reality tv (to be honest, I usually scorn them!) but I quite admire the parents for allowing themselves to be filmed at such a life changing and stressful time in their lives. I tried not to be a smug parent when one of the mothers claimed that the baby would fit into their lives and not change their lives (I bet she'll answer that differently now!) but I felt so much for that poor woman who had had a difficult birth and was having difficulty breastfeeding. It brought me back to that awful time I had breastfeeding and I hope it worked out better for her in the end. I'm sure we'll all be watching next week's episode avidly!
I have a 13 month old son who could not come home with me till he was 3 weeks old. On the first night home the only way he went to sleep was by lying on me (and we tried everything even a car ride and nothing worked) so how can this woman say that you can not hold your child. My son would never have slept as it was all so strange to him and the only familiar thing was my heart beat. I do think that some times leaving my son to cry is a good thing but this is only since he has been 10 months old as some night when he has been put to bed all he wants is to come back down and play as he can here my neighbours children playing in the garden but i would never leave a new born child crying it is cruel. If that woman just let the child demand when it wanted feeding and not forcing it in to a routine from day one it will find its own routine anyway. My son wanted feeding every 4 hours from 2 weeks and went to bed at 8pm and slept through till 7am from 9 weeks all because he was allowed to fix a routine that suited him if i had tried to inpose one on him i think that he would have never settled in to it. I now have one very happy, outgoing mischevious little boy and i love him the way he is and would never let that woman near him she would only have made him a very sad introverted child.
First i would like to say i am a very good freind of Matt and Vicky, i know some people are not happy with the fact they are following the Trudy King method, however Mia is not suffering from a lack of attention at all and is growing into a very loved and well rounded baby without displaying any signs of behavial difficulties, she is to be honest a quite lovely and happy baby, so to those who do not agree with the methods- did anyone tell you how to bring your children up? i doubt it very much, child raising is not all in a book and you make your own rules as you go and give that child the best possible start in life you can, and with this in mind i would like to congratulate Vicky and Matt as this is what they are doing, now i know Lady Moonlight does not agree with this method as she has been very vocal in this matter, and is practically a god in child raising (or to listen to the busy body you would think she is) but as i say how would she like someone putting her down it sounds to me like you were turned down for a show and cannot stand the thought of anyone else being involved. Oh yes and whilst i am on the subject with a name like Lady Midnight you sound like a Devil worshiper AND YOU HAVE KIDS i wonder if you are being watched??? To end i would like to say congratulations to Vicky and Matt on bringing up such a lovely child
Originally posted by smiggy001: First i would like to say i am a very good freind of Matt and Vicky, i know some people are not happy with the fact they are following the Trudy King method, however Mia is not suffering from a lack of attention at all and is growing into a very loved and well rounded baby without displaying any signs of behavial difficulties, she is to be honest a quite lovely and happy baby, so to those who do not agree with the methods- did anyone tell you how to bring your children up? i doubt it very much, child raising is not all in a book and you make your own rules as you go and give that child the best possible start in life you can, and with this in mind i would like to congratulate Vicky and Matt as this is what they are doing, now i know Lady Moonlight does not agree with this method as she has been very vocal in this matter, and is practically a god in child raising (or to listen to the busy body you would think she is) but as i say how would she like someone putting her down it sounds to me like you were turned down for a show and cannot stand the thought of anyone else being involved. Oh yes and whilst i am on the subject with a name like Lady Midnight you sound like a Devil worshiper AND YOU HAVE KIDS i wonder if you are being watched??? To end i would like to say congratulations to Vicky and Matt on bringing up such a lovely child
Again, Im afraid Tuesdays episode did know show any of this and this method forces a baby to be content. Its the later years that will show the effects, and if from what they showed they went along with Claires stupid rules then Im afraid neglecting a newborn is not something to congradulate. Sorry, but they should have expected a massive response like this when they agreed to follow "Miss.I have no children but perants still take my crazy methods-and pay me styupid money for it!"
But Mia must still be less than 12 months old - how on earth can you know she hasnt been damaged. Personally i think the should check up on these babies again at 5 and again as adults. I can guarentee you that Mia and the other 50's babies on the show will have far far higher levels of stress hormones and are likely to not form attachments easily. How anyone can honestly believe that neglecting a baby can be good for them is beyond me - i think your friends should be very very ashamed of themselves and I hope they can forgive thmeselves when their daughter asks them WHY when she is old enough to understand the neglect she has undergone!
Originally posted by impossible82: But Mia must still be less than 12 months old - how on earth can you know she hasnt been damaged. Personally i think the should check up on these babies again at 5 and again as adults. I can guarentee you that Mia and the other 50's babies on the show will have far far higher levels of stress hormones and are likely to not form attachments easily. How anyone can honestly believe that neglecting a baby can be good for them is beyond me - i think your friends should be very very ashamed of themselves and I hope they can forgive thmeselves when their daughter asks them WHY when she is old enough to understand the neglect she has undergone!
Totally agree, and also they will regret not spending her precious newborn days cuddling her to bits! they are not that small for long! And a mother shouldnt be stressing about a routine in the first 6weeks. they should be spending that time relaxing getting to know their new angel!
