Originally posted by :->: Clare Verity is quite upfront, she's doing it for the parent that wants their previous life back. She's does a job and she's paid for it, it's contractual and to her it would seem that is all there is to it. Claims to harm the baby to her would seem unsubstantiated. And indeed, whilst they go against almost everyone's natural inclinations, it would be hard not only to identify any claimed long term harm, but even more so to establish its cause as that specific treatment.
The fact that it goes against recommendations to prevent cot death should be enough. that was not mentioned anywhere in the programme so any parents to be could take her advice on bpard and put their child at risk
thanks antonia!! But i have waited all my life (i am 34) for the moment when my daughter was born and since that day i have never been so happy -she brings me joy every moment that i am with her -crying or not!!!! She KNOWS that she is loved and i would never put her in a position where that could ever be in doubt! A childs love is true and unconditional -So should ours be!!!!
I don't believe it. She is a celebrity. We have to ban her, I am seriously.
What is this!? You know people might think this behaviour and routine towards your baby is accepted or "right" just because Claire is projected as beeing a "super nanny" and a celebrity. The proof that she is not is here on this site and in every parents instinct.
Let's stop concentrating on Claire Verity. It's negative and her system is clealy opposed. However neither of the other concepts are getting any credit. Surely we should be positive about these and give these credit instead?! Isn't this what Verity wants?
Originally posted by :->: Clare Verity is quite upfront, she's doing it for the parent that wants their previous life back. She's does a job and she's paid for it, it's contractual and to her it would seem that is all there is to it. Claims to harm the baby to her would seem unsubstantiated. And indeed, whilst they go against almost everyone's natural inclinations, it would be hard not only to identify any claimed long term harm, but even more so to establish its cause as that specific treatment.
no it wouldn't there is research out there that proves just that - Bowlby and his attachment theory is one of them - poor attachment to mothers = behavioural problems in children
No that is not what she wants drew! She wants to prove that by the time the baby is eight weeks old it will sleep through the night!! Well i have news for her Much loved,Cuddled,played with and generally happy babies sleep through the night even earlier than that - mine was after three weeks !!! A loved baby is happy and secure - an abandoned,seemingly unloved baby -well how would you feel!!!!!!!
ive joined this forum..ustwatched prog on c4+1..i am horrified. i have a new baby..my secon. that claire woman is dangerous.speaking as a nurse to the health visitor..surely something must be done and how?...how do i tell c4 that for the first time they have really upset me
INDEED CLAIRE is a liability,but can i also say that the other ladys should be given credit for sticking up to the lady! they are proving to be great parents by giving the little babys love and security. WELL DONE.
Originally posted by DrewM: Let's stop concentrating on Claire Verity. It's negative and her system is clealy opposed. However neither of the other concepts are getting any credit. Surely we should be positive about these and give these credit instead?! Isn't this what Verity wants?
Very true. I think a lot of people have been very upset and shaken my this episode and probably needed to get their emotions out. What you say is right. Perhaps we had to see Claire to appriciate the opposite..?
Why would you want your old life back if you have chosen to have a baby? Those people who assume life should go back to the way it was are missing out bigtime! Will they ever allow themselves the joy of seeing their baby smile from ear to ear when they tend to it's needs? Where is the joy of parenting in the 50's method? Yes it is tough, no one said it was easy, but follow your heart!
It would be a great idea to put our concerns etc to C4 and seek some sort of response from that Verity woman? Can anyone suggest the best way to do this as so many of us have been truely upset.
what is this obsession with babies sleeping through the night? - they are not meant to!!!! -with a stomach the size of a walnut they need feeding regularly, breastmilk transits through the gut much more quickly than formula milk, and the more a baby feeds the more milk is produced. Just what do people expect when they have a baby - life is never the same again - and i for one would not want it to be - isaac is the best thing that ever happened to me and i never expect life to be back as before nor would i want it to be.
someone said earlier that that poor mum wont get that time back...its true..my baby is 17 week my goodness i snuggle her loads and still feel i havent appreciated her enough. but im reassured to see that many other people have felt they must also speak out against this utter lunatic
Who is this Clare Verity?? I cannot believe what I have just watched, a newborn baby being packed off outside in the freezing cold!! ?? A woman with no children of her own advising parents about what they should and shouldnt do?? Telling a father he cant cuddle his daughter for the next three hours when he can then have ONLY ten mins?? She clearly has no idea of how important both a mothers and fathers love is. Its ludacrus !! My daughter is now 5 months old and has been sleeping happily from around 8 at night until 7 in the morning since she was 8 weeks old. I have loved and cuddled her whenever she or I wanted. I think the only good thing is that this program will dissuade any new mums from this method. I just feel sorry for the baby and family in question who followed her advise. Hopefully the damage is not irreversible.
Took me a while to creat my login as I was on the phone discussing it with mom. MY son is now 17 months but should have been born 12 weeks later. He could not breast feed until he was 4 1/2 weeks old and then only a little bit once or twice a day, there is no golden hour, the poor woman was thinking about first aid and child abductions.
He still feeds now from me now. He was carried in a sling out of necessity and was warm comfortable and cosy next to me and it was totally convienient as I could do chores and he could sleep, knowing he was where he should be.
My mother proposed that I might be spoiling him but I responded with 'if he has the where with all the be spoiled then he has the knowledge to know he was left in the hospital with out me for 7 and a half weeks (I was with him for a week after that full time in the unit as he suddenly could breast feed for all his feeds).
this is what i have been saying ALL along!HOW could channel 4 aloud mental abuse in front of there eyes.If it was me i would have kicked claire out my house.And do you know what? if it was all about fame! that would of done it.
I am glad to see that I am not the only one disgusted and appalled by the 1950's approach. I am concerned though that such an "experiment" was even allowed. Did an ethics commitee actually approve what amounts to child abuse for entertainment purposes? I suspect channel 4 will say the program raises some important issues and healthy debate but can they honestly say "no children were harmed in the making of this program"? I think not.
The guidelines for prevention of cot death from the dept of health recommends that children should sleep in the same room as their parents for a minimum of 6 months. The "Baby Friendly Guidelines from Unicef and the WHO states that babies should be breast fed on cue. Considerable scientific evidence supports these guidelines. As a midwife I have a professional responsibility to ensure that the advice I give to parents is in accordance with them. Surely someone taking payment from people to advise them on the care of their children should be subject to the same legal requirements.
I was appalled at Claire Verity and think it's a sad reflection on today's society that she has become successful by teaching this abusive method. Whatever happened to our natural instincts? The new mum was upset because her instincts were being supressed by that woman, but I noticed that even Claire tried to comfort the MUM when she cried - why? - because that's what to do when someone's upset Claire, so you just disproved your own theories! I'm so pleased to see how many people disagree with her and would like to know just how qualified she really is for people to actually follow her advice.
After watching 'Bringing Up Baby' on channel 4, it is obvious this woman is nothing more than a bleach blond bully. She appears to pounce on naive and insecure new parents. However, these people that are following her seem as if they are non-parents. As if, by having someone else tell them what to do they are abdicating real responsibility to their newborn. The mothers are nothing more than a glorified wet nurse and the fathers are non-existent since they don't feed or hold the child. Perhaps these people and this woman are a match made in heaven simply because they have found someone who will give them cart blanche when it comes to not changing their lifestyle simply because they now have a child. How sad, they are truly missing out on some of the best times with their new baby. Time that they will never be able to regain. I won't even mention what the has to say about Americans and how dumb we are when it comes to parenting, Que Sera, Sera, guess we know why she is childless.
I just cant believe this woman is making money from being so outragiously cruel to all of the children that have the unfortunate luck of being involved with her, those precious hugs and cuddles mean the world to me and I cant believe this woman is allowed to pass on her advise and take that joy away from new parents??
Originally posted by sazzy75: this is what i have been saying ALL along!HOW could channel 4 aloud mental abuse in front of there eyes.If it was me i would have kicked claire out my house.And do you know what? if it was all about fame! that would of done it.
Maybe some people did kick her out or stepped up and said no. C$ might just not show you those parts
