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I feel so helpless i want to go round to thier house and just take them babies away..They had that vacant look in thier eyes..
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I replied on the other thread too. Do feel free to use any of my comments but please do remember that what was shown last night was far from a true image of what the thousands of young carers up and down the country live like and do. As i said on the other thread do contact the princess royal trust for carers and carers uk to see what real young carers do
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quote: Originally posted by becks323:
I feel so helpless i want to go round to thier house and just take them babies away..They had that vacant look in thier eyes..
That is how i have felt all day adn bein only an half an hour drive away i'm finding it very ard to sit still. The image of thst poor childs bottom will live with me for a long time. The problem we have in this country is that social work seemed to be paid so badly that there is no insentive for the workers but not only that my mum was tellin me about a case last yr where two boys had been neglected and social services knew it was happening and its at that point that you find yourself askin why not?!?! This country is a sham! We pile millions into building new rounabouts or throwin up speed cameras left right and centre and yet the goverment forgets about the things that really need attention cause they don't have, or no of children being abused and neglected so therefore the money goes to other things. I almost feel ashamed about the fact i live in this country when i no on my dorrstep these sorts of things r happening and nothing is done
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I woke up this morning in a very clean bed and had a shower and all this time i just could not get them children out of my head i have rang social services , i have rang nspcc , what more can i do i asked myself because we are not going to know the outcome to this. The social workers will just say it is a private matter and then they will just move the family to another area and they will never be heard of again ..Our social worker system is bad and we cannot do athink about social workers not doing thier jobs properly ..It is only when a child dies that they come under scrutiny then they just dispear to another area and play social worker all over again..
This country needs to be sorted out when it comes down to children..
It was like watching a documentry on an orphanage in a poor country and the we seen last night had the same vacant look on thier faces as a third world child its unforgivable these parents are child abusers in my eyes..
Sorry i am just so flippen angry..
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Hi to all. New to boards. Nice to meet you. I've read all the comments towards the docu. that was shown last night and it's wonderful that we all have a heart and care first and foremost what should matter - the children featured. I am not in any way judgemental, nor do I give a hoots for political correctness, so my comments towards the parents would be the same whether were blind or fully sighted. There are SO SO many issues to be dealt with regarding this family and it's alarming. Whilst watching the docu., I thought of how the best things in life are truly free, and precious, in terms of soap, water, and the beautiful blessing of having a child(ren). Appreciated, those things were not by the parents featured, because without doubt, they just took EVERYTHING for granted. Firstly, their hygiene issues/state of cleanliness was abysmal. They may be blind, but I am sure their sense of smell was working in some way. The beauty of picking up your child and smelling their skin when giving them a hug is the most natural thing in the world, even when you just know they've pooped their nappy, you just always wanna cuddle and snuzzle into your wee bundle of joy no matter what age they are. We are to be honest, children when it comes down to it. Though everything was sad and very upsetting, I can't get the scene of the oldest girl plunging the toilet out of my head, as I thought it would spill over onto an already minging looking carpet, then I thought *Jeez! Is she gonna wash her hands after she finishes doing that, or will she go straight down and eat??* Then near the end, the little baby crawling under the wheelie bin  I swear I almost jumped through the telly to stop it toppling on the wee soul. What about the 9 year old girl, when she sobbed about the 'black bag issue' and cried 'I wish my parents weren't blind' and then saying that they were the best parents ever, even though she'd never had any other ones. I have often witnessed children who come from poor or sad backgrounds, and they love their parents to bits, no matter what, but it would be wonderful for all of these children in the docu. to be given the chance of having a better way of life, so that they can see what they are missing out on. It's just heartbreaking. I am quite sure if the amount of benefits that they are in receipt of are totted up, there could be some funds put aside for them to be dressed nicely, and given trips with their friends to the pictures, girly time etc. instead of being locked in the 'prison' that they are kept in. Even at that, they did not have a clean sanctuary to retreat to. I hope that due to the number of people who have 'voiced' their concerns on here, that we will be all be the 'ray of light' that those children deserve. Perhaps it will even be a wake up call  for the parents. Best wishes to you all out there! M2LW 
"Embrace your imperfections"
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This is the first time I've spoken up about any program, am horrified that in this day and age this sort of thing can happen to children. My 10 year old Son watched the first 15 minutes of this program and was disgusted at what these children were made to do. My question is if the Father can pour a can of beer perfectly and light a fag with no problem why cant he change a nappy? It was a brilliantly made program and hope that something is done to help these poor children sooner rather than later. Somebody should take these people and tie their tubes to stop them having more kids.
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quote: Originally posted by TypoPixey:
I replied on the other thread too. Do feel free to use any of my comments but please do remember that what was shown last night was far from a true image of what the thousands of young carers up and down the country live like and do. As i said on the other thread do contact the princess royal trust for carers and carers uk to see what real young carers do
Hi thanks for your reply, my original message was removed because I (ignorantly) broke rules by including my email - a bit embarassing on my first post! I have been volunteering at a young carers project, and have been privileged enough to spend some time listening to these young people. I will be using their own words to describe their experience. Hopefully some use will come from the work. I am reluctant to comment on the programe - it was only an hour of footage, and there was no mention of the interventions the family have recieved, so I don't really know what was going on. It certainly has drawn up a lot of emotions! I am sure the nspcc will follow up your concerns. I know many of you really want to do something to help - if it's any use, here are some practical things: I was able to have a lovely day out with a young carers group - I could go on for hours about how much it meant to them! It was made possible by the kind donations of a local club, who had chosen to fundraise for us. The most precious thing you can give is time - Try your local volunteer beaurau (sorry can never spell that word!  ), you really can make a difference - I have had amazing experiences volunteering as a mentor to vulnerable young people, helping young offenders pay back to the community, supporting the children and families of people in prison, and of course young carers. |
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Disgusting ! whole programme reduced me to tears those poor children!
Hope social services do something and the papers get on to it like they do all important issues!
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quote: Originally posted by lc132:
Hi thanks for your reply, my original message was removed because I (ignorantly) broke rules by including my email - a bit embarassing on my first post! I have been volunteering at a young carers project, and have been privileged enough to spend some time listening to these young people. I will be using their own words to describe their experience. Hopefully some use will come from the work. I am reluctant to comment on the programe - it was only an hour of footage, and there was no mention of the interventions the family have recieved, so I don't really know what was going on. It certainly has drawn up a lot of emotions! I am sure the nspcc will follow up your concerns. I know many of you really want to do something to help - if it's any use, here are some practical things: I was able to have a lovely day out with a young carers group - I could go on for hours about how much it meant to them! It was made possible by the kind donations of a local club, who had chosen to fundraise for us. The most precious thing you can give is time - Try your local volunteer beaurau (sorry can never spell that word! ), you really can make a difference - I have had amazing experiences volunteering as a mentor to vulnerable young people, helping young offenders pay back to the community, supporting the children and families of people in prison, and of course young carers.[/QUOTE] As i said in my posts the programme really isn't a true picture of Young Carers at all. My daughter got a lot of help from the PRTC young carers project she belonged to She made friends who could understand how it is to have disabled siblings and in turn she enjoyed helping the younger ones and listening to the issues they had. The PRTC and CarersUK do a heck of a lot for young carers and i do fear that last nights programme will set back the good work they have done in trying to raise awareness. Those poor kids were being treated like slaves. There are many disabled parents out there who give their children a loving, caring home even though their children do often have to help them out. There is a difference between helping out and being made to do absolutely everything |
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The whole programme just turned my stomach and reduced me to tears. I haven't been able to think of anything else all day. My husband wanted to turn the Tv over but I was compelled to watch as I hoped the programme would end with a positive outcome. I have a 6 month old and 5 year old son and I cannot get out of my mind the scene of the bread thrown on the floor to the baby, the stiffling hot filthy bedroom with no curtains and the nappies not being changed until the girls came home from school. The mother obviously has learning difficulties and is using her blindness as an excuse to be lazy. She managed to walk pretty fast down the road unaided (as did father)so why couldn't she care for her children. The younger children had that awful sad neglected look in their eyes which remined me of children seen on TV in Romanian orphanages. The two girls I'm sure will be affected in adulthood (and the spiral goes on).The system has let these children down and social services in the area need questioning on how they can let children live like this. The one good thing that will come out of this programme is that some action will now be taken so that the children are properly cared for. I am going to phone the NSPCC as recommended tomorrow.
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quote: Originally posted by mum2lilwonder: Hi to all. New to boards. Nice to meet you. I've read all the comments towards the docu. that was shown last night and it's wonderful that we all have a heart and care first and foremost what should matter - the children featured. I am not in any way judgemental, nor do I give a hoots for political correctness, so my comments towards the parents would be the same whether were blind or fully sighted. There are SO SO many issues to be dealt with regarding this family and it's alarming. Whilst watching the docu., I thought of how the best things in life are truly free, and precious, in terms of soap, water, and the beautiful blessing of having a child(ren). Appreciated, those things were not by the parents featured, because without doubt, they just took EVERYTHING for granted. Firstly, their hygiene issues/state of cleanliness was abysmal. They may be blind, but I am sure their sense of smell was working in some way. The beauty of picking up your child and smelling their skin when giving them a hug is the most natural thing in the world, even when you just know they've pooped their nappy, you just always wanna cuddle and snuzzle into your wee bundle of joy no matter what age they are. We are to be honest, children when it comes down to it. Though everything was sad and very upsetting, I can't get the scene of the oldest girl plunging the toilet out of my head, as I thought it would spill over onto an already minging looking carpet, then I thought *Jeez! Is she gonna wash her hands after she finishes doing that, or will she go straight down and eat??* Then near the end, the little baby crawling under the wheelie bin I swear I almost jumped through the telly to stop it toppling on the wee soul. What about the 9 year old girl, when she sobbed about the 'black bag issue' and cried 'I wish my parents weren't blind' and then saying that they were the best parents ever, even though she'd never had any other ones. I have often witnessed children who come from poor or sad backgrounds, and they love their parents to bits, no matter what, but it would be wonderful for all of these children in the docu. to be given the chance of having a better way of life, so that they can see what they are missing out on. It's just heartbreaking. I am quite sure if the amount of benefits that they are in receipt of are totted up, there could be some funds put aside for them to be dressed nicely, and given trips with their friends to the pictures, girly time etc. instead of being locked in the 'prison' that they are kept in. Even at that, they did not have a clean sanctuary to retreat to. I hope that due to the number of people who have 'voiced' their concerns on here, that we will be all be the 'ray of light' that those children deserve. Perhaps it will even be a wake up call for the parents. Best wishes to you all out there! M2LW
Although I do agree with most of what you say those kids deserve better. however, MONEY is not the answer. These people are 'not all there' they could be millionaires and still live in squalor they must be on a fortune with the amount of children they have and their blindness benefits I have worked out that they would be entitled to at least £600 a week of tax payers money without their rent and council tax etc. Where is the money going? certainly not on what it is given to them for! |
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quote: Originally posted by mrs_o:
I didn't see this programme, and didn't even know about it, but what you all have posted on here tells me it was horrific, and has upset so many of you.
In a way, I wish I had seen it, because I'd then be in a position to comment properly.. but to all of you that are distressed, my thoughts are with you, and to those that have done something about this terrible situation, you have done the right thing, and you will have made a difference to those poor kids.
For anyone who missed it, this show is repeated on channel 4 late thurs night/early fri morning at 03.20am. I tried to look for it on 4 on demand but it wasn't listed. I hope the media does cover this story as i too agree if they can cause such an uproar about something like CBB, something should be said about these poor children. |
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Can i please just let you all be aware that on the other chatroom called digiroom there is a message claiming to be from the eldest daughter louise adn she is naturally unhappy at what has been written. Just wanted you all to be aware of this
Love Julie x x
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Hi julieandholly thanks for the tip off about Louise I have tried to look for the forum digiroom but cant find it along with all the other forums I was on last night and this morning do you have any links to help me find them? I would be very suprised if it was louise but if it is what can i say, everyone who saw the doc is enraged and desperatley sorry for them it's only natural they would want to voice their concerns I just hope it does some good and maybe one day, when she is living a full and happy life she will see that we all meant well.
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I was some what suspicious about the whole thig but somebody has posted a message sayin she has spoken with louise's father on the phone 4 half an hour and the family feel they have been totally misrepresented. This lady who posted the message has been on there lots today so feel that is proof enough.
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quote: Originally posted by julieandholly:
I was some what suspicious about the whole thig but somebody has posted a message sayin she has spoken with louise's father on the phone 4 half an hour and the family feel they have been totally misrepresented.
This lady who posted the message has been on there lots today so feel that is proof enough.
Thanks for the link. There is no way that is her a computer in the house? i don't think so and did you check out he email address louise scorpion/ With a sting in the tail. If by some chance louise did manage to read any of the comments made by the veiwers i just hope that one day when she is living a full and happy life she will see that we all only wanted to help her family and the thousands of others like her. |
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I have never written in a chat room before but I am appalled and deeply saddened.
I too went to bed and cried for those poor children last night. My parents wanted me to turn over but I just couldn't ignore what I was seeing! I am so glad that so many of you have responded to this very serious situation. It gives me hope! I have just had a baby of my own and seeing those neglected children lying and crawling in filth broke my heart. I cannot get the image of the baby sat slumped on the sofa where he had fallen asleep out of my mind or many other disturbing images that I witnessed last night. Those young children are in grave danger and deserve basic love and care as do all children which they are clearly not receiving. I know that children should be with their parents whenever possible but if they cannot even change their child's nappy or keep them clean they should be fostered until they are of an age where they can at least tend to their own basic needs. Those poor girls have been put upon and do not have the parenting skills that those babies need as they have not been shown these themselves and are too young! This was evident when you saw the younger sister trying to change her brother's nappy on a dirty carpet. The parents' disability is not the problem here - who changed the older girls nappies and cared for them? It is the parents' attitude. They are bribing their girls that if they do not help they will no longer be able to be in Young Carers -probably the only fun thing they have to look forward to. They obviously choose to ignore all help and advice and must now face the consequences. As other members have said there are so many childless people who would dearly love to take in those children and really love and care for them. I work in a school and I know that social services would have been contacted here and now they must act. I will not rest until I know something has been done about this. Channel 4 has succeeded in shocking us.. and now has an obligation to follow this up and voice our concerns to the appropriate people! This is far more important than BB - so let's get a nationwide response please!
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I watched this programme with my Daughter who has a young child herself . We were appalled by the attitude and behaviour of the Parents. Cant change the babys nappies/feed the babies but are able to perfectly pour a pint of Lager into a glass without spilling a drop. Smoke to their hearts content but not able to open a packet of food for the kids and feed them whilst those poor girls are at School. Where are Social Servives in this case. Back Seat no doubt, until something happens. The parents should be ashamed of themelves. The attitude we want lots of kids so they can look after us in later life. Who are they kidding. Im sure when the kids are old enough they will realise that the have been abused and hopefully leave home and let their parents cope on their own. How selfish those parents are, are these kids not entitled to enjoy childhood obviously not in this case they are only born to live a life of slavery. The parents should not be able to have any more children its about time Social Services stepped in and helped those poor kids.
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I watched this programme with my Daughter who has a young child herself . We were appalled by the attitude and behaviour of the Parents. Cant change the babys nappies/feed the babies but are able to perfectly pour a pint of Lager into a glass without spilling a drop. Smoke to their hearts content bu
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Anger has, in my opinion rightly, been voiced about the blind couple's family, but I feel that the other case, that of a young boy living with, and looking after his mother, is nothing to feel happy about. The fact that a young lad has to return from school and act as unpaid labour in the guise of nurse, cook, cleaner (to say nothing of having to cope with unnecessary piles of ironing)in this day and age is outrageous. The government squanders untold millions both here and abroad and yet appears content to let this form of child-abuse continue under its own nose.
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quote: Originally posted by toonbigbrochick: quote: Originally posted by mrs_o:
I didn't see this programme, and didn't even know about it, but what you all have posted on here tells me it was horrific, and has upset so many of you.
In a way, I wish I had seen it, because I'd then be in a position to comment properly.. but to all of you that are distressed, my thoughts are with you, and to those that have done something about this terrible situation, you have done the right thing, and you will have made a difference to those poor kids.
For anyone who missed it, this show is repeated on channel 4 late thurs night/early fri morning at 03.20am. I tried to look for it on 4 on demand but it wasn't listed. I hope the media does cover this story as i too agree if they can cause such an uproar about something like CBB, something should be said about these poor children.
Thanks very much for that, Chick, I'll look out for it... just something I have to witness for myself...  |
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