Hi, yes i totally agree with everything you have stated, and yes they were breeding with no concern for the other children. Discusting!!

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Originally posted by rosiejo:
I have just watched 12 and looking after the family and was disgusted that this is allowed to happen. The programme brought me to tears to see the conditions under which those children were living. As far as I could see the parents were just breeding like rabbits to provide themselves with servents so they didn't have to get off their arses and do anything!! I am sure there are thousands of blind and partially sighted people out there who take responsibility for their own lives and raise families who would be disgusted at this programme content and the way this particular couple behave. I really hope for those children that social services get involved and sort this out. How did you feel at this programme?

After watching only the second half of this program I found myself so distressed I couldn`t settle until I felt I`d done something to help these desperate children. The neglect these children are suffering is nothing short of abuse. I decided to e mail Channel 4 to complain that this program had been made without any obvious follow up help for the children. I have also contemplated contacting Social Services but as I missed any names or area where this family live I feel I have inadequate information. I can only hope that someone dealing with this family has had the opportunity to see the program and be a "fly on the wall" as we have been. These children need love, CARE and nurturing by someone who can give them their best not just leave them to their own devises.
I wish I could help these children more!

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Originally posted by spacamac:
Has anyone just watched the programme on channel four - 12 and looking after the family? I have and so has my friend and we cant believe that this is allowed to happen. What those children are going through is appauling and discraceful. Is has reduced my friend to tears and myself to complete silence and shock. What does everyone else think?

The people you need tospeak to are Banbury Social Services.....

This programme has haunted me since I watched it. I found the cold detachment of the eldest child particularly chilling and even now things are coming to me.

The Father is too blind to change the babies nappies but not so blind that he can drive around on an invalid bike as he did going to the grave of the child they lost.

I was beside myself with fury at the potrayal of blind people. I am a Nursey Nurse and one of the mothers of a child I cared for in one of my nursery classes was blind, she needed a dog to get around yet this did not stop her child from being beautifully dressed at all times, she had a little support from Social Services but she still managed to do her housework while her [also] partialy sighted husband went to work and her child went to school.

I keep getting flashbacks of the blind mother stepping over the child as it lay on the floor, the baby chewing on the beer can out of the bin, and as for that FILTHY Babygro on that child, I too could have wept. I know it probably isn't a very pc opinion but I believe people should not have more children then they can care for nor afford.

And by the way. Did anyone notice the second woman with the son for a slave? She can manage delicate needle work but god forbid she would have to iron anything. I got the impression the tears she shed were definatly for herself.

Did anyone see the top story on the ITN News tonight about the little girl with cerebal palsy who has been horribly abused by two monsters who call themselves her parents? I hope they have to spend the rest of their lives in extreme misery in solitary confinement in whatever prison they end up going to.

It seems nothing has been learned from the Victoria Climbe case and as usual they trot out the Head of Social Services who comes out with the usual excuses for them not doing their job. What it comes down to is this. Some people treat their children as possesions, objects to use and abuse as they please. In the case of the couple in the documentary, if they had those children specificaly to care for them in their old age. I feel they may be dissapointed as they seem to be setting themselves up for rejection and resentment when the poor unfortunate little souls grow up.

Hi, I watched this program with utter disbelief. Here are two clearly selfish and low IQ people who seem to think that using their two young children as servants so as not to deal with the daily tasks that come with having children.
The sad thing this is NOT unusual. I had a friend who had a less than mature mother. She ran the hours, brought in a income to feed the kids because the benefits were spent on booze and drugs. She now has three of her own children and the cycle starts again.
You can see the effect that the situation is having on the older child; she has no emotions at all. Where are social services when a 8 year old tries to kill herself? The question arises, whose rights are being protected in this case? Not the children. These parents have a made a choice but do not take the consequences that these choices bring, it's their children, all of them. They should not have a choice in what help they get. The question is, are they fit to be parents? I would say no. I'm not sure if it is due to low IQ or intentional sloth. Either way, Society needs to take part in the bringing up of children. Otherwise we will see the effects in 10 - 15 years. Look at what is happening at the moment. The case of the three year old girl today shows that we still seem to put cost, convenience and the loudest person before the needs of the weakest.

One other thought, it’s interesting to note that programs like that and Jaime’s School dinners do more for the nation in awareness and progress than a top heavy, resource intensive civil service. Rant over!

Just one more post at the moment. I have sent an email to the SS department requesting their policies under the freedom of information act as well as voicing my concern. I'm wondering what the response it going to be. I shall let you know. Hs any one else contacted then?

Managed to tape the repeat of this and have only watched the first ten minutes and I already feel sick. (I don't want my daughter watching it)

I'll give you my full verdict when I've watched the whole thing, but I am disgusted already.

I just hope that all the action that folk on here have taken is hitting home - good on all of you.

What is getting me is the sympathetic attitude of the person doing the voice-over. WHY was something not done while this was being filmed? Or filming stopped and action taken?

And as for that poor dear child that missrinkypink has posted about.. I feel physically sick that any 'person' could treat any child in the horrific way she was treated.

I'm at a loss to know what this world is coming to, sometimes, I really am.

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Originally posted by missrinkypink:
Did anyone see the top story on the ITN News tonight about the little girl with cerebal palsy who has been horribly abused by two monsters who call themselves her parents? I hope they have to spend the rest of their lives in extreme misery in solitary confinement in whatever prison they end up going to.

It seems nothing has been learned from the Victoria Climbe case and as usual they trot out the Head of Social Services who comes out with the usual excuses for them not doing their job. What it comes down to is this. Some people treat their children as possesions, objects to use and abuse as they please. In the case of the couple in the documentary, if they had those children specificaly to care for them in their old age. I feel they may be dissapointed as they seem to be setting themselves up for rejection and resentment when the poor unfortunate little souls grow up.

I saw that last night and couldn't believe that these people where given the security of prison!
They should be left to rot. What they did to that poor innocent child was evil. There isn't a word that is disgustin enough to describe that kind of abuse

I too watched this programme and was shocked to say the least!

I have a 24 year old friend who is completely blind - she lost her sight at the age of five through having a brain tumour. I told her about this programme and she was very upset & angry that this sort of thing was able to be broadcast as she felt it a generalisation that all blind parents are like that. They are not of course

I, as likewise everyone else was horrified by what I saw in this documentary but applaud Channel Four in bringing it to everyone's attention. Maybe some feel that they should be held responsible for not doing something about the situation rather than just showing it, but then how else could they highlight the situation that many other young children face in this country every day of there lives?? So now we all put the blame on social workers in not being seen to be doing anything to sort this crazy situation out. I am sure that they have been trying there best for a long time. What we don't realise is that they have there hands tied by numerous govermental 'legalities' and 'human rights' issues that stop them doing what they really want to do in getting the kids out of these awful situations. If it was only that easy that a social worker could just go along and say these kids need to be taken into care and then force the couple not to have any further kids. They have to deal with numerous cases like this with not enough staff or 'man hours' to do it to the full due to the 'overspend' in the NHS budget and hence now cutbacks in staffing levels. It is easy for us all 'judge and blame' but we all need to look deeper into the situation and not just put the blame on them. I say this in that I work for the NHS as a nurse and due to staff cutbacks and all the 'wonderful'govermental patients rights charters I well know that it means that those in most need of help and protection can't get it due to 'human rights' and before anyone says you should fight for it, all I will say that all NHS staff, including social workers spend every day fighting against it and just do there best. If everyone here is that angry about this documentary just remember that this is the case not just for thousands of children in this country but also the elderly as well in that they also suffer abuse at the hands of there family albeit a different way. All NHS workers are tied by lack of staff, working to 'targets' and 'patients rights'. If you want this to stop tell the government that more staff are needed to cope with it and moreso that they need to be given the indenpendent power to be able to act on given situations.

I'm 16 and truly disgusted with the parents, being blind and having your children bearing the burden to the point the a 8 year old attempted suicide is just shocking. What worried me is her 12 year old sister didn't seem to have any emotion of care for what nearly happened to her sister.

I was disturbed to see that the toddler and baby's bedroom was capped tight with no air flowing through, there are 3 young children in there especially a baby, anything can happen with no proper air flow, giving a 9 month old baby chips for dinner is un-healthy the baby of that age shouldn't be eating such stuff.

The floors are absolutely filthy, and the shocking thing is the toddlers and baby Nigel were eating from the ground.

I was also shocked about the ignorance of the Parents attitude towards smoking while pregnant, don't they know that smoking risks your child having a serious illness due to the mutation of the chromosome, they were so ignorant their eldest doing the work whlist they sit there having a fag and a lager.

All I can say is there needs to be serious intervention to make sure they are not mentally wearing out the girls, I believe they are losing their childhood due to heavy burdens of responsibility.

The irony of it all is they believe that having more children will take the burden off one child but what about the next child, the only positive thing I have is the girls have worked so hard I'm impressed with their maturity but still something needs to be done.


With the other story Ryan and Jill, I was impressed with but at the same time causing stress, at least the home looked tidy and sanitary, but at the same time Social Services are practically doing NOWT!

I'm am so angry still, I had to vent it!