I just wondered ... is Kate Betts, a lecturer from the University Of Chichester, in any way related to the Kate Betts who seems to be an Administrative Officer in the UOC English Department (Google)?

Just to let paranioa run wild... I was wondering if KB might be MissCathcart? I noticed her drop by a couple of times here...

Miss cathcart made a big play of living the good life in France and being rather wealthy - Doesn't really fit KB methinks

Playfull,

That's exactley why I slipped into paranoia mode... Being in France would have been a cool cover for being at the writing workshop TPTT ran for the final 10...

I'VE GOT TO STOP THIS - THE SKY'S TURNING RED!!!!

Is this not all rather academic at this stage?

Look, just because you’re paranoid doesn’t necessarily mean that people AREN’T talking about you!

Did you mean that LML?

If so, it's got to be one of the most subtle things that have been said on this forum, ever!

I'm sleepy, it must be muffling my straightforwardness...

Poor Jay, it's all got to him I think.

Good spot Adman

But no, I'm not the cunning linguist that statement appears to indicate, it was completely by accident, but I will totally be taking the credit now please.

Kate Betts=Miss Cathcart?

Miss Cathcart, I know, is Scottish; is KB, Scottish?

So ... nobody cares that the programme said she was a Uni lecturer and it appears that she's actually an admin clerk then?!

I'd have thought somone would have had a comment on it!

If that is true, it's a real shame. However, previously many people of "reality" shows lie about their backgrounds and it is presented in the media as a fact.

I thought it was odd she had 2 O' Levels then became a professor? I'm sure it's possible but is rather unusual.

I don't care what she does for a living - but if this is the same Kate Betts (and it must be - what did the University Of Chichester do, buy a job lot to get discount?) all I want to know is who lied, and why?

Because a University Lecturer has more credibility for a controversial play than a clerk would?

Actually i lied as on by bio as well, i said i was 6' tall when in fact i am slightly over.


Adman i don't care if KB lied or not as it doesn't affect her abillity to write.

In fact i would probably find someone who blagged thier way through more interesting as a person.

If, if she is an admin officer then certainly they should not have hidden that fact.

If it is the case then the producers have obviously been thinking about "storylines" in this "reality" show too. Methinks they might have rebranded her as a professor to make her sound more intellectual. It's as simple as that. They got their supermarket worker as their "underachiever comes good" story, and an admin officer is not that damn sexy as professor. In literary circles anyway!

But I'm just a cynic.

Sorry I read that KB was a professor in an article, but the thread states she is a (apparently) lecturer.

I'm not too sure what she is.

From " The Radio Times" for Monday 19/06/06

" 10.00 The Play's the Thing 3/4
The search for a budding playwright continues.
The field has narrowed down to three first-time writers- Kate, a lecturer, Steve, a supermarket worker and Iain, advertising copywriter..."

Please, don't anybody misunderstand my take on this, or think that I'm having a pop out of jealousy; I'm not. It just seems to me that Kate Betts (Chichester Uni lecturer, winner of TPTT) must be Kate Betts (Chichester Uni admin clerk, Google). Anybody want to call her to ask?

Now ... as I said, I don't care what the winner of TPTT does/did for a living; I'd love to have had a beer with most of the shortlisters, because they all looked like interesting characters. But I DO care about the truth (yeah, I know, bring on the advertising gags).

I'm not suggesting this about Kate Betts for one second; but if a writer 'bends' their credentials, maybe they forge other things; like, maybe they didn't write the synopsis or 15pp they submit? Or maybe they have had professional productions before?

I'm not suggesting this about TPTT TVS for one second; but if a tv programme 'bends' an entrants credentials, maybe they falsify other things; like, how much 'help' the writer gets behind-the-scenes? Or maybe they were not fairly selected in the first place?

If for no other reason than my curiosity, if I'm right about the spin, I'd like to know where/how/why/by whose hand it happened. And I, like every other writer on this site, have invested in TPTT; with my time and costs.

Aren't you all just a teensy bit curious?

Believe it or not, part of my job - normally - is to regularly disbelieve what a client tells me and work out the truth for myself. And I'm told some whoppers by clients, believe me (where's my shortlister colleague Iain Weatherby, copywriter, to back me up)!

Is it really so terrible for me to ask where/how/why/by whose hand this inconsistency of broadcast and reality occurred? If everything is above board, there will be a simple, innocent answer - won't there?

Hmmm, as a rule, to lecture on a course a person must have a degree level equivalent (ie a Bachelors to lecture for a Bachelors course) but we've had lectures from other people - like computer technicians on how to not ruin the computer labs...

One of our lecturers teaches on a Masters course without having a Masters degree himself, which strictly speaking isn't allowed, so rules do get bent.

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One of our lecturers teaches on a Masters course without having a Masters degree himself, which strictly speaking isn't allowed, so rules do get bent.

Kate Betts lecturing with 2 'O' levels LML?

Suddenly, Chichester has dropped off my 16 year old daughters' selection list!

Ms Betts can be contacted at work on 'oh one two four three eight one six one eight six'. Anyone confident enough that it's immaterial to ask?

(If TheAdMan disappears now, you'll know that something was not as it should be!)

Haha the Channel 4 team will be round your house in an unmarked van tonight...

Nope - no vans, and I'm still here.

Any comment, PT?

Finding a university is a long and painful process. I have to find one to do my Masters at now. Eeek.