Memory, Playfull? No a simple application of the old cut and paste!! lol

Thanks Jay,

So Swans of any Nationality will not only be accepted but actually encouraged!

I thought all swans belonged to the Queen anyway and must therefore all be UK citizens?

Cobs to the Queen eh?

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Originally posted by Ginpitwarrior:
I thought all swans belonged to the Queen anyway and must therefore all be UK citizens?

Do you ever wonder if she wakes up on some Sundays and calls Geeves over:

"You know what I fancy Geeves? A nice leg of roast Swan for lunch"

?

First of all, Minxy, peace, sister, thank you for the very gracious apology. You're kind.

Second, Jay, I'm fairly certain that terms and conditions like this cannot treat residents and citizens differently in contexts such as competitions. I'm also very certain that when an "and/or" can go either way, it must be construed against the draftor, i.e., in my favour. Also, if I put my cowboy commercial contract negotiator hat on, there are problems with those t&cs, they have some internal contradictions. For instance, the site advertises that the writer retains the rights to the work, but the t&cs have the writer sell the rights completely. But the biggest problem with the t&cs is at the end of clause 7:

The Entrant will at the Producers' request execute and sign all documents and do all acts and things necessary to secure all the rights granted hereunder.

Agreements to enter into another agreement are not binding under UK law. And this sentence stands as an admission that the rights are not secured under the t& cs as they stand.

Like I said, I'm not scared of T&Cs. And plenty of reasonable people can disagree on their application.

But the legalities don't much matter, do they, because I have known from the beginning that there was no American getting on TTPT. You guys hate us now. When I was a student here, you loved us. When my father (American) married my mother (Welsh) in Brecon, you hated "Yanks". When I married my husband (Welsh), Yanks were sort of OK coming off the Clinton admin but now, as Minxy says, bashing us is all the rage.

You know, I think the vast majority of anti-American sentiment is well-deserved. I chose not to live in Washington DC during the robber-baron years of the Bush Admin. I worked for Clinton. A lot of things in my country suck.
Racism and prejudice, for example.

But I think that people in the UK are blind to the extent that they write off Americans for being American without considering the ideas they have on the merits. It's frustrating living here for that reason. But I continue to self-identify as an American and I think the experience of living here has made me more sensitive to my own prejudices and more enlightened as to the human condition.

And I'm not leaving. I'm sticking around just to piss you off.

He he he,

Swann

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Originally posted by MsMinxy:

quote:

Originally posted by Ginpitwarrior:
I thought all swans belonged to the Queen anyway and must therefore all be UK citizens?

Do you ever wonder if she wakes up on some Sundays and calls Geeves over:

"You know what I fancy Geeves? A nice leg of roast Swan for lunch"

?

When I was studying at Oxford I had it on good authority that the dons from Christ Church would order swan like that. Bad dons! Bad! No wonder swans were so touchy out on the river.

Interesting that you should mention that Swann; I'm of the belief that all T&C's are to be taken on a buyer beware basis... Legal intricacies are a pain in the Bells... and mostly come down to jurisprudence anyway.

I don't blame TPTT organisers for setting them down - it'd be silly not too - but I think they do it fully conscious of the above.

I think they would have to let me enter because I am a qualifying person under the Copyright Designs and Patents Act of 1988:

Section 154: Qualification by reference to author.

154.-(1) A work qualifies for copyright protection if the author was at the material time a qualifying person, that is-

(a) a British citizen, a British Dependent Territories citizen, a British National (Overseas), a British Overseas citizen, a British subject or a British protected person within the meaning of the British Nationality Act 1981, or

(b) an individual domiciled or resident in the United Kingdom or another country to which the relevant provisions of this Part extend, or

(c) a body incorporated under the law of a part of the United Kingdom or of another country to which the relevant provisions of this Part extend.

Damn, I have to get busier at work. Did I just find the Copyright Designs Act on the net and paste it into a forum? What a geek I am, dude.

Anyway - Right on Minxy - there is uncertainty in every legal document and I really hope that the finalists do not let Channel Four railroad them into agreeing to give up all the back end rights. I wrote the t&cs for the internet company I work for and there are legitimate things to put in them, but this one is so over the top, it's a little laughable. More of a scare the punters with legal mumbo jumbo.

Is it just at my end, or has the homepage to TPTT fallen over?

Oooooh... something BIG is happening Jays... can you feel it!?

Minxy is up and running fanning the flames of hysteria. This time all I am going to say is you go, girl. I think I gave you the chill out lecture yesterday forgetting that not everyone has bipolar disorder. When you are disabled by the intensity of your emotions, you get nervous when people want to fan the flames, but not everyone is plagued/blessed with that intensity. SO now I say - right on, dude.

And, Jay, the homepage was fine for me.

Nope - Still can't load it... Are you sure that your homepage isn't coming off your cashe Swann?

LOL…

I’ve always been the same Swann… team sports everything… I’d be fully vested and then when/if we’d lose I’d be thunderously dejected for ten minutes; but by the time I’d finished sucking on my orange wedges, I’d be re-living the glory moments and looking forward to whatever was happening tomorrow…

I’m not sure if that’s classed as optimism, or just dumb insensitivity… but it’s followed through my whole life… I miss the bus… I run after it shouting, questioning the drivers parentage… then I trot off to get the next one, quite happy that I got it off my chest...

And when I’ve had stuff rejected – I’ve sworn a bit, assured myself that it was because the readers were all a load of pop-sucking, intellectual-bandit rejects from People’s Friend magazine, kicked it around the room some and then had a cup of tea…

I do enjoy it… and I think ‘losing’ is part of the human condition, I’m very against this thing they have with kids now where they pretend there’s no first place in the egg and spoon race… but then make them take exams from the age of 5!? I’ve read that it’s healthy for you to lose when you’re very young, because you don’t get stressed about it so much later in life… perhaps I just lost a lot then(!)

Anyway - you seem to have gained all ready from the comp Swann… (And best of luck with that btw). We probably all have on some levels – new partnerships for Jays and Adman… and for me, I know I wouldn’t have tried a different genre, had I not had an excuse, so there – I’ve stretched myself… I’m winning already!

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Originally posted by JaysPlays:
Nope - Still can't load it... Are you sure that your homepage isn't coming off your cashe Swann?

Erm, no, I'm not sure. Especially since I'm not sure what a cashe is. . .

[QUOTE]Originally posted by MsMinxy:
LOL…

I’m very against this thing they have with kids now where they pretend there’s no first place in the egg and spoon race… but then make them take exams from the age of 5!? I’ve read that it’s healthy for you to lose when you’re very young, because you don’t get stressed about it so much later in life… perhaps I just lost a lot then(!)

Man, me too! I think it is an important reality check for kids to see how their abilities compare to the abilities of their peers. How else are you gonna know where your talent lies? And you are absolutely right. The lesson that you are not the best at everything, the lesson of being a gracious loser is so important!

The problem today is that everyone tells their little kids that they are "The best", the "smartest", the "most perfect" and consequently, kids think that the HAVE to be those things. With that kind of pressure, they freak out when they lose the egg and spoon race and then worried parents (who caused the problem in the first place) badger schools into not having 'winners'.

I work very hard to be specific when I praise my toddler - "I really appreciate you picking up your toys". "You went all the way up the steps before I did" and not shorthand with "you're the best, dude" all the time because I want him to have a realistic understanding of himself in relation to the world. I think too much pep talk backfires.

Your parenting skills amateur,

Swann

And it's back!

Just double checked those T&Cs... And it would appear that the copyright TPTT is after is that for the filming - you can't apply for repeat fees... The 'submission' remains yours, but you agree to a licence to let them show what they want of the play...

Hmmm... How d'ya know they didn't read these pages before and slyly change it huh? Huh!?

If they had - my paranoia insists that they would have included a rule that excludes playwrights with first names starting with a letter between I and K.

Oh great! My paranoia is now in overdrive... We go and say that, and now the homepage has fallen over again!

They're changing it... They're going to insert the new rule!!

All this angst about who is entitled to enter the comp, How overpoweringly Anglo Saxon. Fortunately we Welsh do not suffer such hang ups, to us you are all bloody migrants

Caicos, dude, do you put your bio in every time you post? Where are you from in Wales?

Caicos - I daren't say what the English think of the Welsh

Swann, I don't put my bio in, it just appears and I have no idea as to how to rub it out, and at this late stage of the proceedings have no interest in finding out how to, Besides which I am computer illiterate and damned poud to be so. I am from South Wales, the Vale of glamorgan
Moonbird my old son, I discoverd very early in life what the English think of we Welsh, I then sacarpered back across the bridge and it was a full 8 years before I dared to leave the comforting arms of Llanilltud Fawr again

Just a minute matey - you aren't the only gay in the villuge are you