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Originally posted by Curls:

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Originally posted by The infamous LA:
Now you are being funny hun, I never claim importance,I am above & beyond that. Do I look like I got a Napoleon complex to seek importance? Come on now

You'd have to be important to me on some level for me to be hostile towards you.
Very few people in this life have that privaledge and i can count all of them on one hand.

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Originally posted by Curls:
i'm actually confused...

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Originally posted by Curls:
He did say so officially that he doesn't recognise himself as an Emcee anymore.
It's on his myspace.
In his Open letter to Oprah

Which of course you say you've read

Yes indeed, the god have peep it as I mentioned earlier. But I did say whenever he is interviewed in respected Hip-Hop mags, the brother always stress he is still an MC while saying something else to his new fans. Oh, his style of poetry came from a hip-hop style of delivery. Most Black poets have developed their own unique style of delivery from a Hip-hop background. People like shykil , ursula and others have always drops their poetic styles on various hip-hop LP's and the Black spoken words genre goes back decades now.

I don't think you understand where i'm coming from at all.

I do hun, its you who trying to prove something. I merely just state the facts!

False claims i'm actually confused. You're trying to promote "black" musical awareness yet you're refusing to attribute more genres than simply RnB, Hip-Hop and Soul to black people.
That totally contradicts everything you've said

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Originally posted by Curls:

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Originally posted by The infamous LA:
Now you are being funny hun, I never claim importance,I am above & beyond that. Do I look like I got a Napoleon complex to seek importance? Come on now

You'd have to be important to me on some level for me to be hostile towards you.
Very few people in this life have that privaledge and i can count all of them on one hand.

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Originally posted by The infamous LA:
Yes indeed, the god have peep it as I mentioned earlier. But I did say whenever he is interviewed in respected Hip-Hop mags, the brother always stress he is still an MC while saying something else to his new fans. Oh, his style of poetry came from a hip-hop style of delivery. Most Black poets have developed their own unique style of delivery from a Hip-hop background. People like shykil , ursula and others have always drops their poetic styles on various hip-hop LP's and the Black spoken words genre goes back decades now.

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I do hun, its you who trying to prove something. I merely just state the facts!

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Actually hun, one is not contradicting myself one bit. When I say Black music, I don't just mean R'n'b/Hip-Hop, I mean all forms of music invented and started by Black artists. I mean, more musical styles are still being invented by Jah kids. Even in the UK, Black British/English people have invented various musical styles over the years (although we never get credit for it.....until our American brothers/sisters start taking up the franchise).

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Now, what was your take on Natalie Cole's ''I'm not happy that Amy Winehouse won those grammies

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Originally posted by Curls:


New fan?

I've been a fan since before his first Debut album tour (when he supported Nine inch nails) the thank you very much. My friend was his sound engineer and introduced me to his music.....


You are familiar with speaking in general terms, aren't you? I wasn't refering too you, I was merely speaking about the new heads drawn to SW, now that he is doing his thing over 300miles an hour beats

Again, facts about what? You've been contesting me about my refusal to have only a couple of genres attributed to African music.
For reasons i really don't know since my stance on the issue is that i feel african music and involvement is not promoted enough.

Er, for the thousand time, I was not in any way saying Black music was solely R n' B or Hip-Hop. I was pointing out the fact that any musicall genres of Black origins, regardless of where its from or what nations it hails from, as long as it was invented by Blacks, it is BLack music. Surely, we are just going into a cu de sac here. Yes, I would agree that African and other music of Black origins in the world is not promoted enough. The vile powers that be, rather promote the waterdown version to suit their agenda and keep music heads blind to the real thing.

I don't know why anyone would contest that unless they were being deliberately divisive, if you really knew what i was saying then you'd understand that i don't feel music history is recognised enough or taught, and people are uneducated about how most modern genres came about and their musical lingeage. I.e. back to AFRICAN music.

I am not being divisive and I explain before why I can't be. Fact is, there is a thing such as Black music/cultural arts and I will not apologise for stating this fact, nor is there anything divisive when I stated it loud and clear.

How is that a bad thing to want more acknowledgement and education for the right reasons.

And who said learning more is a bad thing then?

Seriously i really don't think you understand at all.

And I keep telling you that I do. I'm infallible remember that!

Well if you feel that way why doesn't your interest extend to educating people about the roots of modern music?

Well who asking? In the past on here one have tried to educate people, but the usual covert racist apologist 'I got a Black/mixed race friend, so I can't be a bigot' types claim that I was a racist like they claiming now that the God is practising musical apartheid, cause they hate to hear what's real as it destroyed their idea of supremacy in the way they like to porstray things in their rubbish media outlets. So now, I just love to watch them spout their half-baked idea about musical genres and they the god comes in and smash their revisionist nonsense. Besides, I only have time for those who wanna learn, not moronic narrow-minded s who love things as they are now.

She was unhappy because Amy Winehouse has addiction problems and felt Amy Winehouse didn't deserve the awards.

I concur. But the question is, since when did clean straight living becomes part of winning rubbish commercial awards? If you ask me, AW is talented and should be judge solely on her work, not her extra leisure activities

I am inclined to agree with her for that reason alone, however i dislike most of these awards ceremonies because i feel they're far too commercial.

I agreed with this sentiments. Even the MOBO awards is rubbish as well. Simply put, all these mainsteam awards are nonsense, period.

By the way, i aint your hun.

Now you simply nicpicking over words that means nothing

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Originally posted by The infamous LA:
Well, commercial appeal and mainstream mass appeal success plus financial gains often played a part in the minds of these brothers/sisters like SW when they decided not to rep the music of their ancestors in its purest form any more.

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Originally posted by Asarualim:

The fact he actually gave his album away contradicts any claim you may have that he chose to do an album in a style other than hip-hop for commercial gain.

What exactly is your objection to Williams doing music that's not in a hip-hop style? He's at least open-minded enough to be trying something different yet you seem to be criticising him for it rather than applauding the creativity he displays in tackling a different genre. I suspect you would not be as critical if he'd decided to do a reggae album for example, rather than something you consider "white" music" like Industrial.

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Originally posted by The infamous LA:

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Originally posted by Asarualim:

The fact he actually gave his album away contradicts any claim you may have that he chose to do an album in a style other than hip-hop for commercial gain.

What exactly is your objection to Williams doing music that's not in a hip-hop style? He's at least open-minded enough to be trying something different yet you seem to be criticising him for it rather than applauding the creativity he displays in tackling a different genre. I suspect you would not be as critical if he'd decided to do a reggae album for example, rather than something you consider "white" music" like Industrial.

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Originally posted by Asarualim:

The fact he actually gave his album away contradicts any claim you may have that he chose to do an album in a style other than hip-hop for commercial gain.

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Originally posted by Curls:

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Originally posted by Asarualim:

The fact he actually gave his album away contradicts any claim you may have that he chose to do an album in a style other than hip-hop for commercial gain.

It's true, there were three versions of his album. Two were of less quality and the third was only $5.
I paid the $5, you know what i'm like.