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Originally posted by Jim of the south:
ZZZZZZZZZ

Biggest load of ranting self seluded cr*p i have ever seen

Lion cub more like.

None of my views are racist otherwise they would have been removed.

so, you are trying to say that my posts\which where removed on your say so, were RACIST?

I suggest it is you who is the racist and has the problem.

Another classic trick use by your kind where you lable the victims of your vile racist agenda as the culprit, while you put yourself down as the victim of racism . Try the other one mate

How dare you even question my nationality!

Well, funy its now you suddenly claim Irish ancestry, as I have NEVER heard you say you were Irish before. You only mentioned it now as a get out jail card after you got yourself in a bit of bother with your narrow-minded views spouted.

How about i make the case that you arent even black but a bored school child???

I hate to tell you this, but you can't do that as there's friends and foes on here who can testify that his majesty is the son of Jah and I am BLACK i every sense of the word!

It is obvious from that psot that you know nothing about the Irish nor their history.
Your a joke. A sad pathetic joke of a person.

Actually, for just the fact that I know alot about Irish history, I derserved 95% scoreline out of a 100%. Now compare too you, you have NO knowledge of Black history or even Black people experience.

Your ''factual'' views are far too easily beaten.

Now do yourself a favour and Foxtrot Oscar.

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Originally posted by Jim of the south:

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Originally posted by LA the son of JAH:

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Originally posted by Jim of the south:
Be a man and have the balls to respond to my post.

I am more than a man, I am the son of Jah, Lord Atiladhun the lion. I fear no one and NEVER hide from a good debate and will battle any poster, provided they warrant my precious attention.

sO, if you look up, you will see that I have indeed replyed to your earlier post.

Mofaya!

Jah had an off day when he created you atilla.

You know very well i wont back down from you nor will i shy away from your posts.

Speaking of which what were you saying about all Police Officers being fair game for being killed....

Yes you are such a lovely person.

Mong.

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Originally posted by Jim of the south:

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Originally posted by Bobby S.:
The FTSE 100 companies have only 2.5% of their board of directors as ethnic minorities. Of this 2.5% how many are black British?
Zero percent!
Equality?

And what are the figures when it comes to highly successful (and Rich) sports persons?

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Originally posted by Bobby S.:
No idea, but I bet it ain't zero percent!

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Originally posted by LA the son of JAH:

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Originally posted by Jim of the south:

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Originally posted by Bobby S.:
The FTSE 100 companies have only 2.5% of their board of directors as ethnic minorities. Of this 2.5% how many are black British?
Zero percent!
Equality?

And what are the figures when it comes to highly successful (and Rich) sports persons?

And as usual, to show how ignorant and stereotypical you are, by bringing up the usual rubbish about sport (next you will mention rappers and musicians, l trust), cause all you think Black people are good at is sports and making music.

Black people in your mind, are not good in academic studies as far as education is concern.

Yeah, I suppose the fact that Brothers in sports are earning millions, really does get you as that one sector that your ilks need them to be part of, in order to gain sucess for club and country.

Jah have mercy, l can't believe this person is an Arsenal supporters.

Jah, only you knows what goes through Jimmy heart when he support Arsenal or when he look at our reserve team players and see the ethnic backgrounds of the kids coming through.

All I can say is, thank you Father for sending us Arsene Wenger!

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Originally posted by LA the son of JAH:

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Originally posted by Bobby S.:
No idea, but I bet it ain't zero percent!

You damn right it is.


Why don't you ask our tolerant friend Jim of the deep south, why is it that despite Black and mixed-race players having a huge presence in our sporting arena, there seem to be a huge shortages of them in our FA organization, Club managers, directors, Coaches, Admin staff, and all sectors within the sport industry that doesn't involve them using their physical strenght or sporting skills?

This guy pick the wrong day to battle his majesty, is best bet is to run too his backers on here as am killing him slowing witrh facts and facts as if he just eaten a bowl of rice lace with poison

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Originally posted by Jim of the south:

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Originally posted by LA the son of JAH:

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Originally posted by Miss Dee:


We should try not to repeat ourselves. Noone's said that black people should be stuck on the box just because they're black.

It's interesting you being Irish, because traditionally there have been several commonalities between Irish people and black people. In the UK in the 50s there was a shared experience of discrimination between the Irish and the West Indian immigrants, and there were often friendships between the two groups. I believe the same was true in the early days in the USA with Irish immigrants and African Americans. However, it seems the time came when Irish people were led to believe that such solidarity was no longer going to be beneficial to them, and they chose to cut those ties.

There's a book on the subject of the Irish and race in America. It looks like an interesting read. It's Noel Ignatiev, 'How the Irish Became White'. There's a revew of it here:
www.associatedcontent.com/article/64123/review_how_the_...became_white_by.html

There are also reviews on Amazon.

Re British TV, it should be said that there is not a great deal of difference between the TV programmes shown in the regions and in London. In the vast majority of cases, we all seem to have the same shows. Secondly, even out of the very many dramas based in London, such as Eastenders, there seems to be a relatively low number of non-white characters.

But I don't think it's just a matter of numbers on the screen. It's also about what those actors are doing when they're there. And it's also about the people working behind the screen. Who are they, and how do they represent modern Britain?

These s never fail to amaze us, do? (although hard as they try, they ain't fooling us)

Once caught out, thinking Black people are their inferior/ or that we are plain stupid, they revert to their usual trick ie revisionist lies and one of our favourite, oh, I'm not a racist, I got Black friends, oh I'm Indian/Irish/Jewish/my grand dad fought in the second WW/ I matched against Aparthied and all the usual patronising rubbish number 2 product they often throw up, once you expose them for what they are. You and I know perfectly well, what the author of this thread was pointing out when they put this topic up. It had nothing to do with simply employing Black people just because they are Black. But as usual, these vile racist s will alway twist the truth, all in a bid to avoid the real issue.

Don't waste your breathe I say, you and I plus any decent White persons on here know the score. Yeah right, next thing we might hear Nick Griffin proclaime that he ain't a racist as he is Irish or of some persecuted stock

Are you trying to say the Irish werent persecuted?? We werent called the 'blacks of Europe' for nothing you ignorant cretin!
And what about the signs ''no blacks, no dogs, no irish''?? Or were those just figments of my parents imagination??

You actually disgust me with your double standards! Oh and that ''anyone who doesnt agree with me is a racist'' tripe doesnt wash with me any more - I have lost what little respect i had for you.

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Originally posted by Miss Dee:

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Originally posted by Jim of the south:

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Originally posted by LA the son of JAH:

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Originally posted by Miss Dee:


We should try not to repeat ourselves. Noone's said that black people should be stuck on the box just because they're black.

It's interesting you being Irish, because traditionally there have been several commonalities between Irish people and black people. In the UK in the 50s there was a shared experience of discrimination between the Irish and the West Indian immigrants, and there were often friendships between the two groups. I believe the same was true in the early days in the USA with Irish immigrants and African Americans. However, it seems the time came when Irish people were led to believe that such solidarity was no longer going to be beneficial to them, and they chose to cut those ties.

There's a book on the subject of the Irish and race in America. It looks like an interesting read. It's Noel Ignatiev, 'How the Irish Became White'. There's a revew of it here:
www.associatedcontent.com/article/64123/review_how_the_...became_white_by.html

There are also reviews on Amazon.

Re British TV, it should be said that there is not a great deal of difference between the TV programmes shown in the regions and in London. In the vast majority of cases, we all seem to have the same shows. Secondly, even out of the very many dramas based in London, such as Eastenders, there seems to be a relatively low number of non-white characters.

But I don't think it's just a matter of numbers on the screen. It's also about what those actors are doing when they're there. And it's also about the people working behind the screen. Who are they, and how do they represent modern Britain?

These s never fail to amaze us, do? (although hard as they try, they ain't fooling us)

Once caught out, thinking Black people are their inferior/ or that we are plain stupid, they revert to their usual trick ie revisionist lies and one of our favourite, oh, I'm not a racist, I got Black friends, oh I'm Indian/Irish/Jewish/my grand dad fought in the second WW/ I matched against Aparthied and all the usual patronising rubbish number 2 product they often throw up, once you expose them for what they are. You and I know perfectly well, what the author of this thread was pointing out when they put this topic up. It had nothing to do with simply employing Black people just because they are Black. But as usual, these vile racist s will alway twist the truth, all in a bid to avoid the real issue.

Don't waste your breathe I say, you and I plus any decent White persons on here know the score. Yeah right, next thing we might hear Nick Griffin proclaime that he ain't a racist as he is Irish or of some persecuted stock

Are you trying to say the Irish werent persecuted?? We werent called the 'blacks of Europe' for nothing you ignorant cretin!
And what about the signs ''no blacks, no dogs, no irish''?? Or were those just figments of my parents imagination??

You actually disgust me with your double standards! Oh and that ''anyone who doesnt agree with me is a racist'' tripe doesnt wash with me any more - I have lost what little respect i had for you.

I have said in a previous thread that both black people and Irish people were subject to discrimination in the past.

As a person of Irish heritage, you should be careful before you decide that black people are talking nonsense when they state that racial prejudice still exists. People who are against racism need to listen to the concerns of people's like LA the Son of Jah and myself. Treating people like whingers and 'cretins' isn't the way to create harmony and understanding in our multicultural society.

Anti-racism needs to keep its eyes open, understand what's going on, and recognise discrimination when it rears its head. It doesn't condemn to silence people who feel that discrimination still exists.

Black people don't appreciate being told to be quiet when they raise concerns about the inequalities in our society!

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Originally posted by Jim of the south:


Neither do Irish people need to hear people dismiss their former abuses as ''revisionist lies''

Also i have never said Racial prejudice does not exist. Do you actually read what is typed?

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Originally posted by Miss Dee:

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Originally posted by Jim of the south:


Neither do Irish people need to hear people dismiss their former abuses as ''revisionist lies''

Also i have never said Racial prejudice does not exist. Do you actually read what is typed?

You will have to ask LA son of Jah exactly what he meant by 'revisionist lies'. What concerns me is the tendency to play up one form of oppression against another. It's unnecessary. If the Irish have been oppressed, that doesn't mean that the oppresssion of black people must be downplayed. It means that oppressed people should be united against the forces of oppression!

As for racial prejudice, wasn't it you who said that prejudice had nothing to do with the underrepresentation of black people on TV? You implied that good black actors would always get parts. In other words, if there are few black actors on the screen, it must be because they're not good enough. I'm not sure how I've misunderstood you!

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Originally posted by choppy:
I feel again that if Asians here can make an impact on TV as well as business and if Black Americans can go from being portrayed as servants and shoe polishers in the 1930s-1960s to being Cops, Soldiers and Presidents today, then Black people here should be able to likewise, given sufficient effort. Rather than complaning and being part of the problem, be part of the solution.