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Originally posted by Miss Dee:

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Originally posted by Bobby S.:
I can only marvel at how composed your replies are Miss Dee!
How do you manage it?

I suppose I'm just interested in understanding where views like Tarnhari's are coming from. They seem very exotic to me, and quite alien to what I read about.

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Originally posted by Stormer88:

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Originally posted by Miss Dee:

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Originally posted by Bobby S.:
I can only marvel at how composed your replies are Miss Dee!
How do you manage it?

I suppose I'm just interested in understanding where views like Tarnhari's are coming from. They seem very exotic to me, and quite alien to what I read about.

`Alien`? Perhaps if you stopped confining yourself to reading `The Guardian` and attending Trade Union conferences you will discover that there are millions of people in Britain who sympathise with Tarnhari`s views. And that figure is growing!

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Originally posted by Miss Dee:

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Originally posted by Stormer88:

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Originally posted by Miss Dee:

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Originally posted by Bobby S.:
I can only marvel at how composed your replies are Miss Dee!
How do you manage it?

I suppose I'm just interested in understanding where views like Tarnhari's are coming from. They seem very exotic to me, and quite alien to what I read about.

`Alien`? Perhaps if you stopped confining yourself to reading `The Guardian` and attending Trade Union conferences you will discover that there are millions of people in Britain who sympathise with Tarnhari`s views. And that figure is growing!

Trade Union conferences? Not really.

But I think this subject lends itself to an array of paradoxes. We're supposed to be proud of the British Empire yet we're also supposed to be against ethnic mixing and different cultures in close proximity. We want to be the masters of science and progress (the Victorians come to mind) yet we all hark back to a simpler age of country cottages and quaint rural traditions. We want to believe in community but we don't want our neighbours or even our families to get too close, and we turn our backs fearfully when we see people in need on the street. We imagine we stand for fair play and tolerance, but we don't really want people who are different from us living too near, and we don't really want our children to mix with too many of them at school.

So when Gordon Brown talks about British values or someone else talks about Englishness, I'm not sure what it means these days. Maybe it makes just as much sense as saying it all comes down to your eye colour and the thickness of your lips!

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Originally posted by Tarnhari:

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Originally posted by Bobby S.:
The fact you have never heard of the two people in question says a lot.

Beyond the narrow and particularist sphere of Black Nationalism I doubt that more than 1% of the population have heard of them!

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Originally posted by Germanist:
The British Media are also a prime example of reverse racist/plain racist hypocrisy in the way they report "race hate crimes".

If it's a 'white on black' crime, it's immediately designated as a 'racially motivated incident' and given extensive media coverage. If the victim is a white 16 year old girl, who's been abducted by five black youths and one asian illegal immigrant in Reading, then subjected to hours of torture and rape before being murdered in a park (execution style), it takes several weeks for the identity of the perpetrators to be revealed, and even then the crime is passed off by the media as a 'mere drug related incident'.

That's a sign of how the British media play host to reverse racism, in the name of political correctness and multiculturalism.

Basically they're just aiding and abetting black racism.

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Originally posted by Bobby S.:
I'll never understand why so many people on here are obsessed with being 'white' or 'black'. Your parents had you whatever colour you are; be happy!
It's not like colour is something you can take back to the shop if you are miserable about it.
Personally I would like to be black in the summer and white in the winter - due to the weather. Sadly I realised sometime ago that this was unlikely to happen.

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Originally posted by Stormer88:

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Originally posted by Miss Dee:

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Originally posted by Stormer88:

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Originally posted by Miss Dee:

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Originally posted by Bobby S.:
I can only marvel at how composed your replies are Miss Dee!
How do you manage it?

I suppose I'm just interested in understanding where views like Tarnhari's are coming from. They seem very exotic to me, and quite alien to what I read about.

`Alien`? Perhaps if you stopped confining yourself to reading `The Guardian` and attending Trade Union conferences you will discover that there are millions of people in Britain who sympathise with Tarnhari`s views. And that figure is growing!

Trade Union conferences? Not really.

But I think this subject lends itself to an array of paradoxes. We're supposed to be proud of the British Empire yet we're also supposed to be against ethnic mixing and different cultures in close proximity. We want to be the masters of science and progress (the Victorians come to mind) yet we all hark back to a simpler age of country cottages and quaint rural traditions. We want to believe in community but we don't want our neighbours or even our families to get too close, and we turn our backs fearfully when we see people in need on the street. We imagine we stand for fair play and tolerance, but we don't really want people who are different from us living too near, and we don't really want our children to mix with too many of them at school.

So when Gordon Brown talks about British values or someone else talks about Englishness, I'm not sure what it means these days. Maybe it makes just as much sense as saying it all comes down to your eye colour and the thickness of your lips!

I agree with much of what you have written.