I'm not fat, anyway, I'm voluptuous and curvy...

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Originally posted by Thewitchisback:
I think you need to do some serious study on nutrition, metabolism and genetics, Malkie.

LOL - so then answer my question - if the fat doesn't come from what goes into your mouth, then where does it come from?

what fat?

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Originally posted by Thewitchisback:
what fat?

the fat on obese people.

that's not what you said, Malkie. You used the possessive (your)... so you appeared to be talking to me personally.

Probably some people poo out more fat than others :P

Thank you for that image, Toolz... Glad I don't eat sausages - it could put me right off!

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Originally posted by Thewitchisback:
that's not what you said, Malkie. You used the possessive (your)... so you appeared to be talking to me personally.

where does 'ones' fat come from if it isn't from what goes into 'ones' mouth.

you've dodged the question 6 or 7 times now, and I absolutely know why

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Originally posted by malkie:

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Originally posted by Thewitchisback:
that's not what you said, Malkie. You used the possessive (your)... so you appeared to be talking to me personally.

where does 'ones' fat come from if it isn't from what goes into 'ones' mouth.

you've dodged the question 6 or 7 times now, and I absolutely know why

Of course a person needs to eat the food to get fat. But metabolism and hunger works together and decieves people into thinking they need more food when they actually dont. I dont think thats my problem though I eat too much because im always hungry and think i have a good metabolism anyway.

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Originally posted by malkie:

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Originally posted by Thewitchisback:
that's not what you said, Malkie. You used the possessive (your)... so you appeared to be talking to me personally.

where does 'ones' fat come from if it isn't from what goes into 'ones' mouth.

you've dodged the question 6 or 7 times now, and I absolutely know why

Why, Malkie? Pray tell...

I have a partner, who eats far more than me, eats all kinds of stuff that I don't like such as chocolate, biscuits, icecream. He has stayed as skinny as a rake all the time I have known him (over 20 years), and he does very little exercise, just the odd saunter round the golf course now and again. You're not telling me, Malkie, that, when I go to answer the phone or something, he starts doing circuits round the back garden to keep himself slim and svelte, are you?

you are not particularly bright, are you?

If you eat more than you need you gain weight.
If you eat less than you need you lose weight.

if you partner eats a lot and doesn't gain weight then he "needs" a lot of food.

if you eat a small amount, and still gain weight then you are still eating too much for your body.


*YOU*, and only *YOU* have control over what goes into your mouth, and hence the amount of fat your carry around on your frame.

It's *YOUR* responsibility to ensure that *YOU* eat less than you need if you want to lose weight, or more than you need if you want to gain weight.

It's extremely simple physiology, and I'm struggling to understand why you can't grasp this simple concept.

Tosh, Malkie. Maybe my husband just has a very inefficient metabolism, and is eating us out of house and home! Therefore, if everyone had a more efficient metabolism, we could all live on fresh air, and there would be no hunger in the world! No NHS treatment for skinny folks (that's what I say) - they're eating too much and have nothing to show for it!

You do make me laugh, Malkie, with your determination to pin everything on folks who you think eat too much. I eat very little - you're suggesting I eat even less. I can't remember the last time I had a cold, flu, stomach bug, joint or muscle problems, infectious disease, or the last time I went to the doctor. I cycle everyday and walk the dogs at least 3 miles every morning. Why should I change what would appear to be a healthy regime for me just because it offends you?

MALKIE QUOTE: if you eat a small amount, and still gain weight then you are still eating too much for your body.


Malkie, my weight has stayed virtually unchanged for nearly 20 years (where did you get this cr*p about gaining weight, and I've gone through several phases of trying different foods - meat eater, vegetarian, vegan, raw food - all with its attendant sugars, fats, etc., or lack of. And through it all, I have led an energetic lifestyle. My body seems to like the weight it is, and doesn't want to budge no matter what I throw at it. If you're going to pick people up on things, at least try and be accurate.

MALKIE QUOTE:

MALKIE QUOTE: (you can tell them, they just keep saying the same thing, more or less...)

if you partner eats a lot and doesn't gain weight then he "needs" a lot of food.

No, Malkie, it doesn't necessarily means this. It could mean:

he has a longstanding case of parasites;
he has an overactive thyroid;
he has some kind of metabolic disorder;
he has some illness which takes away any goodness he is putting into his body;
he suffers from major anxiety problems

Thin does not always equate to healthy, and the requirement to take in more food. I wouldn't like you for my doctor. "There's nothing wrong with your husband, he just "needs" more food... And thank goodness he's not overweight, and a lazy and unwilling git to boot!"

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Originally posted by malkie:
you are not particularly bright, are you?

If you eat more than you need you gain weight. if you eat a small amount, and still gain weight then you are still eating too much for your body.


*YOU*, and only *YOU* have control over what goes into your mouth, and hence the amount of fat your carry around on your frame.

It's *YOUR* responsibility to ensure that *YOU* eat less than you need if you want to lose weight, or more than you need if you want to gain weight.

It's extremely simple physiology, and I'm struggling to understand why you can't grasp this simple concept.

agreeing with you here!! **waves manically**


Seriously, how can people not understand what he's saying??

It's all about understanding the difference between your bodys need for food and your bodys desire for food.

I understand what he's saying. Despite Malkie's to the contrary, I'm not stupid. But his statement is a bit simplistic to say the least, as is his statement that thin people "need" more food. Thinness, as I have explained to him, can be caused by several different problems. One of most common reasons for people being overweight is an underactive thyroid. Malkie doesn't mention this...

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Originally posted by RiffRaff:

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Originally posted by malkie:
you are not particularly bright, are you?

If you eat more than you need you gain weight. if you eat a small amount, and still gain weight then you are still eating too much for your body.


*YOU*, and only *YOU* have control over what goes into your mouth, and hence the amount of fat your carry around on your frame.

It's *YOUR* responsibility to ensure that *YOU* eat less than you need if you want to lose weight, or more than you need if you want to gain weight.

It's extremely simple physiology, and I'm struggling to understand why you can't grasp this simple concept.

agreeing with you here!! **waves manically**


Seriously, how can people not understand what he's saying??

It's all about understanding the difference between your bodys need for food and your bodys desire for food.

Please see:

http://hcd2.bupa.co.uk/fact_sheets/html/underactive_thyroid.html

And, if you look at some of the symptoms mentioned for hypothyroidism, you will see some that Malkie no doubt would call being unwilling and lazy...

Another factor mentioned, in this simple little factsheet, for some people being overweight is as a side effect of medication. Of course, steroidal treatment also causes weight gain. But, according to Malkie, you could always just eat less when you're on this medication, never mind about your vitamin and mineral requirements, and who needs ANY calories anyway to give you energy.