Or better according to the definition I was given by Sky that as I subscribe to only 2 (£15) of the options I can't get More4, but if I subscribe to all 6 (£21) then I will definitely get it. I protested that I had the minimum subscription as More4 statements said and he replied that he would send codes through the satellite for me to receive it in anything from 2 minutes to 4 hours. I don't believe this for a moment as it was the same answer I got when ITv etc was cut out before. Ian