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Simple. What is your fav/least fav camera shot, angle or type. Just curious.

My fav is the Zoom IN/OUT. Personally nothing is more effective that a zoom IN/OUT. Then there is a PAN [it has to be wide-angled lens mind], then the tracking shot either followed or following as well as side tracking [either telephoto or wide], then the dolly IN/OUT [i do like a good dolly].

My least fav is the CHANT left/right. To corny for my liking.


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The money shot.


Chaaaaa-ching.


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I hate this recent trend for "shaky-cam" as seen in The Royal Family, The Office, etc. Can't watch it! Get a tripod for god sake!
 
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There's nothing quite like a well executed contra-zoom, or a good mirror shot.
 
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My least fav is the CHANT left/right. To corny for my liking.


Ok, berate me for missing this at Media College, not that I sing the praises of my teachers anyway, but what is the CHANT?

Oh, and my favourite camera angle/shot is a level, still shot. The ones that no one usually notices because they don't stand out. They just tell the story clearly without getting in the way.

I have noticed that movies with dull stories have really fancy camera work. Not always, but usually. Dusk Till Dawn 2 is one example. I guess the director thought "how'mi going to make this sh*t interesting?" and viola! Weird camera angles!
 
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My favourites are:
steady cam shots that follow the actors for long takes.
Wide angle shots, but not epic, just out so u can see all the actors.
My least favourite is Deliberatley shaky camera work, its a bit too wannabe realistic, especially when the acting doesn't match it.


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i like shots of legs and feet like in kill bill volume 2 and millers crossing, always looks cool. i like graphic matches alot too like in psycho with the drain/eye match. also, you can beat the old school kung-fu movie sudden zoom. as for shots i dont like...cant really think of any, but i hate getting shor/reverse shots framed properly! however, all shots can be good dependant on use. interestiong question i might add, nice to talk about film making rather than watching.


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i love dolly and crane shots i love the crane shot at the of the operning in halloween when we pull back from mr. myes holdin the knife

i really hate over shlouder shots if they are used to much they become boring and the whole scene slows down.
 
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I love the kung-fu sudden zoom too.

Plus mirror and water reflection shots.


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How do they do that shot where they zoom in on a character and the background seems to zoom out/get bigger? It's always befuddles me.


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like in jaws? i love that shot but i have no idea as to what its called or how its done......i think its a focus thing


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like in jaws? i love that shot but i have no idea as to what its called or how its done......i think its a focus thing


Allow me. It is either called a 'pull focus' 'Vertigo' or 'Dolly zoom'. I think Hitchcock used it to induce 'Vertigo' in the film of the same name. How it is done is the camera in on a track and pushed foreward to the actor, while the zoom is pulled out at the same time. Resulting in the actor staying the same size in frame, while the background has the appearence of moving away.

I still don't know what a Chant is, so anyone please enlighten me.

Reccomended reading:
Setting Up Your Shots: Great Camera Moves Every Filmmaker Should Know

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0941188736/qid=1109274963/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl/202-3131328-8198265

I thought this book is great. It's not cinematography, but it's a good over view of most camera tequniques.
 
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Thank you for that Zest.

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like in jaws? i love that shot but i have no idea as to what its called or how its done......i think its a focus thing


Allow me. It is either called a 'pull focus' 'Vertigo' or 'Dolly zoom'. I think Hitchcock used it to induce 'Vertigo' in the film of the same name. How it is done is the camera in on a track and pushed foreward to the actor, while the zoom is pulled out at the same time. Resulting in the actor staying the same size in frame, while the background has the appearence of moving away.

I still don't know what a Chant is, so anyone please enlighten me.

Reccomended reading:
Setting Up Your Shots: Great Camera Moves Every Filmmaker Should Know

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0941188736/qid=1109274963/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl/202-3131328-8198265

I thought this book is great. It's not cinematography, but it's a good over view of most camera tequniques.


Oh for fooks sake. You probably know what this shot is but haven't come across this term that all.

Have you seen LOTR:ROTK. There is that scene where that giant spider follows Frodo. So we get the shot where the spider is behind Frodo [Frodo is to the right of the screen while the spider is to the far left], and as the spider advances downwards to his prey, the camera chants to the left or right [i forget....its been a while]


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I have a question. In the movie "Poltergiest",
There is a scene where the mother is looking down the hall at the childs bedroom door and all
of a sudden the hall becomes enlongated and the
door seems a long way off. Is that a "camera shot" or a special effect or both? and How is it
done? Is it similar to the Dolly Zoom?
 
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I believe this is a standard contra-zoom shot (or dolly zoom as mentioned elsewhere) The camera begins close to the actress, but zoomed right out. As the dolly tracks back, the camera zooms in. This creates the illusion of more depth, making it look like the background is moving further away while the actress remains the same size.
 
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Zest:
Allow me. It is either called a 'pull focus' 'Vertigo' or 'Dolly zoom'. I think Hitchcock used it to induce 'Vertigo' in the film of the same name. How it is done is the camera in on a track and pushed foreward to the actor, while the zoom is pulled out at the same time. Resulting in the actor staying the same size in frame, while the background has the appearence of moving away.

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That is my favourite shot, bar none.

What i hate is this new "MTV technique" when the camera angles contantly change. It can be really effective if used at the right time and in moderation, but most of the times it just makes me dizzy.


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thanks clue Big Grin
 
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Have you seen LOTR:ROTK. There is that scene where that giant spider follows Frodo. So we get the shot where the spider is behind Frodo [Frodo is to the right of the screen while the spider is to the far left], and as the spider advances downwards to his prey, the camera chants to the left or right [i forget....its been a while]


I'll have to borrow a coppy. Is it where the camera 'Tilts' from left to right (or vice verca) to create a 'drunk' feel to the scene?
 
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Yer thats right, but its not called a tilt. A tilt is when the camara looks up or down i.e low angle or high angle.


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Some would argue that cinema isn't about "the shot" but about two or more shots juxtapositioned together to express an idea. And if an edit is about the information that is removed and not what remains, the greatest edit of all is surely in 2001. From the ape throwing the bone weapon into the air, juxtapositioned with a space station. The 'cut' is the entire history of mankind. And by cutting it Kubrick forces us to understand it so we can make the connection between the shots. Brilliant really.
the Hitchcock single shot was great too though, but one of my other favorites of his is in Psycho. The great edit of two great single shots. The blood twisting down the plughole dissolving to a twisting craning single shot of Marion Crane's lifeless eye. Those weren't easy moves for the big clunky cameras they had then
 
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This isn't an arguement about the most effective filmic devices. Its about shots, the frame, composition etc.

Stick to the subject please. Razz


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maybe I will and maybe I won't. what are you, the thread police?
 
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Wow Kieser! Just been film school, or have you just kep up with the expressions since leaving? Wink

You can always start a new thread about transitions and filmic devices. Perhaps we should have more threads about film making rather than film watching.
 
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I left four years ago. Is that 'just'? I don't know. my post was a perfectly reasonable response to the question, don't know why everyone is getting sand in their vaginas
 
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