Dalton was very good, bought a more serious angle to the charachter, the only thing was that he was not very convincing in the humour department but I suppose that fitted in with his performance.

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Goldfinger is not only the greatest James Bond film, but it is possibly one of the great fantasy films ever made. The script is brilliant and the set pieces forever iconic.

"Do you expect me to talk?"
"No, Mr Bond, I expect you to die"

The post-kill wise crack, almost compulsory in modern action films, began with Goldfinger. Ken Adams' sublime designs for Fort Knox and the Aston Martin DB5 will be part of film lore for as long as there's films. Sean Connery purrs like a panther stalking its prey and is near perfect with his characterization of the arrogant super-assassin.
Mute Oddjob with his steel rimmed bowler hat is arguably the most memorable of all the henchmen and finally the theme tune makes the hairs on the back of your neck stand up. Goldfinger is the film where all the elements come together in perfect harmony.

I would agree that Goldfinger is the best 'Bond' bond film, but From Russia With Love is the best bond film.

You're not Donald Rumsfeld are you?

having just watched Layer Cake I'd like to say that Daniel Craig wouldn't cut it as Bond. He's not up to it. It'll eat him up

Apparently according to the guardian online Daniel Craig is apparently the new bond. I am losing patience on this.

yes, i've heard he has it on a 3 picture deal, starting with Casino Royale. There's also talk of a further remake of Thunderball, which I imagine will be another rogue film. It is the story that is not owned by Eon but by Kevin Mclory who co-wrote with Ian Fleming a treatment for an early film called James Bond of the Secret Service which was shelved but Ian felming used to write the book Thunderball. It is this story which been the subject of legal wranglings since the late sixties and now Kevin McClory can re-make or sell variations of the James Bond of the Secret Service story as much as he wants, which he did with Never Say Never Again. It is in this treatment that the organization of Spectre was created along with Bond's arch nemisis Ernst Stavro Blofeld, which is why they haven't appeared in any Bond film since Diamonds are Forever excpet Never Say Never Again.

I think Daniel Craig is the perfect actor. Handsome, great actor, British and also quite young for a Bond which will fit in well with Casino Royale being the first time we encounter Bond. In the book he has only just become a 007.

im not a big fan, but goldfinger and goldeneye are v good

What's happened to the Bond movies on ITV? we were just cutting away the chaff and almost at the watchable stuff

Its ITV, what do you expect?

apparently Judi Dench has said Brosnan will return however he was quoted as saying he wouldn't.

I was reading that as well - apparantly they can't agree who will replace him so they have re-opened negotiations and he has apparantly agreed to do Casino Royale....not sure how true that is.......

'Apparently' Brosnan demanded £42 million (!!!) which is why they told him to take him a hike.

He should be paying them. He's crap. they obviously want to ditch him but there's no one else remotely upto it. Acting standards are very poor in this country at the moment. And our so called 'stars' Jude Law, Clive Own, Daniel Craig et al, are mediocre at best

Quite liked Brosnan, although in Die Another Day he looked inadequate.

I'd hardly call Daniel Craig mediocre. Not well known maybe, but neither was Sir Sean. What about Ewan McGregor, Paul Bettany et al. Mediocre? I think not!

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I'd hardly call Daniel Craig mediocre. Not well known maybe, but neither was Sir Sean. What about Ewan McGregor, Paul Bettany et al. Mediocre? I think not!

Yeah, well think again and watch Raging Bull while you do it. there are non actors in that film that are more convincing than any of those drama school ruined actors you mention. And please, don't even put Daniel Craig in the same sentence as Sean Connery as a movie actor. I've only seen Layer Cake but it was shit and so was he in it. he looks the part but he speaks and he's just another Primrose Hill luvvie. Maybe he's better in other things. I'm not very inspired to find out. But each to their own.

Watched Raging Bull last night. Whats your point mate? Do you want a James Bond who goes from the peak of physical condition to fat unstable jailbird to clubland loser or something? If so, Christian Bale may be your man seeing as he lost weight for Machinist then buffed up straight away for Batman. Fair enough, if you didn't like Layer Cake, but Craig's performance in it is mint, and if you watch his other stuff (best avoid tomb raider) you'll see he's the man. If you are judging an entire generation of British actors on one film how is that fair? I could go and watch Meet the Fockers and decide De Niro is rubbish and therefore any other Italian American Method actors are also rubbish. Bottom line is, if you don't have a wide knowledge of what you're on about how can you judge fairly. And if you check, I didnt put Daniel Craig in the same sense as Sir Sean. Although I did just then. And I still don't see how you can call Bettany mediocre. I realise some people dislike Mcgregor, but Bettany out-acted Russel Crowe in two films and has played diverse roles from Gangster No1 to Wimbledon. Maybe you should think again about your conclusions and watch some of the above films while you're at it.

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Watched Raging Bull last night. Whats your point mate? Do you want a James Bond who goes from the peak of physical condition to fat unstable jailbird to clubland loser or something?

well ,from that statement, i know there's little point in discussing screen acting with you. It's about telling the truth, naturally and simply and not sending gestures and mannerisms to the camera but acting like the camera isn't there. You can do this without putting on weight or being Italian American. I used Raging Bull as it was on TV as I was writing. There are hundreds of films where you can see good screen acting. Though not many British ones admittedly

"And if you check, I didnt put Daniel Craig in the same sense as Sir Sean."

"I'd hardly call Daniel Craig mediocre. Not well known maybe, but neither was Sir Sean."

I'm sorry, then which Sir Sean were you talking about?

Look I'm not telling anyone which actors to like as this is personal and we connect with who we connect with. I'm talking about technique. British actors have poor screen technique. They're trained for the theatre and they 'send' their performance to an audience. I don't mean they shout, I mean they 'act' like they're being watched. There is one actor emerging who does not do this. Paddy Considine.

"Maybe you should think again about your conclusions and watch some of the above films while you're at it."

I only watch good films mate. I'll leave Wimbledon to you

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So they're showing all the Bond films in order again, but interestingly, in reverse order, so the question is, at which film do you start watching? I don't think i'm coming in till Moonraker and I'll watch the rest till the end/beginning

A bit foolish of you considering you will miss some very good ones, like Tomorrow Never Dies, Licence to Kill, the Living Daylights.

having said that, Roger Moore's last 3 were utter shash.

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A bit foolish of you considering you will miss some very good ones, like Tomorrow Never Dies,

I assume you're joking

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A bit foolish of you considering you will miss some very good ones, like Tomorrow Never Dies,

I assume you're joking

I don't think he is brother, although he does have a point. Other than Tomorrow never dies, the world is not enough and The Living Daylights [Which were awful, awful films], you will miss Die Abother Day [Awful Bond film...Fantastic action flick], License to Kill [Different with some of the best action set pieces i've seen...and all stunts as well as having a very interesting concept behind it, As a reviewer says, more Lethal Weapon than Bond, and she was right, especially some of the action music], and obviously one of me Fav Bond Flicks Goldeneye.

License to Kill is fine. The rest are crap MTV videos. Moonraker till Dr No are worth watching. Goldfinger and From Russia With Love being the apex of them all. These two films are not only great Bond films, but out and out great films by any standards. IMO

Well from your statement I see there's little point discussing this with you either. "Which Sir Sean are you talking about?" Hint - this is a Bond thread. In simpler terms (just for you) I meant that Daniel Craig is not mediocre he is just relatively unknown, just as Connery was when he was first cast much to the chargrin of certain individuals.

You only watch good films? Are you seriously suggesting that Trainspotting is not a good film? That Gangster No1 is not worth watching? That the performances in Beautiful Mind are rubbish?

British films do not showcase good acting talent? What are you on? Sir Alec Guiness, Sir Larry Olivier, Ollie Reed and so on? I suppose these are yet more mediocre actors? Films like Lavender Hill Mob and Zulu aren't worth watching? And as for your comment on wimbledon, that was quite ludicrous. I used that as an illustration of Bettany's range, not an example of a good film. I think a monkey would have realised that. In fact anyone who read my post would have realised. I mentioned in it also that you haven't seen enough films to have any idea what you're talking about. The fact that you also seem to lack the ability to read/understand is also very embarassing. "Who's Sir Sean?" Love it!