Im yet another A2 student doing females in horror movies... but i wanted some ideas on how society has helped to change the conventions of women. not always the victim anymore, the villan and sometimes the hero. ideas would be great i would really appriciate it ....


thanks

I think most people have come to realise that women can be as nasty if not more so than men. They are perfect villans, scheming, evil and seductive and those are just the ones I know.

hello, i am a A2 student too, but i am studing women in action adventure film!

i think more women are the leads in horror films now and like the person said above they can be just as evil!

I guess that all you guys are doing film studies.

Both studying women in film, on the same forum & both called Holly...

I think women get more action roles in films these days to keep them from complaining about discrimination etc.

Yeah, i think it is keep the bleeding hearted femanists happy.

Yep it's producers pandering to the bra burning, sensible shoe wearing, plackard waving wingers that we have to blame!

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Both studying women in film, on the same forum & both called Holly...

yes hehe

Some films which should be central to your explorations, if they're not already, are "Haute Tension", "Baise Moi" and, especially, "Thriller: En Grym Film".

Thank you fizzwizzle, at last a voice of reason.

Thank you very much!

We all know that women’s true role in film is exemplified by the likes of Shirley Eaton in Goldfinger. They are there to look good, scream a bit and provide a hero trap for the leading man... not as in the case of more modern films to wield huge guns and knives and have the ability to drive fast thus beating hoards of baddies single-handedly.

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Originally posted by Fizzwizzle:We all know that women’s true role in film is exemplified by the likes of Shirley Eaton in Goldfinger. They are there to look good, scream a bit and provide a hero trap for the leading man... not as in the case of more modern films to wield huge guns and knives and have the ability to drive fast thus beating hoards of baddies single-handedly.

This is the view of the type of child who thinks girls are impressed by pulling the wings off a fly. Ho ho... aren't you funny, and shockingly brave. Now go and watch "Audition".

No, I'm the type of person who thinks women are not suited to leading roles in action films. Do you have a problem with films where women are portrayed as passive individuals?

Does it threaten your world to see strong women?

What is your definition of a strong woman? By my definition there have always been strong women characters in hollywood movies,for example Scarlett O'Hara, Rose Sayer (The African Queen),Ann Mitchell (Meet John Doe),Gladys Aylward (Inn Of The Sixth Happiness),Kathy Selden (Singing In The Rain),
Vicki Lester (A Star Is Born),Catherine "Cat" Ballou (Cat Ballou),Muzzy (Thoroughly Modern Millie), Calamity Jane (The Paleface. In this movie Calamity Jane is the real action hero although she falls for Bob Hope.),Lisa Carol Fremont (Rear Window. This character becomes an active investigator for the wheelchair bound male character played by James Stewart)

Granted,most of these characters are inlove with men and are pretty and wear dresses but they are still intelligent, determined and independent and I would call them strong.

Having read the opening post I have to say that Horror and Action movies never changed the publics perception about gender or about anything. The ordinary public don't take Horror and Action movies seriously; they see Horror and Action movies as mindless entertainment and switch off their brains when they watch them.

If you seriously want to talk about changing perceptions then Drama and Comedy are a much better bet.

Having reread the opening post I see that it's society's influence upon the conventions of action /horror films you're discussing. I think that money is the main influencing factor;
Hollywood executives look at who the consumer is
and what the consumer likes and just as car advertisments are now targeted towards women because more women are buying cars so hollywood has realised that theres money to be made from
women action heroes who kick ass like buffy or like the women in video games. Money is the main influencing factor and modern women are the breadwinners and movie ticket buyers and buyers of the products that hollywood movies promote.

^Also; I think that video games are the main cultural influence that has turned Hollywood Action and Horror movies around; more Teenage girls and women play video games than ever before and many video games feature women heroes;video games put the woman player in control and are thus empowering;teenage girls play video games and teenage girls are big consumers which makes them attractive to hollywood executives.

True, but it is still the case that alot of if not most gamers are guys. Also in games such as the resident evil series most of the time it is a guy who is the lead. Also games like assasins creed wouldn't look the same with female leads. Women have started a bit behind men after all, most of the great scenientist, philosphers, artists, poets, writers, polatitions, military leaders through out history have been men.

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Originally posted by Cloud Strife:
most of the great scenientist, philosphers, polatitions, through out history have been men.

...but most of the great spellers have been women.

Ok I'll let you have that one!

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Originally posted by Fizzwizzle:
Women wonder why they don't get positions of power in British industry...

Do they?

Is this the pinnacle of achievement, a 'position of power in British industry'? Possibly for you, Mr. Wizzle. I sincerely hope you make it to be the chairman of ICI when you grow up.

When I grow up!

Why was that comment i wrote the other day deleted?
There was nothing bad or nasty in it, i didn't swear.

Yep my last but one post on here was in reply to it! How rude!