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Originally posted by Jenni:
........... I'd love to see them go back to the investigation of people's back gardens because of interesting things residents have found, rather than some of the grander scale palaces etc they've looked for in recent series.

Well, they did the back garden at Buck House

"they can come and do my garden anytime..."

(now if I had a penny for every time I have been told that one ! I would have £3.24 )

i have to admit i quite like the early episodes when the team set out to respond to a specific request from a member of the public.
Ribchester and Much Wenlock being two such examples.

Have to say I have a soft spot for Ribchester... happy days in the summer ... the White and Black Bull pubs.... the glorious river.. the great fort... ah....happy days.

Perhaps a full circle back to requests. after so long, it may be just the ticket.

possibly a return to the viewer request type sites would be a good thing.
what is going on in my garden, field, allotment or whatever and then expanding to look at the bigger picture.

Find a field with suspected archaeologogy, fence it in half. A metal detectorist one side and an archaeologist the other. see who produces the most information about the site.

Too easy trees... In terms of information one would ask... at which level... working together... they would do even better.

The Dean Archaeology Group (shameless plug for a great society) has this statement on there site www.deanarchaeologicalgroup.org.uk/

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The Group has won several awards for their activities in local archaeology including the Lloyds Bank Award which enabled them to fully equip theirselves with surveying equipment, and they were joint winners of the Pitt-Rivers Award (the best work by a voluntary group or individual) in 1990. Their members too have won a number of awards, some going on to gain B.A's and Doctorships in Archaeology. Many now working professionally still keep in contact with the Group and occasionally offer articles for the Dean Archaeology.

The Group has taken a stand on Metal Detecting. Rather than ignoring them it has welcomed them into membership and taken the opportunity to teach them about flint and pottery. Now when they go out, it is a full range of artifacts they bring in - metal, flint and pottery. The older members have not been forgotten - For years a Coffee-Time club was run, and members carried out research projects on themed subjects - Field Names, Vernacular Architecture, Moated sites, Country Houses, Castle sites, and many others.

As you can see... the approach is to cooperate and find more..

So amusing as the concept might be.. the real answer would be cooperate and by doing so come up with more than operating singly

you are probably right. there would be too much damaged done on the detectorist side of the fence. stuff wrenched out of context and that that happens every weekend. probably better just let them swing over the spoil heaps as they keep banging on about only detecting disturbed areas.

You don't mess about... even if you are obviously talking from a viewpoint of someone who does not understand the full story... I expect you have been listening to half a story.

By the way... this is not a thread for this debate... its about new series of the Time Team.

I did not see a sensible suggestion there.. just a dig (pun intended) at detectorists in general. Sorry if I misunderstood your sensible suggestion that ..

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there would be too much damaged done on the detectorist side of the fence. stuff wrenched out of context and that that happens every weekend. probably better just let them swing over the spoil heaps as they keep banging on about only detecting disturbed areas.

Stuff wrenched out of context… probably better they swing over spoilheaps… banging on…

Perhaps I misunderstood your tone.. and did not see it for what it was. There is a reason I can say things.. it’s because I have taken the time, trouble, effort and willingness to do it. As it happens, it’s one of my less endearing traits.. arrogance .. but hey… I also like a good ego-popping as well. My problem only comes when I see potential bigotry… I am sure you did not mean to come over as that.. and your light-hearted suggestion was well meant.

You must have a brother..

You seem so familiar.. as usual..

The initial suggestion was met with a reasonable reply... the reply you gave to that was the one which I tookm offence to... as usual.

About 18 months ago i suggested a program on the landscape and archaeology of a parish in herefordshire called Almeley. So far there are recorded 3 castles, two moated farmsteads, a medieval/tudor manor house, a huge landscaped park with obligutary multi period grand house, two dmv,s possibly three, numerous roman pottery and coin finds but no evidance of settlement, Iron age finds, flint tools from the neolithic and bronze age, two polished stone axes. need i go on. Stuart and Mick would have a field day (mick has actually done some recording work in his youth at one of the castles). I have been investigating the parish for seven years and still keep finding many new discoveries.It would be cracking viewing for the masses(and would help me greatly).

Now being a bit of a landscape/buildings person myself… I think that’s a great idea… it is kind of like looking at a whole area… understanding it from prehistoric to present. Like I was saying about a town dig. This might be a better idea. Personally I would love to see a series that spends a bit of time on each period… how to recognise, what remains, how to research and find it. In fact… ti is very much like TimeChester..

Nice one - I would add my vote to that

Too late for 2007 series.... but perhaps worth a call to TT for a special or 2008?

What do folk think?

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Originally posted by BAJR:
Too late for 2007 series.... but perhaps worth a call to TT for a special or 2008? What do folk think?

Cracking idea, get on the phone and invite them up to Midlothian, get the MDs in on it too. Let them show what an effect the proper recording of finds from a discrete area can reveal. And the local aerial photographers and local historians and fieldwalkers. Great idea. Trouble is will they be so happy to depart from their usual format? I am sure you can persuade them.

Paul Barford

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Sad sad man

Charming.
And all based upon a blatant misrepresentation of what his suggestion actually WAS.

Charming indeed

Does anyone have any real suggestions - this thread is about suggestions for New Time Team series.. not anything to do with detecting.... that is another thread.

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Let them show what an effect the proper recording of finds from a discrete area can reveal

is only designed to make a rather pointed comment...in an attempt to divert this thread...which is sad and unfair to people who were actually enjoying this thread... myself included.

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Originally posted by BAJR:
in an attempt to divert this thread

What, with a single short posting in a thread which you have dominated with twenty?!
Some diversion attempt!!

Hardly in the same league as calling upon all users of a forum to put people nominated by YOU onto "Ignore".

How on earth would you decribe THAT by comparison?

I think you've lost the plot. But you can have your thread back now. Having you responding to me here but pretending you can't hear me over there is just too peculiar for my taste.

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Originally posted by BAJR:
is only designed to make a rather pointed comment...in an attempt to divert this thread...which is sad and unfair to people who were actually enjoying this thread... myself included.

That was the third reply on page one.

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Originally posted by BAJR:
Its a thought... you have to come up with a new angle for the TT. what would you suggest as a new idea?

Something non-intrusive, nothing dug at all. I see a site has already been suggested further up and that sounds ideal.

Which one is that.

Recently worked on a site where we jsut used Geophysics..(local group) and hope to go back with Ground Penetrating Radar... (a useful addition to the group - the person who owns it!!) but a trench or two will be needed to confirm some of the features.

So which site are you suggesting...

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Originally posted by AJ ap:

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Originally posted by BAJR:
is only designed to make a rather pointed comment...in an attempt to divert this thread...which is sad and unfair to people who were actually enjoying this thread... myself included.

That was the third reply on page one.

Yes, I am not sure what his problem is either. No "pointed" comment there at all, just going along (for once) with what the guy says and STILL he takes offence. As somebody says "peculiar".

Paul Barford

Many apologies... I assumed that a

Many apologies... I assumed that as every other post was aimed at either detecting or me this was no different.. I made the mistake of reading the post with the emphasis on “ …………get the MDs in on it too. Let them(the TT) show what an effect the proper recording of finds from a discrete area can reveal……….” And assumed ..obviously wrongly that for once this was once again about detecting – and you were trying to educate metal detectorists in where they were going wrong. Now I realise that it is the artefact hunters you would want to have educated…as metal detectorists already know.

If you have any sites in mind in Midlothian, that would suit this bill then do let me know… Or could you suggest another site where non-intrusive investigation could take place… one perhaps that you know about. I am now flattered that you think I could persuade them… perhaps I could try.
Try again



Once again… I apologise… as you said… you were – “just going along (for once) with what the guy” - it was this first show of support that threw me… So please … don’t take my sharp reply so badly… let me know more about this idea.. It does now sound like a cracker as you say… so come on mate… whats your pitch.

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Originally posted by BAJR:
If you have any sites in mind in Midlothian, .

I would not presume, you were the one who had the idea to invite them there, presumably YOU had some sort of idea what they would do once up there. I was not intending to "educate" anyone, like I thought everybody else, I was merely surmising what would make good television archaeology (or is that archaeology television?).

Anyway, I thought you had us on "ignore". either you are or you aren't.

Paul Barford