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I had a quick look at the poams website - an interesting idea but they have a lot of explaining to do. Things like light being bent by a gravitational field / the curved spacetime that Einstein predicted and was confirmed by observation to a remarkable degree of accuracy.


POAMS ANSWERS: It is amazing how many commentators think they know intuitively what POAMS means and what it proposes without reading, far lesds studying it. POAMS is theacronym for the Pope-Osborne Angular Momentum Synthesis the Synthesis. Their definitive book, Light-Speed, Gravitation and Quantum Instantaneity is available on Amazon and the thesis is also described in detail on the website www.poams.co.uk. What do these inquisitors want from us in answer to their questions and - let's face it,sometimed daft comments. Do they expect us to rewrite the book for them here every time? This book is serious science for graduates and post-graduates,not for ignoramuses to chuck sticks at. Comments from serious students will be respected and welcomed.

POAMS answer to comments below: All is revealed in the POAMS book: Light-Speed, Gravitation and Quantum Instantaneity, by A.D. Osborne and N. V. Pope, available on Amazon

Additionally to make new predictions they need to demonstrate a mathematical theory that differs from the classical Einstein GR ie not just a reformulation using a transformation that embeds 'C' someway but that predicts the same results (as that would).

So how does their mathematical theory differ? Do they disagree with the Equivalence Principle (see Wiki)?

Are they adding /removing quantities from Einsteins tensor formulation of GR? Or suggesting a tensor formulation is inappropriate? I could go on...but won't.
 
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poams.

I think you just posted a 'full quote' within a quote, so I address your content outside of the 'inner quote' (but ignore the advert).

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Additionally to make new predictions they need to demonstrate a mathematical theory that differs from the classical Einstein GR ie not just a reformulation using a transformation that embeds 'C' someway but that predicts the same results (as that would).

I'd respectfully suggest an 'unaltering' timeline. Just because any communication or observation isn't 'instant'/ 'changing speed' doesn't mean that the timeline 'alters' to 'effect' a 'true speed of light (c0)' for use as a 'constant'. There is always a 'true timeline', but this often escapes any accurate calculation.

For example, if the Sun exploded I'd have a little more than eight minutes to do all the things that I ever wanted to do in my lifetime. However, I wouldn't know that the Sun had exploded so I wouldn't try to do them. Just because I don't know that the Sun has exploded doesn't make it 'unexploded', it just means 'I don't know this yet'. The 'info' hasn't 'reached me'!

To put it more 'finely'. The 'info' may get to me a little 'quicker' or a little 'slower' if there is a change in dielectric between me and the Sun during this event, but one thing we can all be sure of is that it has 'already happened'.

I'll research your site, but it's a 'low priority' on my agenda so 'don't hold your breath'.

BTW. 'GR' embeds c0, not 'C'! You, of all posters, should realise this (though I recognise that the 'script' logic on this site is difficult to work with and is 'hostile' to a scientific 'format'). Smile

Best regards, suricat.
 
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