mufcdiver.

I've found more sources for you.
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/gistemp/do_nmap.py?ye...0&radius=250&pol=reg
This shows a persistent warming over Northern Eurasia for surface temperatures.

I'm not sure what caused this, but aerosols in the troposphere from more southerly regions may be the source of the forcing if it is caused by climate cell dispersion.

Another site here:
http://www.natice.noaa.gov/products/arctic/index.htm
Shows ice thickness with labelling in accord with the WMO symbol standard. This is all explained either on the page, or from a link on the page. A region of particular interest is here:
http://www.natice.noaa.gov/pub/West_Arctic/Hi_West/hi_W...008/currentcolor.pdf
'Hi West Arctic 2' looks like firm ice, but it's full of cracks! See the yellow lines?


Don't forget that perennial ice is laced with 'black carbon' and melts quicker with 'any' insolation (though UV travels further into it), but new ice has less 'black carbon' though permits ocean warming 'through' it. Thus, heating on both surfaces for 'new ice' (I believe more susceptible to UV from ocean heating).

Best regards, suricat.

suricat, this is hard!!! I mean really HARD!!!
I never realized what a can o' worms I'd opened when I first started this with YOU!!!
oh well 'sleep in the bed you made!!!'
I'll get back to you

mufcdiver.

You shouldn't take this personally, but on a 'message board' everyone stands alone! I didn't realise that you were trying to help in 'proving' any theory that could have evolved due to my postings. If I had realised this I'd have advised against it ('cos it's only theory). The moderators often alter posts out of true recognition in any case. I'm sorry that you feel 'let down'. LOL.

Best regards, suricat.