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quote: Originally posted by Mubbers:
If only I could post a picture of where I am...
I'm deep in the Sahara desert. We're high up; under a deep blue sky that's just turning to dusk there is an endless sea of golden red dunes stretching off beyond the horizon on all sides.
Sunset in a hour or so will be spectacular. During darkness the sky is crystal clear and the stars you can see are amazing.
If only you could see it too.
In-Salah?
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quote: Originally posted by realprimate: quote: Originally posted by Mubbers:
If only I could post a picture of where I am...
I'm deep in the Sahara desert. We're high up; under a deep blue sky that's just turning to dusk there is an endless sea of golden red dunes stretching off beyond the horizon on all sides.
Sunset in a hour or so will be spectacular. During darkness the sky is crystal clear and the stars you can see are amazing.
If only you could see it too.
In-Salah?
Further south, about 150 km east of In-Amenas
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quote: Originally posted by Seskinreay:
Yes BUT, tonight you missed Strictly Come Dancing - It Takes Two, Coronation Street and I'm a Celebrity Get Me Out of Here on the telly !!
If its so good, why not follow Lucibee's advice and enjoy it instead of spending your time on this forum?? !!
That's a bit harsh :-( Would Seskinreay really prefer it if there was no one to argue against? Mutual back-patting sessions are not fun for very long. Well while some people are watching "Corrie" other more useful individuals are ensuring the energy supply that keeps your TV's on. Anyway it might be nice to look at, but the flies out here suck!
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quote: Originally posted by Mubbers:
That's a bit harsh :-(
Would Seskinreay really prefer it if there was no one to argue against? Mutual back-patting sessions are not fun for very long.
Well while some people are watching "Corrie" other more useful individuals are ensuring the energy supply that keeps your TV's on.
Anyway it might be nice to look at, but the flies out here suck!
...suck blood? No, that's not nice. 
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quote: Originally posted by TrueSceptic: quote: Originally posted by Mubbers:
That's a bit harsh :-(
Would Seskinreay really prefer it if there was no one to argue against? Mutual back-patting sessions are not fun for very long.
Well while some people are watching "Corrie" other more useful individuals are ensuring the energy supply that keeps your TV's on.
Anyway it might be nice to look at, but the flies out here suck!
...suck blood? No, that's not nice.
Actually it was a generic "suck" as in they are unpleasant. The waste processing unit was contmainted with bleach and stopped digesting, as a result we have a nasty smell and about a million house flies!
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quote: Originally posted by Mubbers: quote: Originally posted by Seskinreay:
Yes BUT, tonight you missed Strictly Come Dancing - It Takes Two, Coronation Street and I'm a Celebrity Get Me Out of Here on the telly !!
If its so good, why not follow Lucibee's advice and enjoy it instead of spending your time on this forum?? !!
That's a bit harsh :-( Would Seskinreay really prefer it if there was no one to argue against? Mutual back-patting sessions are not fun for very long. Well while some people are watching "Corrie" other more useful individuals are ensuring the energy supply that keeps your TV's on. Anyway it might be nice to look at, but the flies out here suck!
No not harsh - its called irony. I was hoping to get you in mode and see the irony of your planting oil rigs on a "pristine" landscape that you seem on one hand to think is quite something to behold and on the other, so exultant in what your about to do to it !!
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quote: Originally posted by Seskinreay: I was hoping to get you in mode and see the irony of your planting oil rigs on a "pristine" landscape that you seem on one hand to think is quite something to behold and on the other, so exultant in what your about to do to it !!
Think they might be gas rigs. did a job for In-Salah gas but now I can't remember if it was the field or a company called In Salah Gas. Wot a memory. BTW - in 2005 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4694511.stmQUOTE A heatwave which has seen temperatures climb to 50C has claimed more than a dozen lives in Algeria. Forest fires have broken out across swathes of the country. UNQUOTE Best wrap up well then. (Sarcasm)
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quote: Originally posted by realprimate: quote: Originally posted by Seskinreay: I was hoping to get you in mode and see the irony of your planting oil rigs on a "pristine" landscape that you seem on one hand to think is quite something to behold and on the other, so exultant in what your about to do to it !!
Think they might be gas rigs. did a job for In-Salah gas but now I can't remember if it was the field or a company called In Salah Gas. Wot a memory. BTW - in 2005 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4694511.stmQUOTE A heatwave which has seen temperatures climb to 50C has claimed more than a dozen lives in Algeria. Forest fires have broken out across swathes of the country. UNQUOTE Best wrap up well then. (Sarcasm)
Did the same thing happen in Greece and sunny LA this year? A trend ?? 50 dgs - blimey, when do you get back Mubbers?
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quote: Originally posted by Seskinreay: No not harsh - its called irony.
I was hoping to get you in mode and see the irony of your planting oil rigs on a "pristine" landscape that you seem on one hand to think is quite something to behold and on the other, so exultant in what your about to do to it !!
I'd only find it ironic if I thought oil rigs were a bad thing wouldn't I? Happily though you will be pleased to know that the company I work for has a very sound environmental policy and we'll leave very little behind when we have finished. The only irony is how you can enjoy using power and all the byproducts of the petroleum industy yet complain earnestly about how the raw material for this power is extracted. That is truely ironic. But I suppose that's human nature!
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quote: Originally posted by Mubbers: quote: Originally posted by Seskinreay: No not harsh - its called irony.
I was hoping to get you in mode and see the irony of your planting oil rigs on a "pristine" landscape that you seem on one hand to think is quite something to behold and on the other, so exultant in what your about to do to it !!
I'd only find it ironic if I thought oil rigs were a bad thing wouldn't I? Happily though you will be pleased to know that the company I work for has a very sound environmental policy and we'll leave very little behind when we have finished. The only irony is how you can enjoy using power and all the byproducts of the petroleum industy yet complain earnestly about how the raw material for this power is extracted. That is truely ironic. But I suppose that's human nature!
Well I suppose I might enjoy ploughing my way through the Amsterdam Red Light District but if it was killing me I think I'd change tack and find my pleasures elsewhere.
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quote: Originally posted by Seskinreay:
Well I suppose I might enjoy ploughing my way through the Amsterdam Red Light District but if it was killing me I think I'd change tack and find my pleasures elsewhere.
I guess that by your analogy this means you will be moving (on foot) to a 3rd world country, living in a mud hut with no power and subsisting entirely off the land. This is more likley to send you to an early grave than this mythical disaster theory called AGW! Bottom line is that however the world is warming up it will not destroy the human race or the worlds ecosystem. We and it will adapt. That's human nature, that's nature <full stop>. P.S. The red light thing sounds too good to stop, so why bother?
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quote: Originally posted by Mubbers: quote: Originally posted by Seskinreay:
Well I suppose I might enjoy ploughing my way through the Amsterdam Red Light District but if it was killing me I think I'd change tack and find my pleasures elsewhere.
I guess that by your analogy this means you will be moving (on foot) to a 3rd world country, living in a mud hut with no power and subsisting entirely off the land. This is more likley to send you to an early grave than this mythical disaster theory called AGW! Bottom line is that however the world is warming up it will not destroy the human race or the worlds ecosystem. We and it will adapt. That's human nature, that's nature <full stop>. P.S. The red light thing sounds too good to stop, so why bother?
So predictable !! No - a slow but steady migration to cleaner technologies starting around about now for producing our energy and a slow but steady reversal of gobal population trends. Re RLD - yeah - i recommend the establishment on the corner of Prince Jakob Strasse !
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quote: Originally posted by Seskinreay:
So predictable !!
No - a slow but steady migration to cleaner technologies starting around about now for producing our energy and a slow but steady reversal of gobal population trends.
Re RLD - yeah - i recommend the establishment on the corner of Prince Jakob Strasse !
Predictable - yeah I know. Cleaner technolgies are being developed in the 1st world and population trends are stablein the same places. However in other areas, over which we have no control it is a different story. From a stance of "it's good to be more effcient" I hope we can improve the latter.
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quote: Originally posted by Mubbers: quote: Originally posted by Seskinreay:
So predictable !!
No - a slow but steady migration to cleaner technologies starting around about now for producing our energy and a slow but steady reversal of gobal population trends.
Re RLD - yeah - i recommend the establishment on the corner of Prince Jakob Strasse !
Predictable - yeah I know. Cleaner technolgies are being developed in the 1st world and population trends are stablein the same places. However in other areas, over which we have no control it is a different story. From a stance of "it's good to be more effcient" I hope we can improve the latter.
The US has 100mil more people than it did 34 years ago.
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quote: Originally posted by Seskinreay: quote: Originally posted by Mubbers: quote: Originally posted by Seskinreay:
So predictable !!
No - a slow but steady migration to cleaner technologies starting around about now for producing our energy and a slow but steady reversal of gobal population trends.
Re RLD - yeah - i recommend the establishment on the corner of Prince Jakob Strasse !
Predictable - yeah I know. Cleaner technolgies are being developed in the 1st world and population trends are stablein the same places. However in other areas, over which we have no control it is a different story. From a stance of "it's good to be more effcient" I hope we can improve the latter.
The US has 100mil more people than it did 34 years ago.
And by comaprisoin India & China? (In 34 years)
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Mubbers, are you saying that greater numbers of people correlates with a greater ability to adapt to changing conditions? If so, can you provide some evidence for that?
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quote: Originally posted by Mubbers: quote: Originally posted by Seskinreay: quote: Originally posted by Mubbers: quote: Originally posted by Seskinreay:
So predictable !!
No - a slow but steady migration to cleaner technologies starting around about now for producing our energy and a slow but steady reversal of gobal population trends.
Re RLD - yeah - i recommend the establishment on the corner of Prince Jakob Strasse !
Predictable - yeah I know. Cleaner technolgies are being developed in the 1st world and population trends are stablein the same places. However in other areas, over which we have no control it is a different story. From a stance of "it's good to be more effcient" I hope we can improve the latter.
The US has 100mil more people than it did 34 years ago.
And by comaprisoin India & China? (In 34 years)
Dunno but I bet its lots. Is that what you meant by population trend stabilised in the 1st world? ie growth stablised at 100m/34 years using the US as an example ? How is it sustainable? How long have we got under the BAU regime do you think? 100's 1000's 1,000,000s of years?
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quote: Originally posted by Lucibee: Mubbers, are you saying that greater numbers of people correlates with a greater ability to adapt to changing conditions? If so, can you provide some evidence for that?
Ho ho very funny, you must be barking mad. I've never said anything of the kind. Read the posts! ROFL
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quote: Originally posted by Mubbers: quote: Originally posted by Lucibee: Mubbers, are you saying that greater numbers of people correlates with a greater ability to adapt to changing conditions? If so, can you provide some evidence for that?
Ho ho very funny, you must be barking mad. I've never said anything of the kind. Read the posts! ROFL
Mubbers, your the one out there in all that heat and sand and flies !!
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quote: you must be barking mad
Quite probably! but don't tell the little cat...
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But that's the thing isn't it. Is it those who are best at adapting that are more likely to survive, or could the changing climate affect us all randomly? I presume there must be some element of natural selection playing a part - therefore, if we can expect it to get hotter, then those with darker skins and who already live in fairly harsh conditions should fare better...
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quote: Originally posted by Lucibee: But that's the thing isn't it. Is it those who are best at adapting that are more likely to survive, or could the changing climate affect us all randomly? I presume there must be some element of natural selection playing a part - therefore, if we can expect it to get hotter, then those with darker skins and who already live in fairly harsh conditions should fare better...
Your analgy is generally correct although it may not necessarily get sunnier. I think humans will simply selected for survival along economic grounds. Sad thought isn't it?
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Until economies start to collapse along anarchic grounds... Throughout history there have been uprisings against the wealthy autocrats and kleptocrats.
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